Trade hypotheticals

[mike123]

Thoughts on:
Brisbane receive: Dayne Beams + Pick 46 (WCE)
Collingwood receive: Pick 4(BRIS) + Sam Reid + Pick 22 (BRIS)
Sydney receive: Joel Patful + Callum Sinclair + Pick 28(WCE)
West Coast receive: Lewis Jetta + Pick 44 (COLL) + Pick 40 (BRIS)

Collingwood don't really need Sam Reid and West Coast have Wellingham, they don't need another lazy mid who was only good because the team he played for was good.

 

[Wargreymon90]

How about this Collingwood can keep pick 4 and pick McFly or McMartin or McWright or whatever his name is and hope that in 5 years time he is a gun. Here I am offering them a clearance/contested ball beast. WIN WIN WIN for all 3 teams involved.

Bad luck Essedon fans. You no longer have the most deluded fans in the comp as this North nuffie takes the cake.

 

[eth-dog]

Bad luck Essedon fans. You no longer have the most deluded fans in the comp as this North nuffie takes the cake.

North and Richmond always had them

 

[mike123]

You can easily get a quick mid at 4 or take Durdin or whichever tall you want. Greenwood is not really needed for the Pies

Pick 4 isn't really needed for the pies. I'd rather the talent around pick 15 as there are more players that would fit our list. With Beams going, Maccaffer injured and Swan on his last legs we need another hard-working midfielder who can spend allot of time in the centre square. We can't really rely on Swan Pendlebury and Adams as Swan offers nothing defensively and lost allot of of his offensive game as well. Adams is still young and was just about to break into the best 22 and Pendlebury their is only one of him. Pick 4 for pick 15 and Greenwood I'd take.

 

[scott_the_man]

Pick 4 isn't really needed for the pies. I'd rather the talent around pick 15 as there are more players that would fit our list. With Beams going, Maccaffer injured and Swan on his last legs we need another hard-working midfielder who can spend allot of time in the centre square. We can't really rely on Swan Pendlebury and Adams as Swan offers nothing defensively and lost allot of of his offensive game as well. Adams is still young and was just about to break into the best 22 and Pendlebury their is only one of him. Pick 4 for pick 15 and Greenwood I'd take.

Thoughts on jono o'rourke?

 

[POKsPies252]

If Greenwood is in calculations then id like to keep pick 4 also

Bris gain: Beams
Bris lose: pick 4, 24

Pies gain: Pick 4, Greenwood
Pies lose: Beams, 45

North gain: 24, 45
North lose: Greenwood

I can admit Greenwood had a pretty good year and he'd be handy for us but this year was his only good year and he's uncontracted so therefore it lowers his value

 

[I am Jack]

If Greenwood is in calculations then id like to keep pick 4 also

Bris gain: Beams
Bris lose: pick 4, 24

Pies gain: Pick 4, Greenwood
Pies lose: Beams, 45

North gain: 24, 45
North lose: Greenwood

I can admit Greenwood had a pretty good year and he'd be handy for us but this year was his only good year and he's uncontracted so therefore it lowers his value

That is reasonable.

 

[Lemma]

Yeh want to keep Greenwood but if we were gonna lose him that's not bad

 

[amos]

If Greenwood is in calculations then id like to keep pick 4 also

Bris gain: Beams
Bris lose: pick 4, 24

Pies gain: Pick 4, Greenwood
Pies lose: Beams, 45

North gain: 24, 45
North lose: Greenwood

I can admit Greenwood had a pretty good year and he'd be handy for us but this year was his only good year and he's uncontracted so therefore it lowers his value

Brisbane spanked hard there.

 

[scott_the_man]

If Greenwood is in calculations then id like to keep pick 4 also

Bris gain: Beams
Bris lose: pick 4, 24

Pies gain: Pick 4, Greenwood
Pies lose: Beams, 45

North gain: 24, 45
North lose: Greenwood

I can admit Greenwood had a pretty good year and he'd be handy for us but this year was his only good year and he's uncontracted so therefore it lowers his value

I reckon all clubs would be fairly happy with that trade

 

[scott_the_man]

Brisbane spanked hard there.

I think it's fair considering how good a player Beams is

 

[Baird]

Why does Greenwood want to leave North?

 

[Baird]

I reckon all clubs would be fairly happy with that trade

I really don't think North would be happy with pick 24 and 45 for greenwood. He was one of their best players this year

 

[scott_the_man]

I really don't think North would be happy with pick 24 and 45 for greenwood. He was one of their best players this year

He's uncontracted though, if he wanted to join the pies I reckon North would take that

 

[Oddhawk]

Still think mine is better...
This is second I'd say tho

If Greenwood is in calculations then id like to keep pick 4 also

Bris gain: Beams
Bris lose: pick 4, 24

Pies gain: Pick 4, Greenwood
Pies lose: Beams, 45

North gain: 24, 45
North lose: Greenwood

I can admit Greenwood had a pretty good year and he'd be handy for us but this year was his only good year and he's uncontracted so therefore it lowers his value

 

[mike123]

Thoughts on jono o'rourke?

Haven't seen enough of him to make any judgements. From what I heard he isn't really a clearance which is why I'd go after Greenwood.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Haven't seen enough of him to make any judgements. From what I heard he isn't really a clearance which is why I'd go after Greenwood.

Very dodgy hamstrings too, buyer beware is the one thing I'll say with O'Rourke. If you get 24, your pick 28 would be about right for O'Rourke flat.

 

[dlanod]

Brisbane spanked hard there.

Many of the more reasonable supporters have assumed we're probably giving up our first two picks for Beams and are reasonably happy about it.

 

[Smoocher]

If Greenwood is in calculations then id like to keep pick 4 also

Bris gain: Beams
Bris lose: pick 4, 24

Pies gain: Pick 4, Greenwood
Pies lose: Beams, 45

North gain: 24, 45
North lose: Greenwood

I can admit Greenwood had a pretty good year and he'd be handy for us but this year was his only good year and he's uncontracted so therefore it lowers his value

No Deal. Greenwood top 5 pick easily.

 

[NinjaSwan]

No Deal. Greenwood top 5 pick easily.

Greenwood is worth 10-20 at best.

 

[mike123]

Greenwood is worth 10-20 at best.

But Greenwood and pick 15 is worth pick 4, depending on how much North want pick 4.

 

[Smoocher]

AGAIN I REPEAT MYSELF. Picks are speculative and GREENWOOD is a ready made inside mid that will play 200 games for your club. He is ready to play tomorrow. You don't have to develop him or teach him how to win a clearance. Winning your own footy is key in todays footy.
People seem to throw around picks 5 or 6 or 7 as if they are gold. Your pick in the top 10 may end up being a dud. Greenwood has no ifs or buts about him. Would be 1st or 2nd best inside mid in 80% of teams. Get real people.

 

[Smoocher]

Classic case of over rating your talent, he has had one good season. Would be a fringe player at the hawks and swans.
Would be competing against shiels at the hawks. Point I'm trying to make is greenwood is probably worth a real late first round pick or early second and he is probably worth more to north than other clubs.

Here are the stats. Greenwood a clear winner with 6% less game time.
Player Statistics Comparison
Liam ShielsNameLevi Greenwood
Hawthorn HawksTeamNorth Melbourne Kangaroos
Midfield Position Midfield


2014 Stats for Season 2014
Shiels Greenwood
21 Games 22
13.9 Kicks Per Game 14.6
8.8 Handballs Per Game 10.4
22.7 Disposals Per Game 25.0
3.8 Marks Per Game 5.4
0.4 Goals Per Game 0.7
0.5 Behinds Per Game 0.8
6.1 Tackles Per Game 4.4
0.2 Hitouts Per Game 0.2
4.3 Inside 50s Per Game 4.2
0.6 Goal Assists Per Game 0.3
1.0 Frees For Per Game 1.0
1.5 Frees Against Per Game 1.2
8.4 Contested Possessions Per Game 10.4
14.3 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 14.4
14.8 Effective Disposals Per Game 16.5
65.2% Effective Disposals % Per Game 66%
3.2 Clangers Per Game 3.4
0.1 Contested Marks Per Game 0.3
0.3 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.6
3.7 Clearances Per Game 4.0
1.2 Rebound 50s Per Game 1.4
1.6 One Percenters Per Game 1.1
0.4 Bounces Per Game 0.8
84.5 Time On Ground % Per Game 78.6
$470,189 AFL Fantasy Price $524,244
94.7 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 101.3
$467,500 Supercoach Price $476,200
87.7 Supercoach Score Per Game 95.4

 

[Lemma]

Wow I'm a North fan and I don't think Greenwood is worth top 5. Was dropped at times last year.

 

[Kramer1]

AGAIN I REPEAT MYSELF. Picks are speculative and GREENWOOD is a ready made inside mid that will play 200 games for your club. He is ready to play tomorrow. You don't have to develop him or teach him how to win a clearance. Winning your own footy is key in todays footy.
People seem to throw around picks 5 or 6 or 7 as if they are gold. Your pick in the top 10 may end up being a dud. Greenwood has no ifs or buts about him. Would be 1st or 2nd best inside mid in 80% of teams. Get real people.

If he plays longer than Boomer maybe...