Transfer discussion thread

[Magma]

the most important question though

would you rather one neymar or however many freddo frogs 222 million euros can get you?

 

[kangaspurs]

Why is it in bad taste if the people/club buying the player, can afford to do so? As with everything to do with football, I think it's all relative. PSG are backed with astronomical finances - why shouldn't they flex their financial muscle?

I get what you're saying but don't see why this one would be the one that breaks the camels back.

The moral implications, the obvious links to Qatar, the number of people that have died as a result of preparation for the World Cup. I know it's relative, and I don't necessarily criticise them spending money that they obviously have. But if this deal ties in with WC2022 promotion then I wouldn't surprised to see questions asked about the morality of the deal and it's implications. It's distasteful

There also has to come a point imo where there comes a, disenfranchisement, if you like, with football and sport in general on a large scale due to the money involved. Ironically, perhaps, not from the lower class in football mad countries and regions because of their obsession with the sport and the esteem in which they hold their idols. But I think there will be a point in the near future, maybe even as a result of this deal and it's relationship with Qatar 2022, where the media class will seriously question if this is something that can continue.

 

[Zidane98]

Get the feeling that this deal will affect a lot of other clubs. Barca looking to buy, PSG maybe looking to sell.

Could kickstart a big couple of weeks. Can't see Barca going into the season with what they've got. They'll want a big signing, as much as a statement as anything.

Can see Barca signing either Dybala or Griezmann if they sell Neymar.

 

[Cooldude]

Sounds terrible.

Brazilian footballers know their priorities, would totally do what they do

 

[FAITH]

the most important question though

would you rather one neymar or however many freddo frogs 222 million euros can get you?

id take dybala,griezm and coutinho over neym

 

[Zidane98]

The moral implications, the obvious links to Qatar, the number of people that have died as a result of preparation for the World Cup. I know it's relative, and I don't necessarily criticise them spending money that they obviously have. But if this deal ties in with WC2022 promotion then I wouldn't surprised to see questions asked about the morality of the deal and it's implications. It's distasteful

There also has to come a point imo where there comes a, disenfranchisement, if you like, with football and sport in general on a large scale due to the money involved. Ironically, perhaps, not from the lower class in football mad countries and regions because of their obsession with the sport and the esteem in which they hold their idols. But I think there will be a point in the near future, maybe even as a result of this deal and it's relationship with Qatar 2022, where the media class will seriously question if this is something that can continue.

Totally correct. I don't think anyone would have a problem with Qatar spending a fortune on Neymar if they paid their migrant workforce correctly and looked after them. It is in extremely poor taste that they go out and fund a £200m pound move for a French football club to buy one player considering the appalling human rights situation in Qatar.

This sort of transfer ruins the game IMO and is disgraceful.

 

[moomba]

You hear that the money in the game is turning a lot of people away from the sport. It rarely does.

Long gone are the days footballers have second jobs,,or catch the train to the game wuth the fans.

And fair enough too. They are the best of the best and deserve to be rewarded. If it's not going in their pocket it's certainly not going towards building hospitals or rubbing out poverty which us the line that usually gets trotted out.

I remember when we signed Yaya and the same lines were trotted out. He (or we, can't remember which) got called the whore of football in a national newspaper because of his "obscene" wages. Hospitals, nurses, poverty was all talked about.

He's been worth every penny and more.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Pretty odd considering he was one of the best RBs in the league last season. You reckon LB should be looked at instead in your opinion?

hes getting old. aurier will be his replacement if hes worth it

 

[Zidane98]

Nobody is asking PSG's owners to fix the world's issues that have nothing to do with them.

Slaves working for them is a very real problem that is happening right now. I don't see how anyone can defend their funding of the Neymar purchase considering their appalling human rights record.

 

[typeclub]

And 100% Madrid newspapers said yes too.

 

[kangaspurs]

Totally correct. I don't think anyone would have a problem with Qatar spending a fortune on Neymar if they paid their migrant workforce correctly and looked after them. It is in extremely poor taste that they go out and fund a £200m pound move for a French football club to buy one player considering the appalling human rights situation in Qatar.

This sort of transfer ruins the game IMO and is disgraceful.

Not so sure that it 'ruins the game' tbh. I think this kind of transcends football and could perhaps be used in a broader discussion that touches on inequality, distribution of wealth, perspective, the morality of sport etc.

But yeah, I agree that this deal is distasteful.

You hear that the money in the game is turning a lot of people away from the sport. It rarely does.

Long gone are the days footballers have second jobs,,or catch the train to the game wuth the fans.

And fair enough too. They are the best of the best and deserve to be rewarded. If it's not going in their pocket it's certainly not going towards building hospitals or rubbing out poverty which us the line that usually gets trotted out.

I remember when we signed Yaya and the same lines were trotted out. He (or we, can't remember which) got called the whore of football in a national newspaper because of his "obscene" wages. Hospitals, nurses, poverty was all talked about.

He's been worth every penny and more.

Completely agree that the money wouldn't be used for charitable causes or to lift people out of poverty if it wasn't going towards buying footballers, it probably would have been used to accrue even more wealth or for material gain or whatever

But the nature of football means that this is very much in the public eye and covered in the media throughout almost every country in the world. As such, it's likely to draw much more criticism than say, the Qatari royal family spending it on mansions or sports cars or whatever. Because it such a publicly obscene phenomenon in a field that is followed by so many people I feel as though there is a potential for it to cause unrest, or at the very least, for it to leave a bad taste.

 

[typeclub]

barca have confirmed that neymar has asked to leave.

Excellent.jpeg

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Neymar just wants to go around hanging out with celebs and ******* hot chicks, like a lot of Brazilian footballers

So the move makes sense for him

Poor bastard must be hard getting paid millions to play football travel the world and root anyone you desire

 

[typeclub]

The last CL they won was all Neymar. Suarez only scores junk time goals for them while Neymar has been their clutch player. He goes and kills it for Brazil too, giving performances Suarez and Messi only dream when they're not in a Barca shirt. Yet Messi gets a pay rise as usual, when someone takes the shine off him (see Pep, Alexis, Luis Enrique) they have to leave. Neymar deserves this move, he should be the highest paid player and the star of any team except Real Madrid. If only CR7 wasn't the best player in the world we could do a Figo

Much respect to Neymar. I hope all his dreams come true

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Barca should be doing everything to keep Neymar but they bend for every Messi request even when it makes them a worse team

 

[largebus]

The last CL they won was all Neymar. Suarez only scores junk time goals for them while Neymar has been their clutch player. He goes and kills it for Brazil too, giving performances Suarez and Messi only dream when they're not in a Barca shirt. Yet Messi gets a pay rise as usual, when someone takes the shine off him (see Pep, Alexis, Luis Enrique) they have to leave. Neymar deserves this move, he should be the highest paid player and the star of any team except Real Madrid. If only CR7 wasn't the best player in the world we could do a Figo

Much respect to Neymar. I hope all his dreams come true

Nice troll

 

[typeclub]

Barca should be doing everything to keep Neymar but they bend for every Messi request even when it makes them a worse team

Spot on. They sign players to make Messi look better like Andre Gomes, Turan, Rakitic and now Coutinho.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

You hear that the money in the game is turning a lot of people away from the sport. It rarely does.

Long gone are the days footballers have second jobs,,or catch the train to the game wuth the fans.

And fair enough too. They are the best of the best and deserve to be rewarded. If it's not going in their pocket it's certainly not going towards building hospitals or rubbing out poverty which us the line that usually gets trotted out.

I remember when we signed Yaya and the same lines were trotted out. He (or we, can't remember which) got called the whore of football in a national newspaper because of his "obscene" wages. Hospitals, nurses, poverty was all talked about.

He's been worth every penny and more.

I disagree. People are being turned away from the game, real fans with real passion. But they are being replaced by the plastic, passionless type so foootball won't care

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Spot on. They sign players to make Messi look better like Andre Gomes, Turan, Rakitic and now Coutinho.

Gomes is gash
Turan was never Barca quality
Losing Neymar for coutinho is a massive downgrade
And aren't they trying to flog off rakitic?

Barcas recruiting has been all over the shop the last few years

 

[kreglze]

I disagree. People are being turned away from the game, real fans with real passion. But they are being replaced by the plastic, passionless type so foootball won't care

When I go to Stockport County games, you hear a lot from the punters down there that they couldn't care less for what is happening in the Premier League/Champions League etc.

Could this be a symptom of the money and ridiculous wages being thrown around? Who knows, need to ask them next time I am there for a game.

 

[moomba]

I disagree. People are being turned away from the game, real fans with real passion. But they are being replaced by the plastic, passionless type so foootball won't care

I agree that people are being turned away from the game. But not directly by transfer spending.

There is huge income in the game nowadays, spending is a consequence of that.

My opinion, more of the money in the game should be shared with the supporters in form of cheaper tickets. Fixturing, stewarding etc should be more fan friendly. You should be able to stand, you should be able to watch a game and drink a beer at the same time.

Lots of things driving people away from the game. I don't think transfer money is a big factor.

 

[Jatz]

Ross McCormack has gone to Sunderland on a season long loan.

Can't help but feel his career is going backwards.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

I agree that people are being turned away from the game. But not directly by transfer spending.

There is huge income in the game nowadays, spending is a consequence of that.

My opinion, more of the money in the game should be shared with the supporters in form of cheaper tickets. Fixturing, stewarding etc should be more fan friendly. You should be able to stand, you should be able to watch a game and drink a beer at the same time.

Lots of things driving people away from the game. I don't think transfer money is a big factor.

I agree with some of that, but I've spoken to a lot of people who are disgusted with the money involved now. Whether that is enough to turn th m away from the game long term remains to be seen I guess though

 

[kangaspurs]

Spot on. They sign players to make Messi look better.

I'm surprised they didn't sign CR7 then.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but 222m is Neymar's buyout so if he wants to go nothing Barca can do about it