Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Dale4captain]

Morris is a dickbag but his info will be spot on.

There was always something up with his 10 week lay off. Lachie Hunter effect.

Sell whatever we need to and get him. Bloke is an out and out gun. Whtwver picks we have, hand them over.

 

[Sentinel]

Sell whatever we need to and get him. Bloke is an out and out gun. Whtwver picks we have, hand them over.

I'm prepared to offer up pick 10, 17 and our F1.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Let's wait until after English either re-signs or goes shall we?

English would be a RFA, so we would be able to force a trade through if we weren’t happy with little/no compo.

Free agency compo needs to be scrapped asap.

 

[Mojorisin]

I'm prepared to offer up pick 10, 17 and our F1.

Exactly what 3 firsts should be used for, not a 6 pick upgrade.

 

[Dry Rot]

Morris is a dickbag but his info will be spot on.

There was always something up with his 10 week lay off. Lachie Hunter effect.

Why are the Dees willing to let him go?

 

[dergert]

Sell whatever we need to and get him. Bloke is an out and out gun. Whtwver picks we have, hand them over.

If Bailey Smith wants out, well we have an upgrade right there.

 

[Mojorisin]

Why are the Dees willing to let him go?

They want pick 1

 

[Foxman98]

I'm prepared to offer up pick 10, 17 and our F1.

I wouldn’t throw in the F1 they’re moving him for a reason 27 next year but 10 and 17 any day of the week not worth 3 now though imo

 

[Bald]

It's sounding a lot like Oliver leaving the Dees, than the Dees wanting to get rid of Oliver IMO.

Interesting times.

 

[weltschmerz]

Why are the Dees willing to let him go?

Could be a Hunter type situation. Dees didn't deny that his long layoff was partly because of an infected self tattoo, might have had a couple of warnings. Apparently doesn't mind a bag as well.

 

[dergert]

Bit of interesting wording here.

Has Essendon written all over it.

St.Kilda too

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I’d be surprised and disappointed if the AFL tick off on the Gresham/Shiel plan. Openly trying to rort the system. Apparently they knocked back an attempt by Adelaide to do the same thing with Brad Crouch

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Brad Crouch

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

and obviously famously didn’t allow GWS to do the five way trade to give themselves the pick 1 MD to get O’Meara

 

[Cudi]

He's on about a million a year, we would defintely have to say goodbye to Baz to accomdate that and might affect Naughton, English, JUH contract offers as well.

Could see an Essendon or Hawks as most likely landing spot.

 

[Foxman98]

He's on about a million a year, we would defintely have to say goodbye to Baz to accomdate that and might affect Naughton, English, JUH contract offers as well.

If you have Oliver Baz isn’t that big of a loss salary cap increase helps with the talls

 

[Barking Mad]

Billings has had games of 30+ and at least two goals five times in his career, imagine one of the wing options at the club right now doing that once. He's the type of player who could be a complete bust or become a bargain buy.

How does that compare when BW played on a wing for us? Has kicked multiple twice in way less games.
I’d suggest Billing used to save his best for us but he’s not on his Pat there

 

[Cudi]

If you have Oliver Baz isn’t that big of a loss salary cap increase helps with the talls

True but he's signed to 2030 which is a long time for that much money and something NQR with him.

 

[Foxman98]

True but he's signed to 2030 which is a long time for that much money and something NQR with him.

I’ll take his “unprofessionalism” with what he’s produced on field over whatever you call Baz and his on field performances

 

[glenashley]

Sniffing around some demon mates with the Oliver stuff.

Has a break up with a long term partner last year which he struggled with.

Then the long term injury which he clashed with the demons conditioning staff. He went outside the club to get knee surgery end of season.

Then apparently turned up half ashed to his end of season review.

So demons may be open to losing him but others keen to get him in the right track.

Of course they're talking about getting picks 2 and 3 from North for him... [emoji23]

 

[Foxman98]

Sniffing around some demon mattress with the Oliver stuff.

Has a break up with a long term partner last year which he struggled with.

Then the long term injury which he clashed with the demons conditioning staff. He went outside the club to get knee surgery end of season.

Then apparently turned up half ashed to his end of season review.

So demons may be open to losing him but others keen to get him in the right track.

Of course they're talking about getting picks 2 and 3 from North for him... [emoji23]

They have no chance of trading him to a shit team

 

[Sentinel]

Another long term deal looking like it might be going wrong for a club not too long after being signed. Quoting my earlier post from a while back on this because I'm firmly of the mindset that they're poisoned chalices which should be avoided, no matter who the player is.

I hate it. I understand that the market has moved in this direction but if I had it my way we would give max 4 year deals to the best players and no more than 2-3 year deals to anyone who isn't clearly in the top few. Certainly no deals beyond 3 years to anyone on the wrong side of 26/27 unless you're a Bontempelli type.

So often they seem to come back to bite clubs - our 5 year Macrae deal right now looks extremely shakey, then you look at others like Kelly & Coniglio at the Giants, Grundy at the Pies etc and plenty more examples. Everyone raves about them when pen gets put to paper but they just feel irresponsible to me. Even 27 year old Harry Himmelberg managed to get himself a 6 year, $5m deal ffs.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

The idea of getting him back is somewhat romantic due to 2016 but the bloke has played a grand total of 6 games across the past 4 seasons. We need someone reliable, not someone who'll likely spend the majority of time in rehab if recent history is anything to go by.

Sydney must think he's capable of getting back on the park, if he came cheap I'd have loved to have him back. I won't be surprised if he comes good at the Swans.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Would take Oliver in a heartbeat, give them Baz and our two firsts this year. He'll demand a kings ransom to be moved though.

 

[Barking Mad]

Let's wait until after English either re-signs or goes shall we?

Well he’ll be with from 2-19 depending on where we finish. Band1 is what it is. Prey on the weak and they get compensated.
Main issue is the club obtaining only having to pay contract and no hit to points

 

[Foxman98]

Would take Oliver in a heartbeat, give them Baz and our two firsts this year. He'll demand a kings ransom to be moved though.

He won’t though it’ll be 2 firsts

Similar to when we moved Jake on off field issues tank the price

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I can't stand Oliver. Toby would be the only player in the comp I dislike more. So unlikeable.

He is as good a ball winner in the comp and even if you don't have the assets, you'd have to enquire about him.

I'm guessing Melbourne is only willing to do it if they can get pick 1 as a minimum, well within their right to ask for more than that. Not sure if that will be possible so can't see it eventuating but will be an interesting watch.