time to axe dutchy!

DemonDoob · May 22, 2005

Isn't it time to give ben holland the axe now? did you see him miss the goal from 10 metres out straight in front. what an embarrassment!! someone tell me why it isn't paul johnson or jamar we are using as forward pocket to stretch teams for height. seriously, wouldn't he be better with them rotating forward pocket instead of holland???

HighRoller · May 22, 2005

In : Miller
Out: Dutchy

demon21 · May 23, 2005

Holland has been ok since coming into the side yes he misses a few easy shots he would be a lot better than Jamar and P.Johnson down there thats for sure.

Supermercado · May 23, 2005

Play him in the backline this week. I fear Richardson + Simmonds.

chaz051 · May 23, 2005

na we need dutchy this week just to occupy a defender, otherwise there will be someone roaming the backline taking easy marks and weak posessions like leppitch or chad cornes

but all in all there is no room for him in the team, especially wen neitz is down there!!

peejay · May 23, 2005

Nah - play him against the tigers.

He might fire up against his old side -

IDGAF · May 23, 2005

peejay said:
Nah - play him against the tigers.

He might fire up against his old side -

I`m with Peej

Dutchy is good

Play him on Richo for sure , couldn`t be any worse than Nicholson could he ?

melbournemartin · May 23, 2005

Supermercado said:
Play him in the backline this week. I fear Richardson + Simmonds.

Miller - Richardson
Nicholson or Fergeson - Simmonds
Nicholson or Fergeson - Schultz

BT · May 24, 2005

DemonDoob said:
did you see him miss the goal from 10 metres out straight in front.

Did you see Aaron Davey do the same thing?

Holland spanked De Luca early on. Jamar & Johnson aren't forwards on what i've seen of them.

DemonDoob · May 24, 2005

BT said:
Did you see Aaron Davey do the same thing?

Holland spanked De Luca early on. Jamar & Johnson aren't forwards on what i've seen of them.

your kidding urself if u think u know footy BT. my point is why would we put someone up forward who is slow and can't apply any pressure, can't take contested marks and for fuc*k sake can't kick for goal.
Hence my point being Jamar or Johnson would be just as good if not better. Holland is hopeless. Why would u have a forward who can't kick for goal? it would be like having a defender who can't fuc*kin punch !!!

Supermercado · May 25, 2005

It was a farcical kick, but let's not forget about the one he drilled from 50 out.

rick James · May 25, 2005

Supermercado said:
It was a farcical kick, but let's not forget about the one he drilled from 50 out.

spot on Super market.

dees_best · May 25, 2005

DemonDoob said:
your kidding urself if u think u know footy BT. my point is why would we put someone up forward who is slow and can't apply any pressure, can't take contested marks and for fuc*k sake can't kick for goal.
Hence my point being Jamar or Johnson would be just as good if not better. Holland is hopeless. Why would u have a forward who can't kick for goal? it would be like having a defender who can't fuc*kin punch !!!

Riiiiight.

I think you'll find Dutchy has kicked more goals than he has missed this year.

His mobility has improved, he still is pretty slow but he is no longer a statue.

Jamar is doing fine as our backup ruckman and isn't capable of playing good footy in the forward pockect, same with PJ for that matter.

At the moment Holland is providing a target and taking one of the oppositions key defenders, that's all we should ask of him.

melbournemartin · May 25, 2005

dutchy actually is good for our forward setup

he needs a tall, strong defender on him and he acts well as a decoy for neitz.

i think u are going a bit overboard just cos he missed that goal. like someone here previously said, remember the one from 50 metres out near the boundary. i was sitting on the opposite side and i saw the melbourne cheer squad go up and i was like "no....he can't have"

evo · May 25, 2005

Come on,you have to play Stegasaurus,please.Just one more game for old times sake.

Marns · May 25, 2005

evo said:
Come on,you have to play Stegasaurus,please.Just one more game for old times sake.

He'd be your key to you winning.

Hawk Dork · May 25, 2005

Yeah I agree

WOOOPS SORRY
I thought I was on the Hawthorn Board

w00dy · May 25, 2005

DemonDoob said:
your kidding urself if u think u know footy BT. my point is why would we put someone up forward who is slow and can't apply any pressure, can't take contested marks and for fuc*k sake can't kick for goal.
Hence my point being Jamar or Johnson would be just as good if not better. Holland is hopeless. Why would u have a forward who can't kick for goal? it would be like having a defender who can't fuc*kin punch !!!

can't take a contested mark for ********?? you're kidding... dutchy as taken some great contested marks for us... and he has had some terrible kicks at goal, but he's also had some very good ones...

he stays in this week... to be reassessed when rivers is back... i think miller may play down back this week...

Terry Tan · May 25, 2005

He's quite under rated and can kick goals on his day (kicked 5 a few weeks ago). The only negative is that he is slow.

johnnyhoward · May 25, 2005

How old is Dutchy? You gotta admire both brothers' will and determination to continue playing AFL despite the fact they are s**t.

Tormented Tiger · May 25, 2005

Had to laugh watching White Line Fever on Fox tonight. Some Melbourne blonk supporter rang in and was quick to let them know he thought he had the right footy smarts and was about to let Neale know on what should be done with 1 Ben Holland. Before he could get it out he was cut off and Neale Danniher started defending Dutchy. Was quick to say how he has been playing with an injury and how the Dee's would have been alot worse off if he wasn't there while Neitz has been injured. Food for thought, your coach likes him.

davey_magik · May 28, 2005

After last night's performance he deserves a spot in our best 22 easily. He kicked three, but things like the smother on Graham shows he does plenty of one-percenters which really help out. Having him down there also helps Neitz and takes pressure off him.

demon21 · May 28, 2005

Holland has been great all year his kicking can let him down sometimes but thats way he is. I think if melb are going to have a chance for the flag we need Holland in the team so we can have 3 tall marking forwards.

BT · May 29, 2005

evo said:
Come on,you have to play Stegasaurus,please.Just one more game for old times sake.

Ok then just for you mate...

Played well again, funny that.

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