Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[RWnBluey]

Jesus Christ... Saints made their bed hiring Silvagni as their recruiter after his efforts at Carlton (gifting contracts to his sons, hiring low performing ex-GWS players he'd drafted while there) so this can't be unexpected. They now have to hope this doesn't blow up in their faces, because I doubt Wilkie has been on that much

I can’t believe the media are praising this approach. They’re acting like junkies chasing their next hit. When the inevitable comedown arrives and there’s nothing left in the cap, it’ll end in buyer’s remorse and a Collingwood-style fire sale.

 

[VitalDread]

Blight on North radar

 

[Dogs Rule]

At what point is that a genuine conflict of interest?

JSOS has just been paid well above market value (and well above other offers) by his own father.

Of course, but that's where a strong admin step in but they're so desperate they just can't help themselves.

We have a new Essendon. Trade week winners.

 

[dergert]

Blight on North radar

Of course.

 

[my plums]

29 games over 4 years mate, that's what his played.
If we could of gotten him on pennies, you take it, not even close to what the Saints are offering.

Bigger fish to fry.

If that trend continues they’ll be paying him $118k per game

 

[RWnBluey]

Blight on North radar

Bli(ght)p on North radar?

 

[BLACAE]

Tylar Young or Jordan Butts certainly win - one of them is certainly getting a pay rise and AFL game time with us next year.

Hey mate.

Reading this, it seems you're suggesting one will be in the RWB next year. Is that true, or am I reading too much into it.

 

[Mofra]

Hey mate.

Reading this, it seems you're suggesting one will be in the RWB next year. Is that true, or am I reading too much into it.

I'm in the hopium. Media reports have is as one of 3 clubs chasing Young and we'd surely be the most attractive option.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Other than any club with a draft pick in the 2nd round or later (assuming he attracts band 2 compo), which will be pushed down as a result of this stupid non-zero sum free agency compensation system.

Yes. Its an opaquely stupid rule that is open to manipulation. One that for the most part effects those downstream.

But the reality is that its just another brick of the scales of inequity that is the compromised nature of the draft and where picks finally fall.

The draft has become Frankensteins monster and he steps all over everybody's dick. And its as equitable as its ever likely to be, without systemic reform, but like taxation reform or middle class welfare. Its going to be hard to put the toothpaste of personal interest back into the tube.

Tylar Young or Jordan Butts certainly win - one of them is certainly getting a pay rise and AFL game time with us next year.

I know nought about any of these or the others guys like Budarick mentioned in this thread.

Who are they and what do they offer outside of what we currently have?

It'd want to be something beyond being tall. Because we wasted enough time on exactly these types when we were casting about for forwards.

If they dont fit the criteria of being more than an incremental (Like Silvangi was) upgrade on what we have then I. DO. NOT. WANT.

Trade period is weeks away.
Let's just wait for trade period. A lot of the more solid player movement snippets only appear after finals anyway.

Its a pretty funny reply when you see who he was replying to.

No bait. All hook.

 

[Cudi]

With Richmond delisting Blight wouldn't that mean they are confident of re-signing Tylar Young?

 

[Doggies7]

At least there going after players and getting better who are we going after to make us better no body We are not getting butts there has been no reports that he is coming to us

1. We also went after JSOS to make us better but wisely didn't offer $900K for 5 years.
2. Trade period doesn't start for another month, plenty of time for moves still.
3. We absolutely may get Butts still, he will make a decision if he wants to move on after the finals series, why would you demand a trade while your teams is playing finals still when you're on the bubble of best 22? Would just about rule yourself out from getting picked.

 

[Chalky White]

Jesus Christ... Saints made their bed hiring Silvagni as their recruiter after his efforts at Carlton (gifting contracts to his sons, hiring low performing ex-GWS players he'd drafted while there) so this can't be unexpected. They now have to hope this doesn't blow up in their faces, because I doubt Wilkie has been on that much

But But But the media saying they’re killing it by being aggressive. What they aren’t saying is how pissed off 65% of the list will be.
This has Hindenburg written all over it

 

[Golden_6]

With Richmond delisting Blight wouldn't that mean they are confident of re-signing Tylar Young?

Almost certainly. They've chosen their path.

 

[MaxiBont]

Bullet dodge lmao. People were saying the same about Barrass last year with back concerns. Far out people happy to roll out the same tripe we dished up all year defensively.

God forbid we could actually land anyone worth getting.

These are Bonts last years and we continually sit on our hands. So disappointing.

Barrass is 100x the player JSOS is

Not comparable misses

 

[Doggies7]

Saints are going to be putting a target on their backs now after this spending spree.

Darcy Wilson out of contract end of next year will get some big offers (hopefully by us).

Wilkie an obvious one they need to look after and give a pay rise too now that they have brought Aleer and JSOS in on more money than him.

There's no way they can pay everyone on these big deals, someone is bound to get pushed out.

 

[Doggies7]

Almost certainly. They've chosen their path.

I think it will come down to money for him. He turns 27 in two days so this will be his chance at a decent contract to make some money. If we offered $100-$200k more than the Tigers are willing to pay, I don't think there's much doubt he would leave. Just depends how much we are willing to offer

 

[Dogs Rule]

Saints are going to be putting a target on their backs now after this spending spree.

Darcy Wilson out of contract end of next year will get some big offers (hopefully by us).

Wilkie an obvious one they need to look after and give a pay rise too now that they have brought Aleer and JSOS in on more money than him.

There's no way they can pay everyone on these big deals, someone is bound to get pushed out.

I just don't believe all those crap about the Saints 'having to start paying players and using their cap'.

We should be in Wilkie's ear today.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

How much did StK pay Dan Hannebery?

 

[WAbulldog]

How much did StK pay Dan Hannebery?

800k per year I believe

 

[WAbulldog]

Well I’m not fussed that we missed out on JSOS and good that we didn’t up out offer with what the Saints are offering.

 

[TiAn_]

Not sure about Budarick. His contested defensive 1v1 loss rates over the years are horrific, much worse than all of the small defenders we already have.

Can anyone that has watched confirm if he passes the eye test in terms of his actual defending?

 

[FoochPackage]

Jacob Blight lmao. Far out. Honestly has anyone actually ever watched him. He's worse than what we have already got.

 

[FoochPackage]

How do you think paying a bloke who'd be lucky to have played 15 decent games as a defender in 10 years a million dollars for 5 years would help that?

Because he's an upgrade on what we already have. Id back in the Doctors and fitness gurus to get him up and going more than he previously has.

 

[WAbulldog]

Not sure about Budarick. His contested defensive 1v1 loss rates over the years are horrific, much worse than all of the small defenders we already have.

Can anyone that has watched confirm if he passes the eye test in terms of his actual defending?

The times I’ve seen him this year he’s been playing up forward so I’m not sure how he does as a defender. Hasn’t been bad but average.

 

[dergert]

Not sure about Budarick. His contested defensive 1v1 loss rates over the years are horrific, much worse than all of the small defenders we already have.

Can anyone that has watched confirm if he passes the eye test in terms of his actual defending?

I'd prefer Seamus Mitchell