MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[raptalia]

Apparently the AFL is yet to make a decision on this week's game v Freo. Unless of course that decision was made in the last hour...

Port's Powell-Pepper feels the wrath of AFL's tougher stance on high hits with lengthy suspension

Port Adelaide's Sam Powell-Pepper becomes the first victim of the AFL's tougher stance on high bumps, after being handed a four-match suspension for his hit on Adelaide’s Mark Keane in an AFL practice match.

www.abc.net.au

Reading the above article one could be forgiven for thinking that Sam Powell Pepper was responsible for Angus Brashaw's early retirement. Linking the two is gutter journalism imo.

If the AFL was anything approaching professional it would have the ambit of the penalty worked out. There should be no need to piss about deciding if this week's practice game counts in the four weeks. The AFL are past masters of shutting the stable door after the horse has done a runner, what about a bit of pro active thinking?

 

[Sewer de Lance]

Yes and any player who was smart and paying attention would've realised this already and stopped running into contests in the way Powell-Pepper routinely does.

So on 99% of occasions when he hits the contest hard you probably stand up and applaud, but when he gets it slightly wrong he’s dumb and over zealous?

 

[Jojay]

So he can't play in the trial game and he still misses the opening 4 matches? * off.

Then he misses another week because of stupid 0 round or whatever they're calling it.

So effectively sitting out for 6 weeks? Wow.

 

[Capital Power]

Trial by media. Hang on a sec, don't we have a board member who runs a media company? What's his view?

 

[Del80659]

cancel ur membership

 

[SC_Power]

A little different to the suspensions handed out last year, good to see AFL cracking down on head high contact. Like all, Let's see if they maintain the rage.

Look at the first incident on this compilation from last year that I think only copped a week.

 

[Scodges]

So on 99% of occasions when he hits the contest hard you probably stand up and applaud, but when he gets it slightly wrong he’s dumb and over zealous?

Don’t forget dirty thug.


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[Interstater]

Trial by media. Hang on a sec, don't we have a board member who runs a media company? What's his view?

 

[Magpiespowaz]

Damn, the ...And Justice For All remake blows chunks

 

[thundercloud]

4 games imo is about correct weight with the concerns about concussion. Club support for a team does not come into appraisal of any player given a significant penalty.

 

[PAFC66]

Are we appealing or rolling over again ?

 

[PAFC66]

4 games imo is about correct weight with the concerns about concussion. Club support for a team does not come into appraisal of any player given a significant penalty.

There's been concerns re concussion for a while now yet inconsistent suspensions

 

[PAFC66]

That's irrelevant.

Just because someone has a harder head and needs more force to be knocked out doesn't concern the MRO/Tribunal system.

A concussion is a concussion, that means the impact is severe if the player doing the action to concuss the other person, has committed a reportable offence.

If you are talking about McCartin and Marshall at the SCG, McCartin has a "soft head" for want of a better phrase, and Marshall did nothing that was a reportable offence. A bump to the head is a reportable offence.

You do realise how many concussions in a game don't get diagnosed and are completely missed right?
Murphy had a soft head yet rioli got suspended?
McAdam broke a jaw (no scat test performed) after getting collected high by a Sydney player in round 23 and only received 2 weeks?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

You do realise how many concussions in a game don't get diagnosed and are completely missed right?

You do realise that the MRO can only make a decision based on the evidence he has from the vision, and he can only make a ruling based on an action being a reportable offence, not some minor concussion that barely registers and has nothing to do with a reportable offence.

He sees a concussion from a reportable offence, therefore he says severe impact, then the lawyers can argue it out.

 

[Festerz]

So he can't play in the trial game and he still misses the opening 4 matches? * off.

Then he misses another week because of stupid 0 round or whatever they're calling it.

The Fox story was ambiguous but this just now:

We have to ask the permission of the AFL to allow SPP to play on Friday. How feckin cooked is that.



I would imagine they will just give Sam a break from the club rather than put him under more public scrutiny and tell him to come back to training next week.

(remember what Channel Seven and that shameful Elspeth Hussey did at Unley Oval when he played in the SANFL while serving a suspension for inappropriate behaviour?)

We need to sort out a game plan without him for the next month anyway so why bother.

 

[PAFC66]

If intention is irrelevant now and mitigating circumstances are not heard by the AFL then if players are concussed in training in similar incidents like this then I assume they'll also be suspended if they're cited and there's vision?

 

[PAFC66]

AFL... Sorry Laura Kane has just decided to make another rule on the spot..
Players can't service suspensions in practice games.
The fact that there wasn't even a black and white rule written prior to this incident is hilarious.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If intention is irrelevant now and mitigating circumstances are not heard by the AFL then if players are concussed in training in similar incidents like this then I assume they'll also be suspended if they're cited and there's vision?

You pressume wrong.

Look at the Rohan on Cameron incident I posted a video of from last year a page or two back.

 

[PAFC66]

Pickett was made an example of and umpired out of the game...
SPP appears to be the next one that's been made an example of and likely umpired out of the game

Interesting

 

[PAFC66]

You pressume wrong.

Look at the Rohan on Cameron incident I posted a video of from last year a page or two back.

You can find a incident that supports your argument and I can't find one that supports mine...it's an absolute raffle.
It just shows what a kangaroo court this is
If every bump to the head that results in concussion all gets minimum 4 weeks all year then cool but we know it won't.

 

[Interstater]

Should Port sit out any other players this week to ensure they don't get suspended?

 

[RossFC]

Powell-Pepper should be able to play the trial against Freo, and then play SANFL trials vs North Adelaide and South Adelaide.

 

[PAFC66]

Powell-Pepper should be able to play the trial against Freo, and then play SANFL trials vs North Adelaide and South Adelaide.

I don't agree that they should be able to play any trial games or serve their suspension in preseason but the fact that the club had to ask and the AFL hadn't enacted a written rule re this before the season started shows how amateur this organisation is. Laura Kane is a laughing stock already.

 

[PowerLil]

Poor ol' Rosemary didn't go to the game last Friday because she "knEW ThIS woULd HApPeN". Just **** off you stupid ol' bag.

 

[StueyDaDew]

Oh well, you know how the old saying goes. 'You get what you deserve.'

At least Pepps will be all fresh'n up for the tough run of clashes in April & May.