Transgender

[Gralin]

Discussion continuing in Part 2 found here

Transgender - Part 2

Please be aware that the tolerance of anti-trans language on BF is at an all-time low. Jokes and insults that are trans-related, as well as anti-trans and bigoted rhetoric will be met with infractions, threadbans etc as required. It's a sensitive (and important) topic, so behave like...

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[kirsti]

Thankyou Geelong you are definitely one player that is always respectful and always plays the ball not the man.

Yes sometimes the hate gets to me one poster on this thread in particular projected his hate, ignorance and anger at me and I am sure he will return under another guise.

 

[Appa]

He called a woman a "eunuch in a dress", he was crass, offensive, and wrong.

You are so hurt by a few crass words yet have no problem in slandering me. Well done.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

You are so hurt by a few crass words yet have no problem in slandering me. Well done.

What's more, offensive, is, his, inability, to, use comm,,as co,rrectly.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

What's more, offensive, is, his, inability, to, use comm,,as co,rrectly.

Ever heard of an 'Oxford comma', herc?

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/what-is-the-oxford-comma

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Ever heard of an 'Oxford comma', herc?

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/what-is-the-oxford-comma

Yes, but you don't use it in 'fish, and chips', and then not know to use it when speaking to someone, do you, GS?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Yes, but you don't use it in 'fish, and chips', and then not know to use it when speaking to someone, do you, GS?

I think it's only used after three or more words in a list, as in "crass, offensive, and wrong". It's not a commonly-taught rule though, so it's more than understandable that you hadn't come across its use before

 

[kwikfix]

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[scoccerroos]

It might have something to do with the changing hormonal levels in post-op transgender patients. A Korean study found a similar spike in the suicide rate of post-menopausal women on Hormone Replacement Therapies

https://www.researchgate.net/public...xamination_Survey_KNHANES_V_from_2010_to_2012

Could very well be true. I have no idea. Nevertheless, it's still an imperfect treatment.

I would love to respectively talk about the subject Transgender, in sport, bathroom use, pro nouns, transgender being the new black etc. Transgender debate has become the most contentious social issue in recent years, bathroom use, sport and transgender children being the most contentious issues.

On the issue of bathrooms, may I ask why you care? Also, how would you change the current system? On the issue of pronouns, what position is there to have? Obviously you can't force people to address you a certain way not of their own volition. It's up to the individual to decide which pronoun they use while addressing you. Am I missing something? If so, please explain your position.

 

[kirsti]

Could very well be true. I have no idea. Nevertheless, it's still an imperfect treatment.



On the issue of bathrooms, may I ask why you care? Also, how would you change the current system? On the issue of pronouns, what position is there to have? Obviously you can't force people to address you a certain way not of their own volition. It's up to the individual to decide which pronoun they use while addressing you. Am I missing something? If so, please explain your position.

On the issues of bathrooms why do I care and pronouns?

I care a great deal because I was the victim of a gang rape . I care because I don't want others to be sexually assaulted in the future just because they are a transgender person.

 

[perthblue]

not really seeing the connection...

 

[kirsti]

Geelong_Sicko said: ↑


It might have something to do with the changing hormonal levels in post-op transgender patients. A Korean study found a similar spike in the suicide rate of post-menopausal women on Hormone Replacement Therapies

Post Operative a male to female trans person requires the least amount of HRT omf the trans persons transition. Testosterone is not produced anymore and thus anti androgens testosterone blockers are no longer required to be taken. Also post operative the amount of oestrogen needed can be halved.

The early stages of HRT causes the most severe changes in hormonal levels. Post Operative trans people achieve extremely stable hormonal levels.

 

[scoccerroos]

On the issues of bathrooms why do I care and pronouns?

I care a great deal because I was the victim of a gang rape . I care because I don't want others to be sexually assaulted in the future just because they are a transgender person.

What does this have to do with bathrooms and pronouns? I'm asking why, specifically, you support these these issues.

 

[kirsti]

What does this have to do with bathrooms and pronouns? I'm asking why, specifically, you support these these issues.

I support that everyone should be able to use bathrooms. I support to call people by their preferred pro noun.

 

[quotemokc]

If I was a parent I would not want men to able to go into the women's bathroom if my daughter was in there just because they say that they identify as a woman.

 

[kirsti]

If I was a parent I would not want men to able to go into the women's bathroom if my daughter was in there just because they say that they identify as a woman.

Neither would I.

 

[Taylor]

I know that the biggest risk to my six year old step daughter is statistically her father, an uncle, family friend etc.. Not a random guy taking a pee.

 

[kirsti]

I know that the biggest risk to my six year old step daughter is statistically her father, an uncle, family friend etc.. Not a random guy taking a pee.

Over 98% of sexual abuse against children cases the perpetrator is a closely related male family member or person in authority ie Father, Brother, Uncle, Cousin, Priest, School Teacher, Sports Coach etc.

 

[scoccerroos]

I support that everyone should be able to use bathrooms. I support to call people by their preferred pro noun.

That's great! But I still don't see the problem. You can already use a public bathroom and you can already call people by their preferred pronouns. So there is no issue?

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Hey Chief, is there any chance you can find out how many likes dazza68 has made? He has been a member since 2007 and only made 48 posts. I swear he has made 48 thousand likes though.

It makes me feel appreciated

Yep. Shout out to dazza68
Has contributed greatly to my likes on more than one account. Seems like one to appreciate logic and objectivity. Would have a beverage with in real life.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

I know that the biggest risk to my six year old step daughter is statistically her father, an uncle, family friend etc.. Not a random guy taking a pee.

They like to group stepfathers as fathers when keeping many of these statistics which can give a misleading result. One obvious one being more women kill their biological children than men so to obscure this inconvenient truth some agencies pretend male intimate partners of the mother(who heavily disproportionately kill children who are not theirs biologically) are "fathers".

"Step fathers" are very heavily disproportionate sexual abuse perpetrators per capita when compared to biological fathers.

 

[kwikfix]

Yep. Shout out to dazza68
Has contributed greatly to my likes on more than one account. Seems like one to appreciate logic and objectivity. Would have a beverage with in real life.

Afraid he will cop a red card like all the others on the wrong side of Marxist.

 

[TimmeT]

Over 98% of sexual abuse against children cases the perpetrator is a closely related male family member or person in authority ie Father, Brother, Uncle, Cousin, Priest, School Teacher, Sports Coach etc.

Have you got a good source to back this?

 

[TimmeT]

I know that the biggest risk to my six year old step daughter is statistically her father, an uncle, family friend etc.. Not a random guy taking a pee.

Respectfully disagree. Have had unknown homosexual males look at me peeing on more than one occasion, caught them looking and have observed them pleasing themselves at the same time.

 

[TimmeT]

I support that everyone should be able to use bathrooms. I support to call people by their preferred pro noun.

Forcing people to call others by their preferred pronoun is ridiculous. Just look at the Peterson situation in Canada. At least he stood up for what's right

 

[Gough]

Respectfully disagree. Have had unknown homosexual males look at me peeing on more than one occasion, caught them looking and have observed them pleasing themselves at the same time.

Where does this happen? Asking for a friend. Seriously though dude, if that's happening to you at urinals you're probably hanging out in the wrong sort of places.