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There's something funny about these close Hawthorn wins...

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How scary must it be for an opposition player to see Burgoyne walk up to the centre square with 5 minutes to ago and a goal the difference.
As a Swans fan it actually is. One of the most ruthless players in the comp, and very underrated still. Will be missed when he goes
 
People on about Rioli being clutch and Buddy out on the full

Have any of you considered there's a remote control device in the ball? Of course Rioli can pull out a 55m goal in the last minute of a game with all his hamstring issues :rolleyes:

If you watch the replay in slow motion, you can see the moment they switch the balls. Rioli's kick only went about 30 metres.
 

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I have heard/read (can't recall the source) that Clarkson drills them on hypothetical "last minute" plays repeatedly. It's not that they are lucky or inherently "clutch" players, it's practice and cool heads. Those 50s cost us dearly but they were there. The only thing that had me swearing at the telly was when Hannebery threw himself at the ball and punched it straight to Burgoyne -- argh!

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A little bit of venting, a little bit of indulging my imagination a little bit. I don't know though, it just strikes me as strange how it's happening so much though.

They are winning close ones because they have come back into the field a bit, when compared to when they were dominating teams. Another year or so and they'll start losing close ones and then that will accelerate as the stars like Mitchell, Hodge start retiring. It's just the cycle of footy
 
They are winning close ones because they have come back into the field a bit, when compared to when they were dominating teams. Another year or so and they'll start losing close ones and then that will accelerate as the stars like Mitchell, Hodge start retiring. It's just the cycle of footy

We had close ones last year too............but were losing them. (Cats, Swans, GWS, Essendon :eek:) Does that mean we've improved?

BTW I don't think we have. But it kind of nullifies your theory on why we are winning them.
 
Has it occurred to people that the Hawks don't win all these close games, their opposition loses them?

It's like a long distance race. In the last 400m the guys with "a kick" aren't running faster. They are just the ones not running slower.

In almost every close game you can point to endless mistakes in the last 5 minutes. You will just rarely find any made by Hawthorn. They play consistently brilliant football when it comes to the crunch, and are delighted to watch their opposition hand them the game.

Sydney (who are less experienced than people think) have done this three times this year now. This isn't a coincidence.
 
They are winning close ones because they have come back into the field a bit, when compared to when they were dominating teams. Another year or so and they'll start losing close ones and then that will accelerate as the stars like Mitchell, Hodge start retiring. It's just the cycle of footy

Yes. This hits the nail on the head.
 

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Has no one realised that the conditioning staff have been gearing the players up for endurance? They're all leaner than most of their direct opponents. As a result they play a space and pressure game, that concedes early control of games but gradually wrestles it back as they're able to continue to run and use their skills while others drop off. Hawks supporters were amazed at how much they trimmed down over the off season, no one else seems to have noticed. Shame on you lot.

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They are winning close ones because they have come back into the field a bit, when compared to when they were dominating teams. Another year or so and they'll start losing close ones and then that will accelerate as the stars like Mitchell, Hodge start retiring. It's just the cycle of footy

Their decline will be eventually swift but at this point we can't see it but a stack of stats show it is only a matter of time.

It will happen and I congratulate them for taking their opportunities at the moment - but my bet, they won't win the GF.

Cue the Hawks fans having a go at this post.
 
Their decline will be eventually swift but at this point we can't see it but a stack of stats show it is only a matter of time.

It will happen and I congratulate them for taking their opportunities at the moment - but my bet, they won't win the GF.

Cue the Hawks fans having a go at this post.

I'll have a go...

It's certainly a longshot, and I'd be as surprised as anyone to see us salute this year. But you'd have to agree that so far, we've set ourselves up as well as anyone could ask.

If we don't, I'd be hoping for an Adelaide vs Dogs GF and I wouldn't really care who wins as long as the game was a ripper.

(There, hope I didn't blow my cue...)
 
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Their decline will be eventually swift but at this point we can't see it but a stack of stats show it is only a matter of time.

It will happen and I congratulate them for taking their opportunities at the moment - but my bet, they won't win the GF.

Cue the Hawks fans having a go at this post.

No your right. We may not win it this year. We are a chance like a few others but a mile from locks....even to play in the GF.

Disagree about the swift decline though. People have been saying that for about 3 years now. Which really means it has been a slow decline.
 

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When you win three flags on the trot, you would think that the playing group may become a little more used to pressure situations than the average team. Hawthorn are a very well drilled team with a very robust game plan which the players execute no matter what the score or time left on the clock.
With two minutes to go the other night I'd guess the swans were far more worried about what Hawthorn were going to do than vice-versa.
Then again umpires, AFL conspiracy, aliens blah blah blah.
 
What a load of horseshit. The footballing equivalent of blaming Israel for ISIS. Hawthorn win tight games because they are excellent under pressure.
 

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