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[WaynesWorld19]

I think there will be a lot of happy Crows fans if we only get a fine and no loss of draft picks out of this. Unfortunately ( ) I'd be very surprised if that was the outcome though. I think we're going to lose draft picks for 2012 at least.

We have already .......first round draft pick at ;least for Tippett ...already a big price paid!

 

[Cap]

I think - based on a couple lines on Triple M 10 mins ago that Dangerfield may be being investigated as well. They said it was one of the stars of the Crows.

While Tippetts deal seems to be 'shaky' (why say not to tell AFL), I wonder if the rest are a result of the club and AFL having different understandings of the rules rather than deliberate breaches.

I actually agree with your last part, but going on MMM track record, their breaking news is generally just made up.

 

[skoobydoo]

We won't come out of this unscathed, but it may not be as bad as this attack warrants. She has always been very respected. Unfortunately breaking a story like this can be addictive and it appears she's fallen into the "must find and report something" frame of mind.

Its called the Rootshi syndrome.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I actually agree with your last part, but going on MMM track record, their breaking news is generally just made up.

AFL said investigation over and charges laid ........what's so hard to understand that it's over

All these rumors now are in fact just media trying to keep story going with NO FACTS !!!!

Media has been pitiful over this episode .....no wonder no-ones buying papers anymore!!

 

[crowman_23]

It will be good when the results come out to see how wrong the media have been. Sure they might get parts right, but if you have that many guesses you have to hit it at least once. Will be good when Wednesday morning rolls around though and it's all done, all these new articles don't help with the worry process of what will happen.

 

[Emperoar]

AFL said investigation over and charges laid ........what's so hard to understand that it's over

All these rumors now are in fact just media trying to keep story going with NO FACTS !!!!

Media has been pitiful over this episode .....no wonder no-ones buying papers anymore!!

Soon it'll be our turn to get laid by Vlad the implaider. All the lube in the world won't be able to help us

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It will be good when the results come out to see how wrong the media have been. Sure they might get parts right, but if you have that many guesses you have to hit it at least once. Will be good when Wednesday morning rolls around though and it's all done, all these new articles don't help with the worry process of what will happen.

Sure .......look at my post above and how many times the details of the supposed secret deal have changed

The ONLY constant that the media have reported is the agreement to traded Tippett to a club of choice for a 2nd round pick"

Everything else have been guesses around the fact there was some undertakings on 3rd party deals ......

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Joyce WILL BE redrafted!

Clubs still have some gentlemans understanding ......and I am 100% of the opinion all AFL clubs will see the injustice of Adelaide being forced to delist a player due to Tippett .....and they'll leave Joyce alone to be redrafted

never been surer

I wouldn't be 100% sure about this. Joyce will be redrafted, but it may not necessarily be the Crows.

This whole fiasco has taught us that gentleman's agreements/understandings/whatever you want to call them are often anything but.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I wouldn't be 100% sure about this. Joyce will be redrafted, but it may not necessarily be the Crows.

This whole fiasco has taught us that gentleman's agreements/understandings/whatever you want to call them are often anything but.

I am 100% sure !!!! .......clubs have done this before under special circumstances .....and I think AFL clubs will be respectful of Joyces position

I'd even put money on it .....and i don't bet

 

[crowman_23]

Sure .......look at my post above and how many times the details of the supposed secret deal have changed

The ONLY constant that the media have reported is the agreement to traded Tippett to a club of choice for a 2nd round pick"

Everything else have been guesses around the fact there was some undertakings on 3rd party deals ......

And read the end of my sentence where I say if you have that many guesses you are bound to be right. You completely misread what I wrote.

 

[Malibu#27]

Basically what Dittmar has said is VB knew nothing about the 3rd party deal, and the club did that without his knowledge, and that the board has been hooking up third party deals for players using their contacts.

Only way the VB comments could be true that I can think of is the club offers him say 50K less a year on his contract and without his knowledge tees up third party contract for him, that third party then goes to VB and offers him a deal which he accepts (as you would) not knowing its a setup. It seems implausible though as the club couldn't be that silly.

He went on to say board heads will roll within a week or so and another high profile player (I guessed Danger) out in a day or two.

that being said its Twittmar who's as big a muck raker as anyone on Adelaide radio.

 

[whatboutbob]

Yes as i have said .....and unfortunately EQ's image has been damaged as she is taught/mentored by caro .....who i must admit have loved her articles in the past .....but in the last 12 months just has been wrong far too often

So EQ reports:
1. $200k in contract "underwritten
Revised to
2 $300K in contract "underwritten
Revised to
3. $30K in contract "not underwritten
Revised to
4. $40K in contract "not underwritten"

So assuming their sources are accurate .....what is it guys ????????

Really don't think they have any real idea .......the AFL said investigation is over and charges laid ......now Caro says Van Berlo is being investigated

Is the investigation over or not !!!!!!!

Interesting. Pushing my luck, but have you got dates/links for those by any chance? I'd be curious to re-read 'em.

My vague impression was that 3 of those are not mutually exclusive.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

And read the end of my sentence where I say if you have that many guesses you are bound to be right. You completely misread what I wrote.

no i agreed with what you said ?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Interesting. Have you got dates/links for those by any chance?


My vague impression was that 3 of those are not mutually exclusive.

sure I'll just look back through the 21,000 posts

It was EQ's article that she got hammered on on Adelaide radio ......Pretty sure the figure jumped from $200K to $300k within a week of the first article ...and of course the Balfours deal coming out this week

Strange thing is the "hanging offence" is us underwriting 3rd party deals ....but the media have dropped off that element

Certainly no underwriting of the Balfours deal .....my understanding was we "supposedly" underwrote the total of 3rd party deals Tippett could expect per year
Didn't exceed TPP .....and my understanding is AFC never had to make a payment to Tippett .....but fact is arrangement not disclosed to AFL

 

[Cap]

Basically what Dittmar has said is VB knew nothing about the 3rd party deal, and the club did that without his knowledge, and that the board has been hooking up third party deals for players using their contacts.

Only way the VB comments could be true that I can think of is the club offers him say 50K less a year on his contract and without his knowledge tees up third party contract for him, that third party then goes to VB and offers him a deal which he accepts (as you would) not knowing its a setup. It seems implausible though as the club couldn't be that silly.

He went on to say board heads will roll within a week or so and another high profile player (I guessed Danger) out in a day or two.

that being said its Twittmar who's as big a muck raker as anyone on Adelaide radio.

Yeah I agree on Dittmar.

It is going to be interesting what the AFL consider to be a breach, Adelaide is small place I would imagine the benefits some Crows are getting would be similar to that of Port players.

 

[The_Answer3]

lawl

 

[Malibu#27]

Yeah I agree on Dittmar.

It is going to be interesting what the AFL consider to be a breach, Adelaide is small place I would imagine the benefits some Crows are getting would be similar to that of Port players.

Possibly, but that's one area we have an advantage though..... we struggle to find enough sponsors to cover the club, doubt we have the energy to find to many extras

 

[The_Answer3]

Draft; we will

 

[jo172]

This thread will get a million posts

 

[New_England]

He went on to say board heads will roll within a week or so and another high profile player (I guessed Danger) out in a day or two.

What?

Are you saying Danger (or a high profile player) is going to quit the club?

 

[xamol]

Adjournment!!

 

[whatboutbob]

sure I'll just look back through the 21,000 posts

It was worth a shot.

Didn't exceed TPP .....and my understanding is AFC never had to make a payment to Tippett .....but fact is arrangement not disclosed to AFL

That's my impression too, which is why I figured 3 of your examples weren't mutually exclusive. It was possible to have a 30k deal + a 40k deal that weren't individually underwritten, while the whole sum of $200k was underwritten...if that makes sense?

Strange thing is the "hanging offence" is us underwriting 3rd party deals ....but the media have dropped off that element

Certainly no underwriting of the Balfours deal .....my understanding was we "supposedly" underwrote the total of 3rd party deals Tippett could expect per year

I just figured that's how the leak has played out (deliberately, or otherwise), starting with a wide focus then narrowing in. I suspect they'll start to pull back out soon as the pieces start to fit together.

 

[Super sub]

SEN - AFC has requested and been granted an extension. The hearing will not happen on Monday now. Draft proceeds as normal.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151237/default.aspx

 

[Cap]

Possibly, but that's one area we have an advantage though..... we struggle to find enough sponsors to cover the club, doubt we have the energy to find to many extras

potentially.

but this is club focused, this is player focused, I reckon every club would be checking and double checking pending the outcome on Monday/Tuesday.

 

[Discarnate]

Wow - this is the thread that never ends.