Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Mofra]

Are they any less gettable than Wilkie?

Honestly, yes. Pearce and Cox are their starting KPPs. They're not going anywhere.

 

[Doggy]

Honestly, yes. Pearce and Cox are their starting KPPs. They're not going anywhere.

Pearce is the Captain target for Tasmania

 

[Doggy]

Saints supporters are the funniest ddelusional group

 

[Pencil case]

Saints supporters are the funniest ddelusional group

Should’ve seen them last year, I’m infamous on their board now for suggesting Macrae was worth a second round pick.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

Surely Marra would be make a better Key back than Young or Silvagni or Butts or others that are not gettable. After watching Smith play this year, I’ll be so disillusioned if Marra goes to another club and does well. Means we are poor in managing complex characters and needs to be looked at. Don’t know if that’s Bevo or Edge or Bains but it needs to be better.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Surely Marra would be make a better Key back than Young or Silvagni or Butts or others that are not gettable. After watching Smith play this year, I’ll be so disillusioned if Marra goes to another club and does well. Means we are poor in managing complex characters and needs to be looked at. Don’t know if that’s Bevo or Edge or Bains but it needs to be better.

How far do you go though? How many times can you tell a bloke that attending nightclubs at 2.30am with undesirables is probably not a good idea? Too little personal responsibility these days.

 

[BrisDog]

Don’t know if that’s Bevo or Edge or Bains but it needs to be better.

It’s Marra.

 

[TiAn_]

Should’ve seen them last year, I’m infamous on their board now for suggesting Macrae was worth a second round pick.

I only go there after we flog them every year to laugh at their autopsy thread. Hugely toxic board from the little I’ve seen.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

How far do you go though? How many times can you tell a bloke that attending nightclubs at 2.30am with undesirables is probably not a good idea? Too little personal responsibility these days.

We can blame the player and if he never plays again, then we did the best we could and was just unsalvageable.
But if he joins another club and ends up a gun, do you still put the full blame on the player or do we need to look within and ask whether we have the right people in the right roles? No one knows now where the Marra story goes but I look at Smith and think premierships are hard enough. How do we lose a 23yr old All-Australian (in his next year) for peanuts. Its not like he got a $1.7m godfather offer, he just decided he didn’t want to play for us anymore.

 

[Scragger77]

Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

will nominate the Saints…..he would cost them $800K you would think

 

[Libbaaaa]

Liam Ryan will nominate the Saints…..he would cost them $800K you would think

War chest but.

 

[Dav1d]

Liam Ryan will nominate the Saints…..he would cost them $800K you would think

In a few years time how do they expect to keep all of their young talent, I wouldn’t feel comfortable about it if I was a Saints supporter

 

[Dogs Rule]

We can blame the player and if he never plays again, then we did the best we could and was just unsalvageable.
But if he joins another club and ends up a gun, do you still put the full blame on the player or do we need to look within and ask whether we have the right people in the right roles? No one knows know where the Marra story goes but I look at Smith and think premierships are hard enough. How do we lose a 23yr old All-Australian (in his next year) for peanuts. Its not like he got a $1.7m godfather offer, he just decided he didn’t want to play for us anymore.

And how do we know that Mr Cotton On (who sponsors Geelong) didn't say to Smith 'Here's an extra however much over however long if you come over to Geelong'?

Let's not just fall for the Smith camp spin trying to repair his image and paint him as the innocent individual cruelled by a heartless football club (supporting him through his drug issues, Euro summer mid season...).

Let's all remember that Smith instigated the move. He was the one that cracked the s*, he did the dirty on the club that wanted to keep him. Sometimes the other person in a split is just a p*

 

[NthBondiDoggies]

Love the idea (above) of JUH coming back as a FB. This is the kind of challenge that could turn around his reputation. Become a hero and show he is going to do the work for the team. If I was his manager I would ask for it and get him training now / this focus would be huge. And For us - when Chris G went back he grew reputation- was arguably a better CHB than CHF.

 

[Doggies7]

Harvey Thomas is a small fwd from the Giants I'd love to target next year.

 

[Randomthoughts]

Love the idea (above) of JUH coming back as a FB. This is the kind of challenge that could turn around his reputation. Become a hero and show he is going to do the work for the team. If I was his manager I would ask for it and get him training now / this focus would be huge. And For us - when Chris G went back he grew reputation- was arguably a better CHB than CHF.

I would assume myself that Marra seeks an alternative club following his AFL gap year. I would also think that like Naughton there’s no way he would give up kicking goals to play in defence assuming he plays afl again for us or elsewhere.
Hope I am wrong would love to have back.

 

[Spiritof82]

We can blame the player and if he never plays again, then we did the best we could and was just unsalvageable.
But if he joins another club and ends up a gun, do you still put the full blame on the player or do we need to look within and ask whether we have the right people in the right roles? No one knows now where the Marra story goes but I look at Smith and think premierships are hard enough. How do we lose a 23yr old All-Australian (in his next year) for peanuts. Its not like he got a $1.7m godfather offer, he just decided he didn’t want to play for us anymore.

On paper he may not have got a $1.7m offer but I'm sure under the table with the Cotton On bonus's, budget land purchases and other undisclosed sponsorships he woud've easily got that (plus the clubs blind eye to whatever he gets up to in his own time as long as he turns up to play)

 

[doggie dog]

How far do you go though? How many times can you tell a bloke that attending nightclubs at 2.30am with undesirables is probably not a good idea? Too little personal responsibility these days.

If someone offered me 900k for work, I'm following the company rules.
That is life changing money

 

[Dogs Rule]

If someone offered me 900k for work, I'm following the company rules.
That is life changing money

And when that money disappears, the penny might, might, finally drop, by which time it's too late, for him anyway.

 

[Spiritof82]

And when that money disappears, the penny might, might, finally drop, by which time it's too late, for him anyway.

I'm sure his manager is telling him that (as the manager will loose his cut as well) but I don't think JUH is smart enough to realise what will happen

 

[Blewdog]

Hawks are where we should be as a club, they bend us over in finals and then go out and get two key defenders, and we are left watching finals this year. We gotta be ruthless and get some defenders this trade period.

 

[Bald Headed Flog]

Hawks are where we should be as a club, they bend us over in finals and then go out and get two key defenders, and we are left watching finals this year. We gotta be ruthless and get some defenders this trade period.

Things are a lot simpler for large Victorian clubs when it come to recruiting

 

[MaxiBont]

Hawks are where we should be as a club, they bend us over in finals and then go out and get two key defenders, and we are left watching finals this year. We gotta be ruthless and get some defenders this trade period.

We went hard at Barrass and were offering similar to the Hawks

He chose them

 

[Philthy1]

Hawks are where we should be as a club, they bend us over in finals and then go out and get two key defenders, and we are left watching finals this year. We gotta be ruthless and get some defenders this trade period.

if only it were that easy.

 

[TiAn_]

We went hard at Barrass and were offering similar to the Hawks

He chose them

Their coach laid it on thick with him during the season, which Bev was opposed to doing. We may not have a finals appearance but Bev’s a good bloke so it evens out.