The Statistics Thread

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Our final this weekend will be our 50th final in VFL/AFL history. It will also be game number 1961.

So you're telling me that we will play our 2016th game in the 2021 Grand Final? That's 56 games away. Four more games this year, 26 next year, and another 26 in 2021. I like it!

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Bulldogs players who have played the most games from their draft class

1988 - Chris Grant, 341 games (Anthony Stevens 292)
1993 - Brad Johnson, 364 games (Adam Simpson 306)
2013 - Marcus Bontempelli, 127* games (Zach Merrett 126*)
2018 - Bailey Smith, 23* games (Walsh, Rozee and Wilkie 22 )

*games played assuming they play this week

(Jack Macrae will join Ollie Wines at 141 games as most games by a player in the national draft but both trail the rookie drafted Dane Rampe at 159 games)

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Bulldogs players with the most goals from their draft class

1988 - Chris Grant, 554 goals (Peter Sumich 514)
1993 - Brad Johnson, 558 goals (Fraser Gehrig 549)
2003 - Adam Cooney, 202 goals (Aaron Davey 174)
2012 - Jake Stringer, 223 goals (Joe Daniher 188)

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Bulldogs players with the most Brownlow votes from their draft class

1988 - Chris Grant, 112 votes (Adrian Fletcher 76)
2003 - Adam Cooney, 86 votes (David Mundy 85*)
2013 - Marcus Bontempelli 65* votes (Patrick Cripps 49*)

(Ollie Wines leads Jack Macrae 55 to 44 but that should have changed by Brownlow night)

 

[giblj]

Most goals in finals for the Bulldogs:

1. Chris Grant: 30
2. Brad Johnson: 18
3. Tory Dickson: 15
4. Jack Collins: 14
4. Paul Hudson: 14

With Tory not named for Saturday and out of contract this might be where he remains on this list. Should be remembered as a great finals player for us, having reached that mark in just five games.

 

[giblj]

Week 1 finals teams:

Average Age:
1. West Coast: 27y, 5m
2. Geelong: 26y, 7m
3. Collingwood: 26y, 2m
3. Richmond: 26y, 2m
5. GWS: 26y, 1m
6. Brisbane: 25y, 5m
7. Essendon: 25y, 2m
8. Bulldogs: 23y, 11m

Average Games:
1. West Coast: 146.5
2. Geelong: 130.0
3. Richmond: 125.4
4. Collingwood: 116.7
5. GWS: 113.9
6. Brisbane: 107.4
7. Essendon: 88.7
8. Bulldogs: 76.6

 

[dogwatch]

Week 1 finals teams:

Average Age:
1. West Coast: 27y, 5m
2. Geelong: 26y, 7m
3. Collingwood: 26y, 2m
3. Richmond: 26y, 2m
5. GWS: 26y, 1m
6. Brisbane: 25y, 5m
7. Essendon: 25y, 2m
8. Bulldogs: 23y, 11m

Average Games:
1. West Coast: 146.5
2. Geelong: 130.0
3. Richmond: 125.4
4. Collingwood: 116.7
5. GWS: 113.9
6. Brisbane: 107.4
7. Essendon: 88.7
8. Bulldogs: 76.6

That's insane.

I'd be interested in WallyStringhaus putting this into a historical context. I think he has posted some good info on this before but can't find it.

When was the last time a side won a final with that experience profile?
When was the last time a side even played a final with that experience profile?

We are coming in with something like 1663 games experience (prior to the game) which as I understand it is almost off the scale for a finalist.

 

[WallyStringhaus]

That's insane.

I'd be interested in WallyStringhaus putting this into a historical context. I think he has posted some good info on this before but can't find it.

When was the last time a side won a final with that experience profile?
When was the last time a side even played a final with that experience profile?

We are coming in with something like 1663 games experience (prior to the game) which as I understand it is almost off the scale for a finalist.

You gotta go back to the turn of the century DW...Melbourne in 2000 went into the finals with 1690 games of experience and went on to lose the GF by a massive margin.

Crows in 97 won the flag with 1534 games experience.

What we are doing in the modern era is unprecedented...

 

[giblj]

You gotta go back to the turn of the century DW...Melbourne in 2000 went into the finals with 1690 games of experience and went on to lose the GF by a massive margin.

Crows in 97 won the flag with 1534 games experience.

What we are doing in the modern era is unprecedented...

This is exactly the sort of thing I was after but didn't know where to look, terrific work. So was Adelaide in '97 the last finals team less experienced than us?

 

[worbod]

So you're telling me that we will play our 2016th game in the 2021 Grand Final? That's 56 games away. Four more games this year, 26 next year, and another 26 in 2021. I like it!

Whilst this specific achievement is no longer a possibility, we will certainly play game number 2022 in 2022.

 

[giblj]

2019 Records Roundup!

New whole season club records:
Most disposals in a season: Jack Macrae: 768 (previous record: 722 by Matthew Boyd in 2009)
Most handballs in a season: Jack Macrae: 426 (previous record: 423 by Scott West in 2006 and Daniel Cross in 2010)

New single game club records:
Most contested marks in a game: Aaron Naughton: 9 in R7 v Richmond (previous record: 7 by Chris Grant in R9 2002 v Geelong)

Whole career club records held by current players:
Most one percenters (total): Dale Morris: 1,546 (2nd: 1,077 by Brian Lake)
Most disposals (average): Jack Macrae: 28.03 (2nd: 26.49 by Terry Wallace)
Most tackles (average): Josh Dunkley: 5.77 (2nd: 5.62 by Tom Liberatore)
Most clearances (average): Tom Liberatore: 5.71 (2nd: 5.39 by Scott Wynd)
Uncontested possessions (average): Jack Macrae: 17.71 (2nd: 16.91 by Lachie Hunter)
Contested marks (average): Aaron Naughton: 1.95 (2nd: 1.58 by Liam Jones)

Spoiler: Top 10 in club records

Top 10 in whole season club records:
Most tackles in a season: 3rd Josh Dunkley: 141 (record: 173 by Tom Liberatore in 2014)
Most inside 50s in a season: 5th Marcus Bontempelli: 123 (record: 130 by Ryan Griffen in 2011)
Most clearances in a season: 9th Marcus Bontempelli: 139 (record: 183 by Tom Liberatore in 2013)
Most contested possessions in a season: 3rd Josh Dunkley: 313, 4th Jack Macrae: 309 (record: 326 by Matthew Boyd in 2011)
Most uncontested possessions in a season: =2nd Lachie Hunter & Jack Macrae: 462 (record: 514 by Lachie Hunter in 2016)
Most contested marks in a season: 2nd Aaron Naughton: 53 (record: 72 by Chris Grant in 1999)
Most one percenters in a season: 3rd Zaine Cordy: 163 (record: 193 by Jordan Roughead in 2013)
Most goal assists in a season: 2nd Jack Macrae: 25, 10th Marcus Bontempelli: 21 (record: 28 by Brad Johnson in 2009)

Top 10 in single game club records:
Most disposals in a game: =5th Jack Macrae: 45 in R20 v Brisbane (record: 47 by Jack Macrae in R8 2018 v Brisbane and Ryan Griffen in R21 2012 v Sydney)
Most handballs in a game: =6th Jack Macrae: 27 in R22 v GWS (record: 31 by Matthew Boyd in R22 2012 v Geelong)
Most tackles in a game: =3rd Josh Dunkley: 15 in R17 v Melbourne, =7th Bailey Smith: 14 in R15 v Port Adelaide (record: 19 by Tom Liberatore in R8 2016 v Melbourne)
Most contested possessions in a game: =3rd Josh Dunkley: 24 in R17 v Melbourne, =8th Josh Dunkley: 22 in R21 v Essendon and in R8 v Brisbane, =8th Tom Liberatore 22 in R3 v Gold Coast (record: 25 by Jack Macrae in R7 2018 v Gold Coast and in R9 2018 v Adelaide)

Top 10 in whole career club records (total):
Handballs: 8th Jack Macrae: 2,091 (record: 4,093 by Scott West)
Tackles: 6th Tom Liberatore: 742, 9th Jack Macrae: 682, 10th Dale Morris: 653 (record: 1,225 by Tony Liberatore)
Rebound 50s: 7th Dale Morris: 455, 10th Jason Johannisen: 387 (record: 813 by Bob Murphy)
Inside 50s: 10th Marcus Bontempelli: 590 (record: 1,091 by Brad Johnson)
Clearances: 4th Tom Liberatore: 754, 8th Marcus Bontempelli: 565, 9th Mitch Wallis: 560 (record: 1,180 by Scott West)
Contested possessions: 7th Tom Liberatore: 1,516, 8th Jack Macrae: 1,474 (record: 2,659 by Matthew Boyd)
Contested marks: 5th Dale Morris: 166, 7th Easton Wood: 141 (record: 258 by Brad Johnson)
Marks inside 50: 9th Tory Dickson: 132 (record: 489 by Brad Johnson)
One percenters: 5th Easton Wood: 630 (record: 1,546 by Dale Morris)
Goal assists: =10th Marcus Bontempelli and Jack Macrae: 91 (record: 186 by Daniel Giansiracusa)

Top 10 in whole career club records (average):
Handballs: 2nd Jack Macrae: 14.83, 4th Mitch Wallis: 12.35, 6th Tom Liberatore: 11.76, 8th Josh Dunkley: 11.24 (record: 15.09 by Daniel Cross)
Disposals: 6th Lachie Hunter: 23.88, 10th Marcus Bontempelli: 22.83 (record: 28.03 by Jack Macrae)
Hit outs: 5th Tim English: 16.90 (record: 21.31 by Will Minson)
Tackles: 2nd Tom Liberatore: 5.62, 4th Marcus Bontempelli: 4.87, 6th Jack Macrae: 4.84 (record: 5.77 by Josh Dunkley)
Rebound 50s: 2nd Hayden Crozier: 3.67, 4th Taylor Duryea: 3.50, 6th Matt Suckling: 3.16, 8th Jason Johannisen: 3.07 (record: 3.68 by Brian Lake)
Inside 50s: 2nd Marcus Bontempelli: 4.65 (record: 4.67 by Stephen Powell)
Clearances: 4th Marcus Bontempelli: 4.45, 5th Mitch Wallis: 4.21, 9th Jack Macrae: 3.81 (record: 5.71 by Tom Liberatore)
Brownlow votes: 5th Marcus Bontempelli: 0.54 (record: 0.86 by Gary Dempsey)
Contested possessions: 2nd Tom Liberatore: 11.48, 3rd Marcus Bontempelli: 10.76, 4th Jack Macrae: 10.45, 5th Mitch Wallis: 9.92, 7th Josh Dunkley: 9.27 (record: 11.81 by Scott West)
Uncontested possessions: 2nd Lachie Hunter: 16.91, 6th Matt Suckling: 14.91, 7th Jason Johannisen: 14.67, 9th Caleb Daniel: 14.35 (record: 17.71 by Jack Macrae)
Marks inside 50: 4th Fergus Greene: 2.00, 10th Sam Lloyd: 1.74 (record: 3.77 by Barry Hall)
One percenters: 2nd Fletcher Roberts: 6.63, 4th Lewis Young: 6.14, 5th Dale Morris: 6.11, 8th Zaine Cordy: 5.54 (record: 6.78 by Joel Hamling)
Goal assists: 5th Marcus Bontempelli: 0.72, 8th Bailey Smith: 0.68, 9th Will Hayes: 0.67 (record: 1.00 by Travis Cloke)

 

[Fossie 32]

2019 Records Roundup!

New whole season club records:
Most disposals in a season: Jack Macrae: 768 (previous record: 722 by Matthew Boyd in 2009)
Most handballs in a season: Jack Macrae: 426 (previous record: 423 by Scott West in 2006 and Daniel Cross in 2010)

New single game club records:
Most contested marks in a game: Aaron Naughton: 9 in R7 v Richmond (previous record: 7 by Chris Grant in R9 2002 v Geelong)
Most goal assists in a game: Bailey Smith: 5 in Elimination Final v GWS (current five way tie for the record)

Whole career club records held by current players:
Most one percenters (total): Dale Morris: 1,546 (2nd: 1,077 by Brian Lake)
Most disposals (average): Jack Macrae: 28.03 (2nd: 26.49 by Terry Wallace)
Most tackles (average): Josh Dunkley: 5.77 (2nd: 5.62 by Tom Liberatore)
Most clearances (average): Tom Liberatore: 5.71 (2nd: 5.39 by Scott Wynd)
Uncontested possessions (average): Jack Macrae: 17.71 (2nd: 16.91 by Lachie Hunter)
Contested marks (average): Aaron Naughton: 1.95 (2nd: 1.58 by Liam Jones)

Spoiler: Top 10 in club records

Top 10 in whole season club records:
Most tackles in a season: 3rd Josh Dunkley: 141 (record: 173 by Tom Liberatore in 2014)
Most inside 50s in a season: 5th Marcus Bontempelli: 123 (record: 130 by Ryan Griffen in 2011)
Most clearances in a season: 9th Marcus Bontempelli: 139 (record: 183 by Tom Liberatore in 2013)
Most contested possessions in a season: 3rd Josh Dunkley: 313, 4th Jack Macrae: 309 (record: 326 by Matthew Boyd in 2011)
Most uncontested possessions in a season: =2nd Lachie Hunter & Jack Macrae: 462 (record: 514 by Lachie Hunter in 2016)
Most contested marks in a season: 2nd Aaron Naughton: 53 (record: 72 by Chris Grant in 1999)
Most one percenters in a season: 3rd Zaine Cordy: 163 (record: 193 by Jordan Roughead in 2013)
Most goal assists in a season: 2nd Jack Macrae: 25, 10th Marcus Bontempelli: 21 (record: 28 by Brad Johnson in 2009)

Top 10 in single game club records:
Most disposals in a game: =5th Jack Macrae: 45 in R20 v Brisbane (record: 47 by Jack Macrae in R8 2018 v Brisbane and Ryan Griffen in R21 2012 v Sydney)
Most handballs in a game: =6th Jack Macrae: 27 in R22 v GWS (record: 31 by Matthew Boyd in R22 2012 v Geelong)
Most tackles in a game: =3rd Josh Dunkley: 15 in R17 v Melbourne, =7th Bailey Smith: 14 in R15 v Port Adelaide (record: 19 by Tom Liberatore in R8 2016 v Melbourne)
Most contested possessions in a game: =3rd Josh Dunkley: 24 in R17 v Melbourne, =8th Josh Dunkley: 22 in R21 v Essendon and in R8 v Brisbane, =8th Tom Liberatore 22 in R3 v Gold Coast (record: 25 by Jack Macrae in R7 2018 v Gold Coast and in R9 2018 v Adelaide)

Top 10 in whole career club records (total):
Handballs: 8th Jack Macrae: 2,091 (record: 4,093 by Scott West)
Tackles: 6th Tom Liberatore: 742, 9th Jack Macrae: 682, 10th Dale Morris: 653 (record: 1,225 by Tony Liberatore)
Rebound 50s: 7th Dale Morris: 455, 10th Jason Johannisen: 387 (record: 813 by Bob Murphy)
Inside 50s: 10th Marcus Bontempelli: 590 (record: 1,091 by Brad Johnson)
Clearances: 4th Tom Liberatore: 754, 8th Marcus Bontempelli: 565, 9th Mitch Wallis: 560 (record: 1,180 by Scott West)
Contested possessions: 7th Tom Liberatore: 1,516, 8th Jack Macrae: 1,474 (record: 2,659 by Matthew Boyd)
Contested marks: 5th Dale Morris: 166, 7th Easton Wood: 141 (record: 258 by Brad Johnson)
Marks inside 50: 9th Tory Dickson: 132 (record: 489 by Brad Johnson)
One percenters: 5th Easton Wood: 630 (record: 1,546 by Dale Morris)
Goal assists: =10th Marcus Bontempelli and Jack Macrae: 91 (record: 186 by Daniel Giansiracusa)

Top 10 in whole career club records (average):
Handballs: 2nd Jack Macrae: 14.83, 4th Mitch Wallis: 12.35, 6th Tom Liberatore: 11.76, 8th Josh Dunkley: 11.24 (record: 15.09 by Daniel Cross)
Disposals: 6th Lachie Hunter: 23.88, 10th Marcus Bontempelli: 22.83 (record: 28.03 by Jack Macrae)
Hit outs: 5th Tim English: 16.90 (record: 21.31 by Will Minson)
Tackles: 2nd Tom Liberatore: 5.62, 4th Marcus Bontempelli: 4.87, 6th Jack Macrae: 4.84 (record: 5.77 by Josh Dunkley)
Rebound 50s: 2nd Hayden Crozier: 3.67, 4th Taylor Duryea: 3.50, 6th Matt Suckling: 3.16, 8th Jason Johannisen: 3.07 (record: 3.68 by Brian Lake)
Inside 50s: 2nd Marcus Bontempelli: 4.65 (record: 4.67 by Stephen Powell)
Clearances: 4th Marcus Bontempelli: 4.45, 5th Mitch Wallis: 4.21, 9th Jack Macrae: 3.81 (record: 5.71 by Tom Liberatore)
Brownlow votes: 5th Marcus Bontempelli: 0.54 (record: 0.86 by Gary Dempsey)
Contested possessions: 2nd Tom Liberatore: 11.48, 3rd Marcus Bontempelli: 10.76, 4th Jack Macrae: 10.45, 5th Mitch Wallis: 9.92, 7th Josh Dunkley: 9.27 (record: 11.81 by Scott West)
Uncontested possessions: 2nd Lachie Hunter: 16.91, 6th Matt Suckling: 14.91, 7th Jason Johannisen: 14.67, 9th Caleb Daniel: 14.35 (record: 17.71 by Jack Macrae)
Marks inside 50: 4th Fergus Greene: 2.00, 10th Sam Lloyd: 1.74 (record: 3.77 by Barry Hall)
One percenters: 2nd Fletcher Roberts: 6.63, 4th Lewis Young: 6.14, 5th Dale Morris: 6.11, 8th Zaine Cordy: 5.54 (record: 6.78 by Joel Hamling)
Goal assists: 2nd Bailey Smith: 0.87, 6th Marcus Bontempelli: 0.72, 9th Will Hayes: 0.67 (record: 1.00 by Travis Cloke)

Hmmm excellent

 

[dogwatch]

2019 Records Roundup!
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Most goal assists in a game: Bailey Smith: 5 in Elimination Final v GWS (current five way tie for the record)

I said "wow" when I saw this one. Five goal assists in an 8 goal match is some effort.

However on reflection this looks extremely suss to me. Yes, that's what the AFL Tables website says for the EF, but the AFL Match Centre (which is frustratingly poor on this sort of thing since they "improved" it mid-season ) says the WB only had 4 GAs for the whole match. This sounds about the right number out of 8 goals. So did Bailey Smith provide all four?

Suckling kicked his from outside 50 after taking a few bounces - he got it from Dunkley but probably no GA given anyway since it was in the centre.
McLean intercepted a kick-in after a behind was scored so definitely no assist there.
English ran onto a long ball from Bont, so that should be credited to Bont.
Richards took a mark about 65m out, went back and then ran around the bloke on the mark to create the scoring opportunity - probably no assist there.
Lloyd received a handpass from West, so Rhylee should be credited with the GA there.
Schache - got a free kick for a push in the throat. No GA.
Naughton - one was a free kick off the ball and the other was a mark from a Lipinski kick, so no GA for Smith there.

Doesn't look like Bailey had ANY goal assists.

 

[giblj]

I said "wow" when I saw this one. Five goal assists in an 8 goal match is some effort.

However on reflection this looks extremely suss to me. Yes, that's what the AFL Tables website says for the EF, but the AFL Match Centre (which is frustratingly poor on this sort of thing since they "improved" it mid-season ) says the WB only had 4 GAs for the whole match. This sounds about the right number out of 8 goals. So did Bailey Smith provide all four?

Suckling kicked his from outside 50 after taking a few bounces - he got it from Dunkley but probably no GA given anyway since it was in the centre.
McLean intercepted a kick-in after a behind was scored so definitely no assist there.
English ran onto a long ball from Bont, so that should be credited to Bont.
Richards took a mark about 65m out, went back and then ran around the bloke on the mark to create the scoring opportunity - probably no assist there.
Lloyd received a handpass from West, so Rhylee should be credited with the GA there.
Schache - got a free kick for a push in the throat. No GA.
Naughton - one was a free kick off the ball and the other was a mark from a Lipinski kick, so no GA for Smith there.

Doesn't look like Bailey had ANY goal assists.

Someone's definitely stuffed up there! I missed the match and certainly steered clear of any replays so didn't really question it, good work. I'll remove it from my post and will also adjust his goal assists per game stat.

Have also messaged AFL Tables.

 

[giblj]

2019 Player Stats: Progression and Regression

Key:
Increase from last season
Decrease from last season
Equal with last season
Career high*
Career low*

*for players with 3+ years experience

Spoiler: Abbreviations

GM: Games
GL: Goals
DI: Disposals
KI: Kicks
HB: Handballs
MK: Marks
HO: Hit outs
TK: Tackles
RB: Rebound 50s
IF: Inside 50s
CL: Clearances
CP: Contested possessions
UP: Uncontested possessions
CM: Contested marks
MI: Marks inside forward 50
1%: One percenters
GA: Goal assists

#1 Matt Suckling
GM 19, GL 10, DI 20.89, KI 15.58, HB 5.32, MK 5.47, TK 2.00, RB 3.47, IF 2.84, CL 0.32, CP 4.42, UP 12.95, CM 0.16, MI 0.42, 1% 1.42, GA 0.47

#2 Lewis Young
GM 5, GL 0, DI 12.20, KI 9.40, HB 2.80, MK 4.20, TK 0.80, RB 3.60, IF 1.00, CL 0.20, CP 6.00, UP 6.00, CM 0.60, MI 0.00, 1% 6.80, GA 0.00

#3 Mitch Wallis
GM 10, GL 8, DI 21.80, KI 9.90, HB 11.90, MK 3.60, TK 2.70, RB 0.80, IF 4.00, CL 4.40, CP 8.90, UP 13.90, CM 0.30, MI 0.90, 1% 1.20, GA 0.20

#4 Marcus Bontempelli
GM 23, GL 15, DI 26.35, KI 15.09, HB 11.26, MK 4.09, TK 5.04, RB 2.00, IF 5.35, CL 6.04, CP 12.48, UP 14.70, CM 0.87, MI 0.83, 1% 2.04, GA 0.91

#5 Josh Dunkley
GM 23, GL 11, DI 28.30, KI 13.35, HB 14.96, MK 4.13, TK 6.13, RB 1.22, IF 3.70, CL 5.22, CP 13.61, UP 14.65, CM 0.35, MI 0.65, 1% 2.26, GA 0.57

#6 Bailey Smith
GM 23, GL 11, DI 17.65, KI 8.00, HB 9.65, MK 2.52, TK 4.04, RB 0.83, IF 2.78, CL 2.48, CP 7.09, UP 11.13, CM 0.00, MI 0.09, 1% 0.70, GA 0.68

#7 Lachie Hunter
GM 23, GL 5, DI 26.57, KI 14.43, HB 12.13, MK 6.52, TK 2.30, RB 1.74, IF 4.48, CL 2.13, CP 6.17, UP 20.09, CM 0.17, MI 0.39, 1% 1.87, GA 0.39

#8 Jackson Trengove
GM 16, GL 1, DI 12.56, KI 7.56, HB 5.00, MK 3.88, HO 6.00, TK 2.44, RB 1.94, IF 1.00, CL 1.19, CP 5.06, UP 7.00, CM 0.56, MI 0.06, 1% 5.44, GA 0.13

#9 Hayden Crozier
GM 22, GL 0, DI 16.59, KI 11.68, HB 4.91, MK 6.18, TK 2.00, RB 3.27, IF 1.86, CL 0.23, CP 4.64, UP 11.45, CM 0.73, MI 0.09, 1% 3.95, GA 0.14

#10 Easton Wood
GM 23, GL 0, DI 11.61, KI 7.61, HB 4.00, MK 4.35, TK 1.35, RB 2.17, IF 0.83, CL 0.22, CP 4.35, UP 7.52, CM 0.57, MI 0.00, 1% 6.00, GA 0.22

#11 Jack Macrae
GM 23, GL 5, DI 33.39, KI 14.87, HB 18.52, MK 4.39, TK 5.17, RB 1.35, IF 4.17, CL 5.17, CP 13.43, UP 20.09, CM 0.13, MI 0.09, 1% 1.35, GA 1.09

#12 Zaine Cordy
GM 23, GL 0, DI 9.74, KI 5.61, HB 4.13, MK 3.13, HO 0.87, TK 1.74, RB 1.70, IF 0.48, CL 0.35, CP 3.74, UP 6.17, CM 0.26, MI 0.04, 1% 7.09, GA 0.13

#13 Josh Schache
GM 14, GL 24, DI 10.07, KI 6.14, HB 3.93, MK 2.64, HO 1.36, TK 1.79, RB 0.14, IF 2.07, CL 0.86, CP 4.57, UP 5.14, CM 0.36, MI 1.21, 1% 1.21, GA 0.36

#14 Rhylee West
GM 3, GL 2, DI 12.67, KI 5.33, HB 7.33, MK 2.33, TK 1.00, RB 0.33, IF 1.67, CL 0.33, CP 7.33, UP 5.00, CM 0.67, MI 0.00, 1% 1.33, GA 0.33

#15 Taylor Duryea
GM 14, GL 2, DI 18.93, KI 13.79, HB 5.14, MK 5.86, TK 2.00, RB 3.50, IF 2.43, CL 0.43, CP 4.93, UP 12.93, CM 0.64, MI 0.00, 1% 3.21, GA 0.57

#16 Toby McLean
GM 19, GL 14, DI 15.68, KI 7.47, HB 8.21, MK 3.79, TK 3.26, RB 0.21, IF 2.42, CL 0.95, CP 5.74, UP 10.42, CM 0.21, MI 0.84, 1% 1.53, GA 0.53

#20 Ed Richards
GM 20, GL 9, DI 11.65, KI 6.90, HB 4.75, MK 2.80, TK 2.35, RB 0.60, IF 2.35, CL 0.45, CP 4.30, UP 7.30, CM 0.10, MI 0.30, 1% 1.45, GA 0.50

#21 Tom Liberatore (comparing with 2017)
GM 15, GL 6, DI 20.93, KI 9.27, HB 11.67, MK 2.73, TK 3.93, RB 0.67, IF 3.27, CL 5.27, CP 10.27, UP 10.60, CM 0.13, MI 0.13, 1% 1.33, GA 0.27

#22 Sam Lloyd
GM 23, GL 38, DI 15.39, KI 10.87, HB 4.52, MK 5.17, TK 2.35, RB 0.65, IF 2.65, CL 0.65, CP 5.22, UP 10.13, CM 0.70, MI 1.74, 1% 0.78, GA 0.61

#26 Billy Gowers
GM 10, GL 13, DI 8.90, KI 5.60, HB 3.30, MK 3.00, TK 1.30, RB 0.00, IF 1.20, CL 0.30, CP 4.50, UP 4.80, CM 0.90, MI 1.80, 1% 1.20, GA 0.30

#27 Pat Lipinski
GM 14, GL 11, DI 21.93, KI 9.79, HB 12.14, MK 4.64, TK 3.57, RB 0.86, IF 2.79, CL 2.43, CP 6.21, UP 15.86, CM 0.00, MI 0.64, 1% 1.21, GA 0.93

#29 Tory Dickson
GM 17, GL 24, DI 11.47, KI 6.41, HB 5.06, MK 3.53, TK 2.41, RB 0.47, IF 1.35, CL 0.29, CP 4.47, UP 6.82, CM 0.41, MI 1.29, 1% 0.94, GA 0.41

#31 Bailey Dale
GM 10, GL 21, DI 12.70, KI 7.70, HB 5.00, MK 3.90, TK 1.90, RB 0.10, IF 1.90, CL 0.30, CP 4.30, UP 8.40, CM 0.30, MI 1.90, 1% 0.60, GA 0.40

#32 Will Hayes
GM 9, GL 4, DI 15.56, KI 8.56, HB 7.00, MK 4.00, TK 3.33, RB 1.22, IF 2.56, CL 0.89, CP 5.00, UP 10.44, CM 0.11, MI 0.44, 1% 0.89, GA 0.67

#33 Aaron Naughton
GM 23, GL 32, DI 10.87, KI 7.39, HB 3.48, MK 5.74, HO 0.87, TK 1.83, RB 0.22, IF 2.09, CL 0.13, CP 5.65, UP 5.30, CM 2.30, MI 2.00, 1% 2.26, GA 0.43

#34 Bailey Williams
GM 9, GL 0, DI 15.33, KI 11.00, HB 4.33, MK 4.56, TK 2.22, RB 2.67, IF 1.44, CL 0.44, CP 3.78, UP 11.44, CM 0.33, MI 0.00, 1% 1.89, GA 0.22

#35 Caleb Daniel
GM 17, GL 1, DI 26.53, KI 17.29, HB 9.24, MK 3.94, TK 3.12, RB 5.94, IF 2.12, CL 1.00, CP 6.41, UP 15.59, CM 0.18, MI 0.00, 1% 2.41, GA 0.12

#37 Roarke Smith
GM 5, GL 4, DI 11.80, KI 7.00, HB 4.80, MK 2.60, TK 2.40, RB 1.00, IF 1.60, CL 0.80, CP 4.80, UP 7.00, CM 0.00, MI 0.80, 1% 2.60, GA 0.20

#39 Jason Johannisen
GM 20, GL 6, DI 21.85, KI 14.25, HB 7.60, MK 4.15, TK 2.20, RB 3.40, IF 3.60, CL 0.50, CP 4.65, UP 14.55, CM 0.25, MI 0.35, 1% 0.85, GA 0.80

#40 Lachie Young
GM 6, GL 0, DI 11.00, KI 6.67, HB 4.33, MK 4.00, TK 1.67, RB 2.33, IF 1.17, CL 0.17, CP 2.50, UP 8.50, CM 0.33, MI 0.00, 1% 4.83, GA 0.33

#43 Ryan Gardner
GM 2, GL 2, DI 6.00, KI 2.00, HB 4.00, MK 1.00, HO 2.00, TK 0.50, RB 0.00, IF 0.50, CL 0.50, CP 3.00, UP 3.00, CM 0.00, MI 0.50, 1% 3.00, GA 0.00

#44 Tim English
GM 20, GL 8, DI 13.20, KI 6.75, HB 6.45, MK 4.05, HO 19.10, TK 3.40, RB 0.55, IF 2.20, CL 2.10, CP 5.90, UP 7.70, CM 1.05, MI 0.65, 1% 5.00, GA 0.20

Most green: Tory Dickson (13)
Most red: Billy Gowers (13)
Most blue: Tim English (13)
Most orange: Bailey Williams (5)

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Pencil Tim English down for most blue for the next few seasons. The guy is going to get better every week.

Great work again giblj

 

[weltschmerz]

Bunch of interesting stats just went up on the Dogs website https://westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-09-16/season-review-stats-leaders

 

[NBates]

The Data Game: The young Bulldog who is 'up there with Nat Fyfe'

The Data Game: The young Bulldog who is 'up there with Nat Fyfe'

The rare combination of skills that puts a Dog up there with the best, and why his form is sustainable

www.afl.com.au

 

[X_box_X]

Ted Whitten was born on the 27th of July 1933. He died on the 17th of August 1995. He lived for 22,666 days.

The Bulldogs won their second premiership on the 1st of October 2016. Exactly 22,666 days before this, on the 11th of September 1954, the Bulldogs kicked off their 1954 finals campaign by defeating Geelong, which would ultimately result in the Club's first premiership.

 

[dogwatch]

Ted Whitten was born on the 27th of July 1933. He died on the 17th of August 1995. He lived for 22,666 days.

The Bulldogs won their second premiership on the 1st of October 2016. Exactly 22,666 days before this, on the 11th of September 1954, the Bulldogs kicked off their 1954 finals campaign by defeating Geelong, which would ultimately result in the Club's first premiership.

Congrats ... surely the most obscure stat yet!

 

[worbod]

I was remembering our 88 point thrashing of Hawthorn from 2009 the other day, and began wondering about our biggest victories against any reigning premier, and how often we had achieved this feat overall. I ended up uncovering a lot more instances than I anticipated, but I suppose that is a good thing.

Season	Reigning premier	round	venue	winning margin
1932	Geelong	10	Western Oval	1
1933	Richmond	3	Western Oval	16
1941	Melbourne	6	Western Oval	28
1942	Melbourne	11	Punt Road	31
1943	Essendon	5	Windy Hill	8
	Essendon	15	Western Oval	13
1945	Fitzroy	3	Brunswick Street	17
1947	Essendon	2	Western Oval	14
1948	Carlton	4	Princes Park	2
1949	Melbourne	14	Western Oval	2
1956	Melbourne	14	M.C.G.	13
1961	Melbourne	prelim	M.C.G.	27
1962	Hawthorn	1	Western Oval	33
	Hawthorn	12	Glenferrie	18
1965	Melbourne	18	M.C.G.	3
1970	Richmond	22	Western Oval	10
1973	Carlton	21	Western Oval	9
1974	Richmond	22	Western Oval	7
1975	Richmond	4	Western Oval	66
1978	North Melbourne	12	Arden Street	30
1979	Hawthorn	11	Princes Park	1
1983	Carlton	2	Western Oval	17
1985	Essendon	5	Western Oval	41
1986	Essendon	14	Windy Hill	29
1987	Hawthorn	4	Western Oval	41
1990	Hawthorn	13	Waverley	18
1992	Hawthorn	11	Western Oval	34
1993	West Coast	21	Western Oval	42
1994	Essendon	12	Waverley	28
1995	West Coast	15	Subiaco	26
1997	North Melbourne	9	M.C.G.	32
1998	Adelaide	11	Princes Park	67
1999	Adelaide	1	Football Park	13
	Adelaide	16	M.C.G.	2
2000	North Melbourne	15	Docklands	4
2009	Hawthorn	14	Docklands	88
2016	Hawthorn	2nd semi	M.C.G.	23

 

[dogwatch]

After Round 2 of 2020 here is the Hit Outs ladder. We are simply not competitive.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]Team[/TD][TD]HO[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Collingwood[/TD][TD]

81​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]North Melbourne[/TD][TD]

79​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]St Kilda[/TD][TD]

75​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]West Coast[/TD][TD]

74​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Port Adelaide[/TD][TD]

72​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sydney[/TD][TD]

68​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GWS Giants[/TD][TD]

67​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Richmond[/TD][TD]

65​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hawthorn[/TD][TD]

65​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Adelaide[/TD][TD]

64​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gold Coast[/TD][TD]

62​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Geelong[/TD][TD]

61​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Essendon[/TD][TD]

60​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brisbane Lions[/TD][TD]

60​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Melbourne[/TD][TD]

53​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carlton[/TD][TD]

52​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fremantle[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Western Bulldogs[/TD][TD]

27​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[dogwatch]

However it's not all doom and gloom. We are second in the Handballs ladder, while GWS are last.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]Team[/TD][TD]H[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Collingwood[/TD][TD]

308​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Western Bulldogs[/TD][TD]

295​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Essendon[/TD][TD]

281​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Port Adelaide[/TD][TD]

276​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Melbourne[/TD][TD]

275​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]North Melbourne[/TD][TD]

266​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]St Kilda[/TD][TD]

265​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gold Coast[/TD][TD]

253​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fremantle[/TD][TD]

245​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Geelong[/TD][TD]

237​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sydney[/TD][TD]

236​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brisbane Lions[/TD][TD]

230​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Adelaide[/TD][TD]

229​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Richmond[/TD][TD]

226​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hawthorn[/TD][TD]

215​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]West Coast[/TD][TD]

212​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carlton[/TD][TD]

210​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]GWS Giants[/TD][TD]

208​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

We can handball them to death.

 

[Virgin Dog]

I've been self-teaching R, and one of the many things I've done is explored the AFL equivalent of a "Triple Double". Unfortunately, data pre-AFL era is extremely unreliable, with many metrics like tackles, inside 50s and clearances not being recorded, so it's tough to say whether there's been any further occurrences prior to these ones below. For example, in 1971 Round 7, John Greening is recorded as having 16 marks and 50 disposals, but nothing else. Could very well have been a game that should be included here.

I started with looking at minimum of 10 Marks, Tackles, Inside_50s or Clearances. There's been 4 cases of a "Triple Double" using this definition.

• Patrick Dangerfield, 2016 Round 12 - 13 Marks, 11 Inside 50s, 13 Clearances (from 48 disposals) - this one stood out ahead of all others given that Dangerfield also kicked 2 goals, had 12 Score Involvements and a whopping 1025 metres gained.
• Dayne Zorko, 2019 Round 7 - 11 Tackles, 11 Inside 50s, 11 Clearances (from 29 disposals)
• Andrew Swallow, 2012 Round 8 - 12 Tackles, 10 Inside 50s, 10 Clearances (from 28 disposals)
• Chris Judd, 2011 Round 15 - 10 Tackles, 10 Inside 50s, 11 Clearances (from 31 disposals)

Gary Ablett Jr also came incredibly close to this group, while having a game arguably as good as Dangerfield's. In 2017 Round 6, he had 45 Disposals, 18 Clearances (4th highest all time), 10 Inside 50s and 9 Tackles. Along with this, he kicked a Goal, had 14 Score Involvements, 3 Goal Assists and 618 Metres Gained, all with little support from his team in a loss.

Not many cases, telling me the requirements are probably a little too strict. If we brought disposals numbers into the discussion, requiring anything over 30 Disposals plus 10 in other categories, we get 132 cases. The standout players being:

• Tom Rockliff with 9 times
• Dayne Zorko and Patrick Dangerfield with 5 times each
• Nathan Buckley with 4 times
• Chris Judd, Gary Ablett, Leigh Montagna, Sam Mitchell, Scott Pendelbury, Scott Thompson, Shane Tuck and Tom Liberatore with 3 times each
• 20 more players on 2 times each. Current players are Adam Treloar, Callan Ward, Clayton Oliver, Dan Hannebery, Dustin Martin, Jack Steven, Jaeger O'Meara, Josh Kelly, Luke Shuey and Patrick Cripps.

Obviously the 2020 season makes it harder than ever to generate a "Triple Double" given the shorter quarters, but the closest efforts so far are probably Rory Laird in 2020 Round 11 - 5 Marks, 9 Tackles, 6 Inside 50s, 10 Clearances from 37 disposals, as well as Marcus Bontempelli in Round 12 - 6 marks, 9 tackles, 6 inside 50s and 12 clearances from 33 Disposals. Bont also managed, in Round 17, an impressive 8 marks, 6 tackles, 8 inside 50s and 11 clearances from 28 disposals.

 

[BEaston]

I've been self-teaching R, and one of the many things I've done is explored the AFL equivalent of a "Triple Double". Unfortunately, data pre-AFL era is extremely unreliable, with many metrics like tackles, inside 50s and clearances not being recorded, so it's tough to say whether there's been any further occurrences prior to these ones below. For example, in 1971 Round 7, John Greening is recorded as having 16 marks and 50 disposals, but nothing else. Could very well have been a game that should be included here.

I started with looking at minimum of 10 Marks, Tackles, Inside_50s or Clearances. There's been 4 cases of a "Triple Double" using this definition.

• Patrick Dangerfield, 2016 Round 12 - 13 Marks, 11 Inside 50s, 13 Clearances (from 48 disposals) - this one stood out ahead of all others given that Dangerfield also kicked 2 goals, had 12 Score Involvements and a whopping 1025 metres gained.
• Dayne Zorko, 2019 Round 7 - 11 Tackles, 11 Inside 50s, 11 Clearances (from 29 disposals)
• Andrew Swallow, 2012 Round 8 - 12 Tackles, 10 Inside 50s, 10 Clearances (from 28 disposals)
• Chris Judd, 2011 Round 15 - 10 Tackles, 10 Inside 50s, 11 Clearances (from 31 disposals)

Gary Ablett Jr also came incredibly close to this group, while having a game arguably as good as Dangerfield's. In 2017 Round 6, he had 45 Disposals, 18 Clearances (4th highest all time), 10 Inside 50s and 9 Tackles. Along with this, he kicked a Goal, had 14 Score Involvements, 3 Goal Assists and 618 Metres Gained, all with little support from his team in a loss.

Not many cases, telling me the requirements are probably a little too strict. If we brought disposals numbers into the discussion, requiring anything over 30 Disposals plus 10 in other categories, we get 132 cases. The standout players being:

• Tom Rockliff with 9 times
• Dayne Zorko and Patrick Dangerfield with 5 times each
• Nathan Buckley with 4 times
• Chris Judd, Gary Ablett, Leigh Montagna, Sam Mitchell, Scott Pendelbury, Scott Thompson, Shane Tuck and Tom Liberatore with 3 times each
• 20 more players on 2 times each. Current players are Adam Treloar, Callan Ward, Clayton Oliver, Dan Hannebery, Dustin Martin, Jack Steven, Jaeger O'Meara, Josh Kelly, Luke Shuey and Patrick Cripps.

Obviously the 2020 season makes it harder than ever to generate a "Triple Double" given the shorter quarters, but the closest efforts so far are probably Rory Laird in 2020 Round 11 - 5 Marks, 9 Tackles, 6 Inside 50s, 10 Clearances from 37 disposals, as well as Marcus Bontempelli in Round 12 - 6 marks, 9 tackles, 6 inside 50s and 12 clearances from 33 Disposals. Bont also managed, in Round 17, an impressive 8 marks, 6 tackles, 8 inside 50s and 11 clearances from 28 disposals.

Cool, how you finding learning r? It's on my list of things to learn... maybe some day haha. It can do some pretty powerful stuff.

In a similar vein, they've been tracking a quadruple double on the main board for some time: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/quadruple-double.364431

That one is based on kicks, handballs, marks and tackles. I'm not sure exactly how many have managed it, but there's not many. I think Dunkley is our best bet currently. Daniel Cross used to be decent at them as a good marking inside mid.