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Okay, this is gonna be one of those long opinion based posts so if your not in the mood then click the BACK button. Its friday afternoon and I have sweet FA to do at work so here it goes

My team for next year is

B Slattery Michael Ryder

HB NLM Fletcher Dempsey

C Jetta Watson Lovett

HF McPhee Gumbleton McVeigh

F Lloyd Lucas Davey

R Hille Stanton Winderlich

INT: Nash, Bradley, Hislop, Monfries

EMERG: Dyson Reimers, Houli, Welsh


BACKLINE

FB – Mal Michael

- Thought he was good this year. Killed a lot of contests where the opposition would usually mark inside 50. Freed up Fletch heaps too. If we can minimise the amount of opposition inside 50's I think he can have a good year.


CHB – Dustin Fletcher

- Gotta love Fletch. If he can another year like this with more midfield support, could have a huge year

BP (3rd Tall Defender) – Paddy Ryder

- Keep him as Tall defender, his poise is exactly what we need down there. He also has the ability to kill a contest before anyone can get first hands to the ball with his amazing leap. He could probably do ruckwork in the backline.


HBF (Rebounding Flanker) – Nathan Lovett-Murray

- Is developing nicely. Think he should take McPhee’s role off half back. Has great athleticism and will be a good match up on most. Plays his best footy rebounding from half back. Wouldn’t mind him working on his engine and going into the midfield in spurts.


BP (Small Forward Tagger) – Henry Slattery

- Took his game up a notch this year. I think he will keep progressing. Reckon that he needs to work on finding the footy when we have the ball, creating run from behind. My first choice as small defender.

HBF (Rebounding Flanker) – Courtenay Dempsey

- Now Im sure this will be disputed. I think we all can agree Demps has unlimited potential and obviously he needs to get his body right. He may not have the body to play 22 games, but if he gets his body right, I’d like to see him coming off half back, creating run from defence, similar to how Port used Peter Burgoyne this year.

ROTATIONS/OTHER OPTIONS

Jay Nash

- Unlucky not to be a starter, but definitely in the best 22. Could go into the midfield too, dunno what his engine is like.

Kyle Reimers

- Has looked very good. Eventually should break into the side.

Adam Ramanauskas

- Not sure where Rama is at, but I think he could be at very least a good depth player.

Andrew Lee

- Needs to show something next year or is gone IMO


Ruck – David Hille

- Hot and Cold. His best is amazing, the rest is average at best, if not pathetic. Hopefully a new coach can motivate him to reach a level of consistency, similar to that of Hamish McIntosh this year. Needs to lift his workrate.

Ruck Rover – Jason Winderlich

- Dunno if he can start in the middle, but makes great decisions with the ball, has blitzering pace and is one of the leaders on the team now. Needs to step up even more.


Rover – Brent Stanton

- Expect him to take it up another notch and hopefully become an elite midfielder. Needs to lift his workrate running the other way and be less of a front runner.

Centre (Inside Midfielder) Jobe Watson

- Jobe has awareness that you can't teach. Needs to train himself to run without the football especially the other way. Needs to drop back more and help out the defence and also push forward and create an option. Obviously his kicking needs to become more natural too.



Wing – Andrew Lovett

- Is maturing as a player. Needs to play the majority through the midfield in a role similar to Danyle Pearce. We need that breaking the line ability and I think his set for his best season yet.

Wing – Leroy Jetta

- Same deal as Lovett. Obviously needs to get his body right and probably wont play a full season, but his the type of player that will make an impact when on the field. Has a bit of work to do but if the new coach can get him motivated and he can get his body right anything is possible.

ROTATIONS/OTHER OPTIONS

Jason Laycock

- Impressed me a lot this season. Still a lot of faults, but on the improve. He should split the ruck 50/50 with Hille, going forward sometimes. Hopefully he can take it up a notch.

Ricky Dyson

- Definitely think we should keep him and give him plenty of opportunity. Needs to do more I agree, but I think he can become a very good player. His getting to the right age and will know his playing for his career. Needs to just keep backing himself and should be a major part of our midfield. I think he will make it.


Angus Monfries

- His courage is unparallel but needs to become more of a team player when he has the ball. Should move into the midfield next season and hopefully he can continue to shine. More often than not he will be first to the ball and will put his body on the line.

Tom Hislop

- Should see a bit of game time next year. Will also be a big proponent of our midfield. Type of player the new coach will love.

Bachar Houli

- Has been impressive, has a bit to work on, but will be the outside midfielder/winger that we need. Has great workrate, which is something we have lacked. Hopefully he can step it up a gear and earn a spot in the side.


Full Forward (leading down the middle) – Scott Lucas

- Let him play Full Forward with Lloydy next to him. Too often this year we kicked the ball to no target. Lets leave Lloyd and Lucas there and see what they can do. No need to have either leading up the ground.


Forward Pocket (leads to the left) – Matthew Lloyd

- Not the player he was but can still make an impact. Keep him inside 50 and make opposition defences sweat, forcing them to drop numbers back giving our other forwards the opportunity.

Forward Pocket (small forward) – Alwyn Davey

- Keep this guy at their feet. We know what he can do. If he improves, even better!

Centre Half Forward – Scott Gumbleton

- Probably not ready for a full season in the toughest positon on the ground, but can already tell his workrate and athleticsm gives us that lead up CHF we’ve been needing. Keeps his feet in a contest and offers great 2nd and 3rd efforts. Rotate him with Keps at CHF.

Half Forward Flank – Adam McPhee

- Keep him away from the backline unless there is a good matchup. Has been good as a leadup half forward where he doesn’t have to worry about anyone, let them worry about him. Think he could have an amazing season at half forward.


Half Forward Flank (Tagging rebounding defender) – Mark McVeigh

- Awesome season. Incredibly consistent. Let him play half forward, he does everything right. Leads well, uses the ball well, can take a mark, great defensive pressure. That’s his spot I think with runs through the midfield.

ROTATIONS/OTHER OPTIONS

Andrew Welsh

-I know his in most peoples best 22, but I prefer all the others before him. He does a lot of great stuff, but will never be a player the opposition worries about. Still should get quite a few games and will, just prefer all the others ahead of him.

Kepler Bradley (should rotate with Gumby)

- Hopefully the new coach keeps him and gets him motivated. Should rotate off the bench with Gumby at CHF, HFF. I think he will make a huge impact playing there. Take the shackles off and let him be the player that he can be.

Jay Neagle

- Dunno how many games he will see, but surely if Lloyd, Lucas, Gumby or Keps miss games, he’d be ahead of Johns to come in. His getting to the age where he could start making an impact. Wouldn’t mind seeing how he went playing down back as the 3rd defender if Paddy goes into the ruck.

Courtney Johns

- Dunno about him anymore. I wonder if a new coach can get any more out of him. My main criticism was when Sheeds played him as a forward he was leading up the ground rather than in the goalsquare. Think if his gonna play, needs to be left one out leading out of the square. If we can get something out of trading him, perhaps a quality Adam Selwood type, it would be worth it, but I doubt we will

RETIRE

James Hird

- Thank you very much

Scott Camporeale

- It was worth a shot

DELIST

Chris Heffernan

- You’ll always have that premiership medallion and probably should have got a Norm Smith

Mark Bolton

- You’ve been a great servant, but the time has come

Richard Cole

- Still think he has potential, but we can’t justify keeping him. Needs to go prove himself elsewhere

Damian Peverill

- True battler, gave his all, but not up to it.

Jason Johnson (hopefully retires)

- Dunno if he will, though I think the game has passed him by. If we keep him it should be as a depth/impact player at best. No way should he start in our midfield.

TRADE

Mark Johnson (2nd or 3rd round draft pick)

- Time for him to go. Love Johnno to death but if he stays it needs to be as a small forward. Not phased either way with him.
- If we can get Chris Judd by some miracle, Id be willing to trade anyone bar Fletch, Gumby, Ryder, Jetta, NLM, Davey, Lovett and Dempsey

PROMOTE

Heath Hocking/Sam Lonergan

- Think both deserve a spot and will add something to our midfield.

DRAFT

Leaves us with 6 picks in the draft and 2 rookie spots.

- We need to draft a midfielder with our first pick and cover other deficiencies with the rest.

COACH/GAMEPLAN

This is what’s most important. We need a coach who is young and has an understanding of the modern game. Choco would be my first pick but that’s unlikely therefore I wouldn’t mind Guy McKenna. We could use some of the philosophies that West Coast have employed.

- Need to leave Lucas and Lloyd inside 50 with Davey at their feet.
- Need better systems in place, at stoppages and in defence. Too many times this season opposition players spotted up a target inside 50 when we had all our numbers back.
- We need to be a run and carry team, we have the players that can do it, we must play on at every opportunity, break the lines, get the ball in quick to our key forwards.
- Need to shore up all areas of our football club, get everyone focused on the one goal and moving forward together, similar to how Collingwood and Hawthorn have in recent times.
- I believe the new coach is exactly what we need but we need to make sure we get it right and the players behind him. A fresh approach to everything is what we have needed for a while.


So yeah, to sum it up, 10 and 12, with wins over West Coast, Sydney and Adelaide I’m pretty happy with. We’re moving in the right direction. I expect further improvement next year with our relatively young team becoming a year older and a year wiser. I think we have the cattle, just need to continue to develop them get the right sheep dogs moving them in the right direction
 
Chris Heffernan

- You’ll always have that premiership medallion and probably should have got a Norm Smith

Think you might have confused him with Blumfield.

PROMOTE

Heath Hocking/Sam Lonergan

- Think both deserve a spot and will add something to our midfield.

Lonergan is already a listed player?

No spot for Rama?

We'll probably have 3 rookie spots. Dick and Chartres retained.
Rama, Hocking, McKinnon either have to be promoted or delisted.

Other than that, good effort, well thought out.
 
Nice post mate :thumbsu:

As you say I dont think Gumby is ready to hold down that CHF spot just yet. I'd probably let Lloyd play that role and put Lucas back in the goal square as you have.

I would have Welsh on the ground somewhere, or at least in the 22.

Not sure about Jetta just yet either playing on the wing. I'd probably try and fit him into the forward line somewhere (if theres room) where he doesnt have to be as accountable just yet.

Agree with McPhee. His turnovers in defense hurt us, and a position up forward like he played later in the year suited him I feel.

Anyways good thorough discussion mate.
 

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1. I'd prefer it if Dyson was gone and had nothing to do with the side.

2. I don't want Ryder to play in the back half. I'd like him to ruck where he can play as an extra midfielder.

3. I've only seen a little of Dempsey but it makes me think he can be a serious on baller that is good in traffic and has class and poise. I think he'll be wasted on the HBF.

4. Jetta won't be ready to play on ball for another 3 years.

5. I think Rama will be in our best 22 the next 5 years.
 
Think you might have confused him with Blumfield.



Lonergan is already a listed player?

No spot for Rama?

We'll probably have 3 rookie spots. Dick and Chartres retained.
Rama, Hocking, McKinnon either have to be promoted or delisted.

Other than that, good effort, well thought out.


Must have slipped my mind on Longergan and your right on Blumfield, always mixed up he and Heff. Promote Rama and Hocking, delist McKinnon
 
That is a very impressive post. For what its worth, which is probably not much, these are my comments

- Laycock I think is our #1 ruckman. Hille has been a great trier for Essendon over the years and I respect him greatly but he hasn't quite kicked on. Not keen to trade Hille though - we cannot enter the season with one seasoned ruckman!

- Welsh in backpocket ahead of Slattery. Slattery's tagging job on Cousins last game was a good effort but I am not convinced by him, makes too many mistakes

- I would squeeze Hocking into the 22. I've only seen him play once - on ABC in the VFL final - and he looked a gun. A class above the other players on the ground

- I agree that Jetta be given an extended run in the team. If we are are going to lose more than we win (which I fear we may) then lets at least enjoy the pace and flair of Davey, Lovett, Dempsey and Jetta

- The fringe players. I think Bradley should be given a good go next year on the HFF, he may be a little error prone but he is tale, agile and can run. He could be a suprose packet. Although he is tradable, may still have a little bit of currency. Dyson, on the other hand, I think should go. I personally have not seen anything in him that would warrent another year. CJ - he could suprise - I would keep him unless the Bulldogs or somone come sniffing and offer a reasonable midfielder

Whilst I am at it, a few more comments/questions
- The little I have seen of Charltes on the TV he seems very very capable. Lovely left foot kick and good hands. Good size too. Is he much of a chance of a promotion?
- Can't wait to see Rama next season. May not return to his heights of 200 - 2003 but still capable of being a very handy player
- Just like to say goodbye and thank you to the possible retirees or delistings - Bolton, Heff, Johnos and Pev (may get one more season). They have all tried their hearts out for the club and I have a lot of respect for them
 
1. I'd prefer it if Dyson was gone and had nothing to do with the side.

- disagree, think after 3 years in the system, now is the time for him to put up or be gone. 1 more chance.

2. I don't want Ryder to play in the back half. I'd like him to ruck where he can play as an extra midfielder.

- Like the idea of Ryder in the ruck, but his our best option as 3rd tall defender. He has great ability to read the play and is what we need down there.

3. I've only seen a little of Dempsey but it makes me think he can be a serious on baller that is good in traffic and has class and poise. I think he'll be wasted on the HBF.

- Agree he has the potential to be a midfielder but I think at this stage he'll be pushed off the ball to easily. Off half back he can read the play and use his pace to break the lines pushing forward. Needs to learn to use the ball better though. He is deceptively tall and may match up well on oppositon small forwards. Don't think he will be wasted off half back, most teams best players play off half back.

4. Jetta won't be ready to play on ball for another 3 years.

- Yeah I agree, thats why I have him outside on the wing and doubt he will play a full season. I think if we can get him on the ground for 2 and a half-3qtrs he can make an impact. Really depends on how quick he develops.

5. I think Rama will be in our best 22 the next 5 years.

- I hope so
 

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Ok ive got a soft spot for him. Like to see how he goes under a different coach. If he provides nothing, then fair enough let him go star somewhere else

He had one last Saturday in Mathew Knights and he was horrible.

This guy is 208cm..and thats what we have been needing

Let's not worry about the fact that he can't run, can't jump, can't mark and can't kick.

Then we could throw in that he's soft and can't ruck either.
 
good work on the post:thumbsu:

No way should lloyd and lucas play FF and FP, lucas still needs to be at CHF as thats were we we need the delivery to Neagle or Lloyd.
Ibelieve Neagle has the potential to be a big name forward and should defintly be in out 22 next year watching him in the west coast and vfl he looks the kind of kid who can get plenty of it and kick bags of goals

paddy Ryder should be playing hbf and i think NLM should stay in the BP as he matches up well on the quick FP as he can keep up and usaully has the height over them

Laycock should be our number 1 ruckman I think he has a lot of potential and can still develop more needs to get fitter and get to all contests
 
great job on the post. one of the beter "team for next year" threads i have read. i have a few issues. first of all, i dont know about anyone else, but i see wlesh as a future champion..... thats right, champion. i can seriously see his form increase to a level of which mcveighs did this year. obviosuly different players, in different positions, but i can see welsh kicking backs of 4 goals on a running defender who slacks off on him, or stopping a forward like nathan brown from kicking 4. intregral to our team.

dempsey is another case. no doubt he has talent, can break the lines and is what we need. but have people see him play 4 consistant quarters? everyone here raves on about him, but critise lovett from giving anything less than 20 touches and 3 goals. do you think dempsey can hold on to a positon like HBF? i do, but his body needs to be 100%, which i think we are a few years away from seeing.

bravo on mcphee to HFF, i have been dying for tis, and we have seen it in glimpses and he has been great, a third tall up even in the forward line, and we know he likes to go ball hunting, so stick him forward and let him do it and kick a few or set some up.

i also think that pev needs to be retained, and if he is cut i will feel it as if hird as retired all over again. one of my favorites based on effort, hard work and wearing the red and black, which a lot of our players could learn from.

leroy, no way can he start on a wing, all power to him if he can, but he is not fit enough, and averaged liek6 tocuhes a game last year when he was fit, small crumbing forward when alwyn, demps or lovett is out.
 
Let's not worry about the fact that he can't run, can't jump, can't mark and can't kick.

Then we could throw in that he's soft and can't ruck either.

Unfair Longy he can mark :D
 
A lot of thought and a pretty good side. My only change to the 22 would be laycock instead of hille. I know he is inconsistent at present but an injury free pre season might rectify that as he is only 22. He is our best big man option going forward with hille to support (if needed).

Agree with all your delistings aswell with 1 exception. Dyson has had chances and must be shown the door, the younger brigade is more developed than he is and better options going forward, the next batch of draftees will need development and he has had his chance, might keep one of JJ or Pev as bigger body midfielders for 1 last season. Its a long season and the young players need protection at times from the opposition. You saw at Carlton what happened when stevens went down, murphy and gibbs were bashed from pillar to post with no bigger body there to help out.
 

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