Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Charlie Bucket]

Josh Kennedy forward line coach 2023

He’s already taken up a long term, post footy job in WA.

 

[Here we go dogs]

If dunks request port I hope we are talking to Zac butters

 

[hatescaptcha]

Does Barrass even want to come to us? He signed long term and is from WA. Do we have any indication that he’s keen to join us?

He would be a huge get and would be literally perfect for us but I just can’t see it happening.

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[Shacf501]

I know McCrae has resigned but the last quarter of the year I would almost have Dunkley over McRae. Both accumulators of stats but at least dunks has some physical aggression and nastiness in him. His defensive pressure is better than Mcraes and obviously can go forward if need be. McCrae can only play a mod role. Its an interesting debate

 

[adogsfan5]

I know McCrae has resigned but the last quarter of the year I would almost have Dunkley over McRae. Both accumulators of stats but at least dunks has some physical aggression and nastiness in him. His defensive pressure is better than Mcraes and obviously can go forward if need be. McCrae can only play a mod role. Its an interesting debate

Macrae is a deadset gun around stoppages and his quick hands are amazing.

In terms of being able to play more than just mid, on the spread and speed he’s a liability.

 

[Smiley Boy]

Off to Port?

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at the tigers

 

[Charlie Bucket]

I mentioned here a while ago Lobb deal done.

Can also add we are balls deep into Barass. Yes he signed a long term deal but we are still trying to recruit him.

Eagles want picks

Also leon cameron done. Hes joining us as a assistant

Give us some back story, Cleveland.

Besides the Lobb stuff, this is pretty big news. Would love to know how fair dinkum it is.

 

[The Inbetweener]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at the tigers

Interesting. I’m of the view his management leaked that stuff to Edmund to flesh out some more offers

 

[immortalmike]

I know McCrae has resigned but the last quarter of the year I would almost have Dunkley over McRae. Both accumulators of stats but at least dunks has some physical aggression and nastiness in him. His defensive pressure is better than Mcraes and obviously can go forward if need be. McCrae can only play a mod role. Its an interesting debate

There is no debate. Macrae is a far better player who is carrying an injury.
Dunkley playing an okay game in a loss has warped some perspectives.

 

[dergert]

Missing finals a year after a grand final.

We will have Lobb, Liam Jones

19

Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

and probably Fischer McAsey

3

Fischer Mcasey

Age

23

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.8

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.3

3star

MG

102.3

2star

D

6.8

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.3

2star

MG

102.3

2star

D

7.2

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

MG

114.8

2star

to make up for it.

 

[Philthy1]

If dunks request port I hope we are talking to Zac butters

We’ve got a banged up Keath, Gardner who is not up to it and Cordy who barely ever was as our key defensive posts, no second ruck, and we should prioritise bringing in a midfielder?

 

[ScragCity]

Missing finals a year after a grand final.

We will have Lobb, Liam Jones and probably Fischer McAsey to make up for it.

Don't forget Hambling

 

[gordo2016]

Keath will retire I reckon.

 

[Here we go dogs]

We’ve got a banged up Keath, Gardner who is not up to it and Cordy who barely ever was as our key defensive posts, no second ruck, and we should prioritise bringing in a midfielder?

We aren’t losing games because our key backs. We are losing because our midfield gets exposed defensively, our zone is shocking and our bottom 6 don’t contribute.

You take out Dunks we become a lot weaker in the midfield and it weakens our midfield depth.

My preference is (if possible) is to retain Dunkley at all costs. I would have prioritised him over Macrae, smith and definitely Daniel.

In regards to key backs we have Gardner that is serviceable (watch him step it up a notch in a reasonable system), we have a developing Darcy and the option of putting naughton back if we pick up lobb. Subsequently I’m not to phased about a key talls given the emergence of jamarra and that I think darcy can have an immediate impact.

On the other hand, I don’t think we can win a premiership without one more defensively minded midfielder.

I hope your comfortable with mccomb playing a lot more football next year if we don’t find another mid to come in for Dunkley if he goes.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Should have kept Lipinski and let Dunkley go. He is leaving anyway but now we have no immediate replacement. Poor list management.

 

[Here we go dogs]

Should have kept Lipinski and let Dunkley go. He is leaving anyway but now we have no immediate replacement. Poor list management.

I don’t think lipinski would of been the right replacement.

He never handled pressure around the footy and didn’t stick his tackles when he played for us.

 

[Philthy1]

We aren’t losing games because our key backs. We are losing because our midfield gets exposed defensively, our zone is shocking and our bottom 6 don’t contribute.

You take out Dunks we become a lot weaker in the midfield and it weakens our midfield depth.

My preference is (if possible) is to retain Dunkley at all costs. I would have prioritised him over Macrae, smith and definitely Daniel.

In regards to key backs we have Gardner that is serviceable (watch him step it up a notch in a reasonable system), we have a developing Darcy and the option of putting naughton back if we pick up lobb. Subsequently I’m not to phased about a key talls given the emergence of jamarra and that I think darcy can have an immediate impact.

On the other hand, I don’t think we can win a premiership without one more defensively minded midfielder.

I hope your comfortable with mccomb playing a lot more football next year if we don’t find another mid to come in for Dunkley if he goes.

Que? I beg to differ. Our backline is an atrocity.

Our midfield got us to a GF last year. However, it would appear that other teams have figured out how to beat our system.

I agree that we should keep Dunkley, but not at any cost. He is the only one who has currency. And we have a strong midfield without Dunkley. Bont, Jack Mac, Libba, Treloar, Smith, with West and Garcia ready to come on. We have to sacrifice something to get what we need.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Missing finals a year after a grand final.

We will have Lobb, Liam Jones and probably Fischer McAsey to make up for it.

I know they are different ages but is there any evidence that Fisher McAsey has ever shown more than Tim O’Brien?

 

[CDBulldog]

If we are to land Lobb, we could be fielding the tallest team next year. Surely no other team has 4 guys on their list at 205cm or taller - English, Darcy, Lobb and Sweet. If Schache stays then we would have 5 players at 200cm or taller (Schache is listed as 201). What a turnaround it would be. For years/decades I’ve watched undersized Bulldog teams but not anymore.

 

[Philthy1]

I know they are different ages but is there any evidence that Fisher McAsey has ever shown more than Tim O’Brien?

Shown less as he can’t get a game for Adelaide. Crows BF board reckon he is a bust.

 

[Dog 36]

Keath will retire I reckon.

Is that a hunch, educated guess or you know it’s a serious consideration?

 

[Doggy]

Freo supporters want a top 10 pick for Lobb

LOL

 

[BIG_BONTS]

Freo supporters want a top 10 pick for Lobb

LOL

After that performance I’d be asking for a first rounder too haha

Easily worth a second rounder to us

 

[Doggy]

After that performance I’d be asking for a first rounder too haha

Easily worth a second rounder to us

Yes but a first is pure dream land.

If he was 25 sure. He will be 30

 

[Here we go dogs]

Que? I beg to differ. Our backline is an atrocity.

Our midfield got us to a GF last year. However, it would appear that other teams have figured out how to beat our system.

I agree that we should keep Dunkley, but not at any cost. He is the only one who has currency. And we have a strong midfield without Dunkley. Bont, Jack Mac, Libba, Treloar, Smith, with West and Garcia ready to come on. We have to sacrifice something to get what we need.

I think the backline has been poor but the tall backman havent been a major issue for me.

I think the key issues are lack of pressure on the ball carrier meaning it’s so easy for the oppo to lace out forward targets, our small backs not having enough leg speed to cover space and mostly system (our backline is always open).

I’d say we have lost 1 game all year because the oppo key forwards got a hold of us this year (the first Geelong game and Bev had the match ups wrong not putting Gardner on Cameron).

Saying that another key defender would be nice, but not at the expense of our only defensive midfielder. If we lose Dunkley we need to bring a replacement in before we address the key defender issues.

Given the way the ball enters our d50, I really think Steven may would find it hard to get a intercept mark.

My biggest concern list wise to address team defence is that we don’t have a wingman aside from Hunter (who hasn’t player or has been poor/unfit). My view is a wingman with endurance is our biggest hole. I did like what I saw of Parker in the reserves though. I think he could be the player with a good run of injuries.