List Mgmt. Trade Week 2016 - Live Thread

[squashface]

#aggressive
#handjobe

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

Are you SERIOUSLY advocating spending our first rounder on a 34 year old player for a best case scenario of 2 seasons?

Jesus Christ. 3rd rounder Maximum.

some people have lost the plot on this forum. Idiots willing to trade players and 1st/2nd round draft picks are the same clueless people at Eagles home games that just bleat "kick it!!" when we have the ball. If we give up more than a 3rd rounder for MItchell and Eagles fans are saying its a win they will be added straight to ignore list for their stupidity.

 

[ChampRevesby]

Same as me.

haha

Yeah same. I have code that wont write itself.

 

[06Premiers]

This still a thing?

Never not a thing.

 

[Auric Goldfinger]

ok, having had a bit of time to digest this potential trade, and given we are about to land the 2012 Brownlow medallist, as long as the boy can play ruck i am happy with this trade

 

[nameless]

Not to mention that after this year our first rounder will have gone to a midfielder in all of the last four years. The idea from some people around here that our coaching staff doesn't know that our midfield is our weakness or that we haven't been trying to improve it is nonsense.

Yeah I looked at our recruits over last 3 years and posted in the old draft thread:

X. Ellis (def/mid)
Yeo (mid/utility)
Sheed (mid)
Karpany (mid/fwd)
Barrass (def)
Main (mid)
Maginness (mid)
Powell (def)
Lamb (fwd/mid)
Duggan (mid)
Nelson (mid/def)
Cavka (mid)
Waterman (mid)
Lucas (mid)
Brophy (def/utility)
Adamson (def/utility)
Redden (mid)
Jetta (mid)
Giles (ruck)
Partington (mid)
Cole (def/mid)
Mutimer (mid)
Allen (fwd)
Snadden (mid)

Of the 24 players we've recruited, 14 are what I'd say pure midfielders or at least recruited to fill that role. Yeo been swung around a bit, Nelson playing def a bit as well, but we see their best footy as being in the guts.

I'd argue that another 4 could be played through midfield - Ellis, Karpany, Lamb, Cole.

So 6 of our recruits over 3 years have been non-mids (assuming Brophy and Adamson are more defenders) which is fairly balanced, but certainly shows the focus has been in the right areas.

 

[squashface]

It's interesting, we aren't giving ourselves much time to do this given I've just read that Mitchell hasn't even been to the club yet.

Vozzo says that we still want to do a medical once he gets back from a holiday from New Zealand, so unless he gets back within the next few days I would expect this deal to only be made on the last day or two of trade period.

 

[Keys]

Just had Graham Wright form Hawthorn on trade radio

Clarkson suggested to Mitchell two weeks ago he consider playing at west coast and Mitchell then spoke with the club (Hawthorn) to pursue the idea

We had already been talking with Mitchell for some time about a coaching role

This is a stand alone deal for Hawthorn and won't impact other trades

We were proactive chasing Mitchell to coach when he finished playing and this has morphed into him perhaps playing for us.

Will people just now shut up about Vozzo not doing anything

 

[pantskyle]

It's interesting, we aren't giving ourselves much time to do this given I've just read that Mitchell hasn't even been to the club yet.

Vozzo says that we still want to do a medical once he gets back from a holiday from New Zealand, so unless he gets back within the next few days I would expect this deal to only be made on the last day or two of trade period.

He could have a medical in Victoria if required. The only thing he'd need to do in Perth is tour the club which he has best mate Simmo to tell him how cool it is.

 

[Always Ballin]

Lock me in for Petrie too. He's serviceable as a ruck, and more importantly is a goal kicker.

 

[Keys]

It's interesting, we aren't giving ourselves much time to do this given I've just read that Mitchell hasn't even been to the club yet.

Vozzo says that we still want to do a medical once he gets back from a holiday from New Zealand, so unless he gets back within the next few days I would expect this deal to only be made on the last day or two of trade period.

Medical is just due diligence and won't stop negotiations. A deal can easily be agreed to subject to a medical being done.

Further, Simpson is good friends with both Mitchell and Clarkson so we won't be getting shafted on something like a hidden medical issue

 

[Keys]

Lock me in for Petrie too. He's serviceable as a ruck, and more importantly is a goal kicker.

2 x 300 game players at West Coast

woohoo

 

[new breed]

Vozzo and Kim Hagdorn have turned there careers around overnight ....amazing

EDIT Vozzo has been pretty good for a while but Kimmy has scooped the pool

 

[Lolbert]

Lock me in for Petrie too. He's serviceable as a ruck, and more importantly is a goal kicker.

Lets not get carried away now...

 

[Eaglemaniac]

S.Mitchell in our 22 is better than Hutchings in our 22.

Wash your mouth out..how dare you talk about our midfield saviour like that...

 

[Keys]

Vozzo and Kim Hagdorn have turned there careers around overnight ....amazing

Kim Hagdorn is in broken clock territory

Vozzo is unfairly maligned on this board

 

[Always Ballin]

We'll move forward with signing Mitchell and Petrie.

 

[SpaceClef]

Yeah I looked at our recruits over last 3 years and posted in the old draft thread:

X. Ellis (def/mid)
Yeo (mid/utility)
Sheed (mid)
Karpany (mid/fwd)
Barrass (def)
Main (mid)
Maginness (mid)
Powell (def)
Lamb (fwd/mid)
Duggan (mid)
Nelson (mid/def)
Cavka (mid)
Waterman (mid)
Lucas (mid)
Brophy (def/utility)
Adamson (def/utility)
Redden (mid)
Jetta (mid)
Giles (ruck)
Partington (mid)
Cole (def/mid)
Mutimer (mid)
Allen (fwd)
Snadden (mid)

Of the 24 players we've recruited, 14 are what I'd say pure midfielders or at least recruited to fill that role. Yeo been swung around a bit, Nelson playing def a bit as well, but we see their best footy as being in the guts.

I'd argue that another 4 could be played through midfield - Ellis, Karpany, Lamb, Cole.

So 6 of our recruits over 3 years have been non-mids (assuming Brophy and Adamson are more defenders) which is fairly balanced, but certainly shows the focus has been in the right areas.

Arguable that Snadden is a pure mid, but regardless, I don't think it should be considered unusual that midfielders are recruited more than other positions. The vast majority of players you recruit should be able to play there given there's only a handful of key position slots on field.

I remember watching a Hawthorn game a couple of years ago where a total 14 different players contested centre bounces/boundary throw-ins over the period of the match which reflects the proportion of midfield recruits you've mentioned above.

IMO without doing any research our recruiting would be about on par with most clubs

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

He could have a medical in Victoria if required. The only thing he'd need to do in Perth is tour the club which he has best mate Simmo to tell him how cool it is.

Doctors are better over there anyway, apparently

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Lock me in for Petrie too. He's serviceable as a ruck, and more importantly is a goal kicker.

He hasn't played in the ruck for years.

 

[Smithy06]

What's funny about it is if Simpson knew about this Mitchell deal during the year he reminded the league of how to defeat Hawks by just having Hutchings tag Mitchell. At least it will free up Gaff and Shuey

 

[twotooto]

Strong draft, missing out on potentially adding a 10 year player to our list.

OR add a 34 year old for one season so he can join the boys club on the coaching panel.

Frankly i'm surprised people are so erect by the idea.

Even if Mitchell doesn't play a single game it's still a huge win for the club.

The midfield has been and still is the weak link. His knowledge of the game and every opposition team is second to none.

I'm sure his input will be priceless. It will make WC a much better team.

Any games he plays are just a bonus.

 

[swingdog]

From The Age:

West Coast head of football Craig Vozzo said any deal between the club and Hawthorn for Mitchell would not involve the Eagles' top draft pick at 12.

 

[Biggie]

Apologies to the Hawks supporters lurking.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

The more i think about it the more it looks like Clarko helping his mate Simmo to snag a flag.