Transgender - Part 2

[Gethelred]

Please be aware that the tolerance of anti-trans language on BF is at an all-time low. Jokes and insults that are trans-related, as well as anti-trans and bigoted rhetoric will be met with infractions, threadbans etc as required. It's a sensitive (and important) topic, so behave like well-mannered adults when discussing it, PARTICULARLY when disagreeing. This equally applies across the whole site.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

'I'm proud of how I look': Lions star hits back at body shamers

Dakota Davidson is proud of her appearance, but hateful comments about how she looks have caused the talented forward so much anxiety she's now nervous to use public female restrooms

www.afl.com.au

For Davidson, comments on her appearance tend to circle around her short hair, leaving members of the public comfortable with questioning the All-Australian forward's gender identity.

"It's really frustrating because that's how everyone sees you. They see you as 'you're the boy that plays for the Lions'," Davidson said.

"I hate to pump myself up here, but I'm an All-Australian forward. That's a really nice accolade to win, and then winning the (2023) Grand Final. You know, I'm here to be a footballer, I'm not here to be your Saturday night entertainment in how you can rip a poor girl's heartstrings."

Simply going to the bathroom in public is a catalyst for Davidson's anxiety because of the cruelty regularly hurled her way.

"You'd go to the bathroom, you wouldn't even think twice about it, whereas I go into a public bathroom, and I am just anxious. It's quite an anxious feeling to be able to just walk into a public bathroom," Davidson admitted.

"I (was at) Melbourne Airport and I was just like [to teammate] 'Courtney [Hodder], I don't want to go into the bathroom'. But [there is] an all-genders bathroom, and I just went straight in there. I felt so comfortable, I was like 'this is awesome, unreal'.

"So, I just avoided the women's bathroom altogether."

I've said it before and I'll say it again, whatever mistreatment is meted out to transgender women, it will end up affecting cisgender women like Dakota Davidson who don't look feminine enough for the bigots. Everyone disapproving or suspicious of transgender women would do well to remember that. Bigotry is disgusting in and of itself, and also because some who aren't even the intended target end up receiving collateral damage.

 

[Gralin]

'I'm proud of how I look': Lions star hits back at body shamers

Dakota Davidson is proud of her appearance, but hateful comments about how she looks have caused the talented forward so much anxiety she's now nervous to use public female restrooms

www.afl.com.au

I've said it before and I'll say it again, whatever mistreatment is meted out to transgender women, it will end up affecting cisgender women like Dakota Davidson who don't look feminine enough for the bigots. Everyone disapproving or suspicious of transgender women would do well to remember that. Bigotry is disgusting in and of itself, and also because some who are even the intended target end up receiving collateral damage.

Statistically it's going to affect more cis women than trans women too but the campaigners don't care about that either

 

[Chadwiko]

Hey Gralin what are the site-wide rules regarding people posting anti-trans shit?

 

[Gralin]

Hey Gralin what are the site-wide rules regarding people posting anti-trans shit?

Not on, if you've seen something report it, if you're not happy with the response open a support ticket to Supers and Admin so we've got visibility and can review

 

[Johnny Bananas]

 

[Johnny Bananas]

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

A ban on puberty blockers as a treatment for gender dysphoria has been overturned in Queensland. From my understanding they tried sneaking the ban in without consulting with medical professionals and/or health services;

Court overturns Queensland's controversial January puberty blocker ban

Queensland controversially barred public doctors from prescribing puberty blockers to patients aged under 18 earlier this year.

www.abc.net.au

October 28, 2025

A court has set aside the Queensland government's controversial freeze on puberty blockers for adolescents.

In January, Queensland Health Director-General David Rosengren issued a health service directive banning public doctors from prescribing puberty blockers and hormones to new child patients with gender dysphoria.

The mother of a trans teenager mounted a legal challenge that was heard in the Supreme Court in Brisbane – arguing the directive was unlawful because the correct processes had not been followed.

Supreme Court judge Peter Callaghan handed down his 14-page decision today in a courtroom packed with trans rights supporters.

In his written decision, Justice Callaghan said the proceedings were not concerned with the merits of the directive.

"They are concerned solely with the legal requirements that attend any decision of this nature, irrespective of the subject matter," he said.

Lawyers for the mother successfully argued that Dr Rosengren had issued the directive without consulting with Queensland's hospital and health services...

 

[liz]

A ban on puberty blockers as a treatment for gender dysphoria has been overturned in Queensland. From my understanding they tried sneaking the ban in without consulting with medical professionals and/or health services;

I don’t pretend to understand how the law and politics intersect on an issue like this - the Q government has reinstated the ban. Did they hurriedly undertake the necessary consultation?

Woman who overturned Queensland’s puberty blocker ban ‘not backing away from the fight’ after LNP reinstates it

Exclusive: Parent who successfully challenged previous ban on children being prescribed hormones for gender dysphoria considers new lawsuit

www.theguardian.com

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I don’t pretend to understand how the law and politics intersect on an issue like this - the Q government has reinstated the ban. Did they hurriedly undertake the necessary consultation?

Woman who overturned Queensland’s puberty blocker ban ‘not backing away from the fight’ after LNP reinstates it

Exclusive: Parent who successfully challenged previous ban on children being prescribed hormones for gender dysphoria considers new lawsuit

www.theguardian.com

No, the consultation was sidestepped yet again. I've bolded the key points;

Snap new Queensland ban on puberty blockers for transgender adolescents

The Queensland health minister has issued a new directive to ban public doctors from prescribing puberty blockers to youths six hours after a Supreme Court overturned the January freeze.

www.abc.net.au

October 29 2025

...On Tuesday, Supreme Court Justice Peter Callaghan set aside Queensland's controversial pause on the practice, which was issued in January by Queensland Health director-general David Rosengren.

Queensland controversially barred public doctors from prescribing puberty blockers to patients aged under 18 earlier this year.

In a 14-page written judgement, he accepted arguments that Dr Rosengren's health service directive was unlawful because it was made without adequate consultation and at the direction of Mr Nicholls.

But he left the door open for Mr Nicholls to introduce his own directive to the state's hospital and health services.

"The power to issue a direction to the services is not exclusive to the chief executive (Dr Rosengren)," Justice Callaghan wrote.

"The Minister may give a service a direction if he is satisfied it is necessary to do so in the public interest.

"However, if the Minister gives a direction, it must be in writing and published in a way that allows it to be accessed by members of the public."

Justice Callaghan said his decision to set aside Dr Rosengren's directive was made on legal requirements, rather than on health issues.

"These proceedings do not involve any review of the directive's merits," he wrote.

About six hours after Justice Callaghan handed down his ruling about 11:30am, Mr Nicholls issued his own written directive to pause puberty blockers for new public patients with gender dysphoria under the age of 18.

"I am satisfied it is necessary in the public interest that I give this written directive to the Hospital and Health Services with immediate effect," Mr Nicholls wrote.

"This direction operates on and from 28 October 2025."

So it seems that, in Queensland anyway, you can do what you want on ideological grounds, as long as you write "I am satisfied this is in the public interest".

I hope this can be challenged again in the courts.

 

[Gralin]

No, the consultation was sidestepped yet again. I've bolded the key points;



So it seems that, in Queensland anyway, you can do what you want on ideological grounds, as long as you write "I am satisfied this is in the public interest".

I hope this can be challenged again in the courts.

thats the point right

didnt follow process

fought it court

had another go not following process ready to go

someone has to go to court again to challenge it again

so they're just withholding care out of spite

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

thats the point right

didnt follow process

fought it court

had another go not following process ready to go

someone has to go to court again to challenge it again

so they're just withholding care out of spite

That's the long and the short of it, yeah. Hoping to drag it out in the courts until the challengers run out of money.

 

[Gough]

Crisifulli is literally and metaphorically the son of a Karen.

 

[Gralin]

That's the long and the short of it, yeah. Hoping to drag it out in the courts until the challengers run out of money.

i mean they've ignored the review done under the previous government that came out just before they gained power

so expert opinion not important

they've not followed correct process twice

so following the rules is not important

don't care about the legality of it

so rule of law is not important

they're saying they will force their views on the public regardless of whether its valid or legal and they will do it without following the rules


nobody should be happy about this

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

i mean they've ignored the review done under the previous government that came out just before they gained power

so expert opinion not important

they've not followed correct process twice

so following the rules is not important

don't care about the legality of it

so rule of law is not important

they're saying they will force their views on the public regardless of whether its valid or legal and they will do it without following the rules


nobody should be happy about this

Exactly! This is one hundred percent Conservative Ideology running roughshod over ordinary medical and health procedures.

You cannot get much more blatant than this.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

IOC bans trans women from competing in Olympic Sports ahead of Los Angeles.

 

[Gethelred]

IOC bans trans women from competing in Olympic Sports ahead of Los Angeles.

Link?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Link?

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www.news.com.au

 

[Gralin]

No decision yet on transgender athletes' Games eligibility, IOC says

The International Olympic Committee heard from experts from the Protection of the Female Category working group last week, with a decision set to be made on rules around transgender athletes competing at the Olympics.

www.abc.net.au

ABC has a slightly different take than Murdoch on this

"The working group is continuing its discussions on this topic and no decisions have been taken yet. Further information will be provided in due course."

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

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www.news.com.au

Speculative. Anticipatory. Words doing the heaviest lifting in the 'news' dot com article;

Reportedly
Is set to
Is reportedly set to
But it appears
Could be announced

I mean, it could well happen but until after the fact this article is less news and more 'what we guess might occur'.

 

[Gralin]

Speculative. Anticipatory. Words doing the heaviest lifting in the 'news' dot com article;

Reportedly
Is set to
Is reportedly set to
But it appears
Could be announced

I mean, it could well happen but until after the fact this article is less news and more 'what we guess might occur'.

It's an amazing URL isn't it

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

It's an amazing URL isn't it

Very demonstrative of the Murdoch Mindset!

 

[Johnny Bananas]

The IOC is entitled to do whatever it wants, I just hope they're listening to sports scientists in making their decision. Regardless, it doesn't justify the harassment of trans athletes in youth and school competitions, as increasingly happens in the US and possibly here too.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Im interested....we hear a lot about Trans women in professional sports but rarely anything about trans men...any data?

 

[Gralin]

The IOC is entitled to do whatever it wants, I just hope they're listening to sports scientists in making their decision. Regardless, it doesn't justify the harassment of trans athletes in youth and school competitions, as increasingly happens in the US and possibly here too.

I feel like there is zero chance you will see a trans athlete at the US Olympics regardless on whether there is a ban or not given what's happening in America currently

But the chance of the IOC caving to pressure from the US isn't insignificant either

 

[Beerfish]

Speculative. Anticipatory. Words doing the heaviest lifting in the 'news' dot com article;

Reportedly
Is set to
Is reportedly set to
But it appears
Could be announced

I mean, it could well happen but until after the fact this article is less news and more 'what we guess might occur'.

It was written by afl media??