Tippett's Gone - READ RULES BEFORE POSTING

[Schulzycrow]

Woah Dude!

 

[dazz69au]

wow 19k posts for this..............mind blowing! I like it

 

[Elite Crow]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-players-to-lose/story-e6freck3-1226511021945

This says the Dees will have 7 days to respond meaning they will still be able to participate in the draft. Surely we must as well. But would we be better off losing our first pick this year given its shit or are we better banking a player and getting them into the system?

 

[cammo6556]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-players-to-lose/story-e6freck3-1226511021945

This says the Dees will have 7 days to respond meaning they will still be able to participate in the draft. Surely we must as well. But would we be better off losing our first pick this year given its shit or are we better banking a player and getting them into the system?

I'd take the player... I don't think our pick next year will be a whole heap better.

 

[Sanders]

Me and the mates reckon Sheedy is banging the drum a bit loud for someone who doesn't have to

Think he's trying to force syd & tipp to put a mega high price tag in the draft so he falls to sydney & their cap is buggered. Meanwhile the old fox is laughing his head off

 

[Mego Red]

You have to be kidding, the player pick at 20 could also end up a dud. Melbourne thought premiership points were worth less than picks too, see how that worked out. One player does not make a team, losing points would be the worst possible result.

Uh - no. Completely wrong.

Melbourne created a culture of losing.

We will still win sixteen games, with a stronger squad longterm that includes a first round pick. We will just be credited with fourteen wins. And once we're in the finals, out destiny is our own to control. Win a match or two, and where you finished is irrelevant.

 

[Defacto]

Me and the mates reckon Sheedy is banging the drum a bit loud for someone who doesn't have to

Think he's trying to force syd & tipp to put a mega high price tag in the draft so he falls to sydney & their cap is buggered. Meanwhile the old fox is laughing his head off

sheedy just tries to attract media attention has nothing to do with other clubs

 

[fabs33]

What happens if the AFL decides that our penalty should be something minor or just a fine? What then, do we get compensated for not being able to trade Tippett?

 

[BrissyCrow]

What happens if the AFL decides that our penalty should be something minor or just a fine? What then, do we get compensated for not being able to trade Tippett?

Thats an interesting question. Given they forced us not to draft (in the last week) it now falls on them. If we are found to be guilty of a lesser crime and the penalty reflects this would we have the right to demand of or sue the AFL. I see Shine Lawyers are advertising here so perhaps we should "stand our ground".

 

[SpeciousArgument]

What happens if the AFL decides that our penalty should be something minor or just a fine? What then, do we get compensated for not being able to trade Tippett?

Thats an interesting question. Given they forced us not to draft (in the last week) it now falls on them. If we are found to be guilty of a lesser crime and the penalty reflects this would we have the right to demand of or sue the AFL. I see Shine Lawyers are advertising here so perhaps we should "stand our ground".

I suspect the AFL would be able to claim that since Swans weren't going to offer anything we would accept and Tippett wouldnt go elsewhere that a deal was unlikely anyway and PSD was the most likely result.

 

[BrissyCrow]

I suspect the AFL would be able to claim that since Swans weren't going to offer anything we would accept and Tippett wouldnt go elsewhere that a deal was unlikely anyway and PSD was the most likely result.

But that is an assumption on behalf of the AFL.

 

[SpeciousArgument]

But that is an assumption on behalf of the AFL.

i agree but i think its a reason for the afl to make the argument that we wouldnt need to be compensated.

 

[Footypie32]

Would laugh so hard if poor little Kurt went into the draft, but no club thought he was worth the money or the hassle and he ended up homeless and out of the AFL forever.

 

[Elite Crow]

Thats an interesting question. Given they forced us not to draft (in the last week) it now falls on them. If we are found to be guilty of a lesser crime and the penalty reflects this would we have the right to demand of or sue the AFL. I see Shine Lawyers are advertising here so perhaps we should "stand our ground".

It's our own fault revealing the issue so late that we didn't give them time to investigate it. I would say its bad luck.

 

[Elite Crow]

Would laugh so hard if poor little Kurt went into the draft, but no club thought he was worth the money or the hassle and he ended up homeless and out of the AFL forever.

Homeless? That's a tad harsh

 

[IddyBiddy]

Uh - no. Completely wrong.

Melbourne created a culture of losing.

We will still win sixteen games, with a stronger squad longterm that includes a first round pick. We will just be credited with fourteen wins. And once we're in the finals, out destiny is our own to control. Win a match or two, and where you finished is irrelevant.

Right. I'm sure playing meaningless games will have no impact on the team. I cannot imagine any greater example of supporters over valuing draft picks than those who would rather lose premiership points than pick 20 in a draft.

If people want to get excited about draft picks, get excited about a top three pick in Crouch who will be added to our list. We are insulated this year, yes extra players at the pointy end of the draft would be nice but this year is the best year for us to lose picks. Losing points would be soul destroying any year.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

I think $kurt will be a bit disappointed with Leon Cameron as his forward coach. He's over 5'9" (he's just over 6ft tall) but still not that dreamy 6'4" coach $kurt has waited all his life for.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Would never wan to lose premiership points as it would be demoralizing for the playing group

Losing premiership points punishes the team, losing picks punish the club

If we lost pick 20 the team will still go into the season chock full of confidence, if we lost 8 premiership points the tam moral would be seriously dented

 

[Jars458]

I suspect the AFL would be able to claim that since Swans weren't going to offer anything we would accept and Tippett wouldnt go elsewhere that a deal was unlikely anyway and PSD was the most likely result.

Any possibility the AFL could decide that Tippett has to be traded for fair value and they force the Swans to give us pick 23 and Rohan. My god I would laught very hard if that happened!!

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Any possibility the AFL could decide that Tippett has to be traded for fair value and they force the Swans to give us pick 23 and Rohan. My god I would laught very hard if that happened!!

This has about 0% chance of happening IMO. The chances of the Crows getting anything in return for Tippett ended a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Team DJ]

Would never wan to lose premiership points as it would be demoralizing for the playing group

Losing premiership points punishes the team, losing picks punish the club

If we lost pick 20 the team will still go into the season chock full of confidence, if we lost 8 premiership points the tam moral would be seriously dented

Correct. Clueless to say youd rather lose points.

Pick 20 could be shithouse.

Pre Dangerfield we sucked with our first few picks. We were always much better at finding the roughies late. Who says that we cant do that again.

 

[cmndstab]

Homeless? That's a tad harsh

I assume he means without an AFL home, rather than living out of a box or something.

 

[SpeciousArgument]

Correct. Clueless to say youd rather lose points.

Pick 20 could be shithouse.

Pre Dangerfield we sucked with our first few picks. We were always much better at finding the roughies late. Who says that we cant do that again.

Matt Rendell does.

sorry i dont disagree with you but i couldnt resist

 

[Team DJ]

Matt Rendell does.

sorry i dont disagree with you but i couldnt resist

It was only when rendell showed up that we started hitting the top picks.
prior to him was when we use to fluff them, and nail the late ones.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Any possibility the AFL could decide that Tippett has to be traded for fair value and they force the Swans to give us pick 23 and Rohan. My god I would laught very hard if that happened!!

Yeah, nah! Not gonna happen!

The absolute best outcome we can hope for is if AFL "allowed" us to get compensation if Kurt gets picked up by GWS as our 2nd uncontracted player (I know the window has closed). But if hell froze over and AFL said because AFC have lost Davis to GWS and are loosing Kurt Tippett they are allowed to be compensated by the AFL so we get Tier 1 or Tier 2 compensation to activate in next draft.

Most likely scenario is, we get sweet **** all for Kurt, get a massive fine and lose draft picks in this year's draft and possibly next year's draft as well.

When you look at it like that, its a pretty bloody big penalty. Hopefully we can off-set that by raiding the free agency market next year.