Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[ScragCity]

Come across this on the saints board about young Fischer McAsey

Sammy P has done it again!

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Sammy P has done it again!

Of course, it helps that young Fischer comes from a strong Bulldog family...

 

[weltschmerz]

If we got McAsey to develop and an older key back for a few years, Martin-style, we'd be doing well. Heard word that Sam Darcy leans towards playing back as well.

 

[stefoid]

McCasey does seem 'gawn' given various articles floating about. And we do seem like the obvious place for him to want to come to for all the obvious reasons.

but can he play?

 

[Munnez]

McCasey does seem 'gawn' given various articles floating about. And we do seem like the obvious place for him to want to come to for all the obvious reasons.

but can he play?

He is a big boy and they can take a few years to develop, Ben McKay would be a good example. Takes time to get the required strength to hold down a KPD spot full time, and with two years development already into now is the time to engineer a trade before he possibly comes on and gets a lot more costly to do a deal.
As always there is the risk that he doesn't develop Collins for example. With KPD being our biggest hole in the list reckon he is well worth taking a punt on him being a success story in the right environment

 

[Northernsoul74]

Come across this on the saints board about young Fischer McAsey

Makes sense for us. As much as I’d love a gun ready to go KPD we have to keep an eye on cap space and he would be cheap salary wise. I’m far from convinced by him but we can offer him time and development. Plus he does seem available and there aren’t many who are.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

McAsey has been absolute crap in every AFL game he’s played, def going to be a long term project.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Players like Naughty & Timmy give me slight uneasy feelings for the future, probably unjustified considering they’ve both been quick to sign up long term in the past with no fuss have been on big money and playing AFL since very early on and both look like super popular guys around the club. But Bont literally doesn’t even cross my mind, never been more confident in a player staying.

Just about everyone else... meh no one else is that important we can’t cover them really.

We have The Power!

 

[scooter600x]

McAsey has been absolute crap in every AFL game he’s played, def going to be a long term project.

He looks really slow

 

[Munnez]

McAsey has been absolute crap in every AFL game he’s played, def going to be a long term project.

Hard spot to be a KPD as a Rookie and with the team getting smashed. And if the rumours of a trade request at the start of this season are true, I wouldn't expect to see him at AFL level this year

 

[dogwatch]

He is a big boy and they can take a few years to develop, Ben McKay would be a good example. Takes time to get the required strength to hold down a KPD spot full time, and with two years development already into now is the time to engineer a trade before he possibly comes on and gets a lot more costly to do a deal.
As always there is the risk that he doesn't develop Collins for example. With KPD being our biggest hole in the list reckon he is well worth taking a punt on him being a success story in the right environment

He looks really slow

Collins was big and strong but his fatal flaw was his lack of speed and agility. You can't teach that or train it into someone.

IF ... McAsey is agile, has ground skills and has reasonable closing speed by all means chase him.

If not ... we would be going backwards getting in a list clogger on whatever salary is needed to entice him over ($300k+ I'd imagine). In that case we'd be better off looking elsewhere.

We can certainly give him time to develop. Gardner was 22 and Keath was 25 when they played their first games. Brian Lake didn't get regular games until he was 21.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Collins was big and strong but his fatal flaw was his lack of speed and agility. You can't teach that or train it into someone.

IF ... McAsey is agile, has ground skills and has reasonable closing speed by all means chase him.

If not ... we would be going backwards getting in a list clogger on whatever salary is needed to entice him over ($300k+ I'd imagine). In that case we'd be better off looking elsewhere.

We can certainly give him time to develop. Gardner was 22 and Keath was 25 when they played their first games. Brian Lake didn't get regular games until he was 21.

He’s not agile or quick, that’s the big knock on him.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Makes sense for us. As much as I’d love a gun ready to go KPD we have to keep an eye on cap space and he would be cheap salary wise. I’m far from convinced by him but we can offer him time and development. Plus he does seem available and there aren’t many who are.

If the Rumour is true it could be the reason why crows signed Nick Murray

 

[adogsfan5]

McAsey has been absolute crap in every AFL game he’s played, def going to be a long term project.

Doesn’t help he’s played mainly forward...

 

[Philthy1]

He looks really slow

Josh Bruce was slow and not very agile last year. Turns out he was just unfit.

Nevertheless, we'd have to do due diligence very careful on McAsey.

 

[dogwatch]

He’s not agile or quick, that’s the big knock on him.

If true it's a definite NO from me. He doesn't have to be Moz-quick, as long as he's nothing like Collins-slow.

 

[Dogsman16]

I need to see more consistency from him in the future, but Aaron Francis' game on saturday is the exact prototype of what Bev would want from a tall defender.

He read the play superbly and used the ball really well.

He might be a good case example of how tall players need lots of time.

 

[dergert]

Adelaide's recruiters are some of the best in the league. So I hold hope for McAsey.
People were saying similar things about Weitering.

Worth a punt at the right price.

 

[Munnez]

Josh Bruce was slow and not very agile last year. Turns out he was just unfit.

Nevertheless, we'd have to do due diligence very careful on McAsey.

If one S Power is showing interest that is cause for me too think that the club see's potential in him. And there is no rewards without risk, we need to be bold and if we can't entice a ready made KPD I would take a shot on a 10 year KPD if he makes the grade

 

[stefoid]

Can we retrospectively somehow get K.Picket instead?

 

[adogsfan5]

Adelaide's recruiters are some of the best in the league. So I hold hope for McAsey.
People were saying similar things about Weitering.

Worth a punt at the right price.

Wont be cheap!

 

[Northernsoul74]

Wont be cheap!

If he nominates us it shouldn’t cost too much. SANFL player that has show very little at afl level.

 

[TedDougChris]

Can we retrospectively somehow get K.Picket instead?

he’s good isn’t he !!

 

[Dale4captain]

Is Josh Battle an option as a Key Back? Seems to be in a weird spot at the Saints.

I know he’s not the hulking type we probably need, but is a brilliant athlete and great overhead. Very similar to Keath.

 

[LittleG]

Is Josh Battle an option as a Key Back? Seems to be in a weird spot at the Saints.

I know he’s not the hulking type we probably need, but is a brilliant athlete and great overhead. Very similar to Keath.

He is currently being played on the wing....