MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[Spadge]

I look forward to this context being applied consistently throughout the year.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Not sure where this claim that all concussions are automatically rules as 'severe impact' but I just can't see where this is the case under current MRO classification rules. It's the medical report detailing the nature of the concussion which makes it so.

However, it seems obvious to me that the MRO will now be guided by the recently revised AFL guidelines to the tribunal with regard to head knocks and community expectations and will therefore rate any concussion as being severe impact.e

Common sense if you read the tribunal guidelines.

The AFL doesn't have the guts to say Concussion = Severe in black and white, because they want wriggle room, but they do say "The absence of injury does not preclude the classification of impact as Severe" ergo a concussion is about as severe as it gets.

 

[manureid]

Pretty incredible that they accept Pep wasn't looking to bump and was trying to tackle, that he made a reflex action as Keane was slung in to him, and still got 4 weeks.

If they really do use that as the standard this year by round 20 a lot of clubs will be struggling to field a team. Let's see what happens.

You know that wont be the standard. s**t gets made up depending on who it is and when it is and nobody ever has to answer to it. And everyone just keeps handing over hard earned and frollicking along to the ball sport equivalent to the WWE

 

[OneGreatClub]

4 weeks because he’s playing for a non Vic side.

Out for a fifth of the season basically. Well if this is the standard by which all infringements will be judged going forward then so be it. But we shall see.

 

[PAFC66]

Pretty incredible that they accept Pep wasn't looking to bump and was trying to tackle, that he made a reflex action as Keane was slung in to him, and still got 4 weeks.

If they really do use that as the standard this year by round 20 a lot of clubs will be struggling to field a team. Let's see what happens.

You can't protect yourself. Period.
You have to run at the ball like a seagull or you're in trouble

 

[PAFC66]

Out for a fifth of the season basically. Well if this is the standard by which all infringements will be judged going forward then so be it. But we shall see.

Doesn't the preseason game count as 1 week?

 

[manureid]

SPP on the back of another mind bending suspension like his 3 weeks for being in a nightclub. Dude must have been caught spanking the Mum of some high ranking AFL official.

 

[PAFC66]

SPP on the back of another mind bending suspension like his 3 weeks for being in a nightclub. Dude must have been caught spanking the Mum of some high ranking AFL official.

The AFL and media cheerleaders love making an example and especially if they're indigenous.
The way they used to speak about Byron Pickett was as if he'd murdered someone.

 

[Jonts]

Common sense if you read the tribunal guidelines.

The AFL doesn't have the guts to say Concussion = Severe in black and white, because they want wriggle room, but they do say "The absence of injury does not preclude the classification of impact as Severe" ergo a concussion is about as severe as it gets.


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But concussion isnt Linear, there is plenty of factors involved
What will knock person A out, will make person B have a headache and person C will have no acute affects. Its a backwards way of looking at it



Nor in this case was all the force SPPs fault instead of Rioili's

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

But concussion isnt Linear, there is plenty of factors involved
What will knock person A out, will make person B have a headache and person C will have no acute affects. Its a backwards way of looking at it



Nor in this case was all the force SPPs fault instead of Rioili's

What does that even mean? If you are concussed you are concussed. The AFL don't care, they want to eliminate concussion.

 

[PAFC66]

What does that even mean? If you are concussed you are concussed. The AFL don't care, they want to eliminate concussion.

They can't. No matter what.
It's like saying the government wants to eliminate crime

 

[Hot Port]

SPP is reckless. Our lawyer sucks. And we must appeal,

 

[Jonts]

What does that even mean? If you are concussed you are concussed. The AFL don't care, they want to eliminate concussion.

Carn REH

Talking about impact

Concussion isnt Linear
Meaning that the impact needed for a concussion isnt linear

I even provided a paragraph below that for you..

 

[Sewer de Lance]

2 weeks for the actual bump, 1 week for Brayshaw & another week for the AFL concussion lawsuit, that’s 4 in total.

This game just gets better every year.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Good to know the Vic media sets the tribunal penalties.

 

[Nemisis]

Looking forward to how consistent the tribunal will be this year. Pep was careless but it is as close to a footy accident as you will get. He had no intention of causing harm. Four weeks for an unfortunate accident, cant wait to see what a deliberate hit gets from the tribunal.

 

[RossFC]

If Powell-Pepper is allowed to play AFL trial games, surely that means he can play SANFL trials as well?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Carn REH

Talking about impact

Concussion isnt Linear
Meaning that the impact needed for a concussion isnt linear

I even provided a paragraph below that for you..

That's irrelevant.

Just because someone has a harder head and needs more force to be knocked out doesn't concern the MRO/Tribunal system.

A concussion is a concussion, that means the impact is severe if the player doing the action to concuss the other person, has committed a reportable offence.

If you are talking about McCartin and Marshall at the SCG, McCartin has a "soft head" for want of a better phrase, and Marshall did nothing that was a reportable offence. A bump to the head is a reportable offence.

 

[Harlott]

Why are people asking for consistency?
A) each situation is different.

B) afl

 

[tribey]

Looking forward to how consistent the tribunal will be this year. Pep was careless but it is as close to a footy accident as you will get. He had no intention of causing harm. Four weeks for an unfortunate accident, cant wait to see what a deliberate hit gets from the tribunal.

Compare it to the Mackay-Clark incident from a few years ago (where Mackay rightly got off based on the laws/interpretations of the day despite Hunter Clark’s face and skull being obliterated).

0 weeks for buttoning up upon getting to a contest a fraction late off a West Indian fast bowler’s run-up.

4 weeks for stiffening at seeing an opposition player getting slung in your direction in close.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Why are people asking for consistency?
A) each situation is different.

B) afl

There never has and never will be consistency in the law courts, so why would you expect consistency from an AFL tribunal that is set up like a quasi legal system?

and the AFL doesn't state up front that the system is set up to be as consistent as possible and precedent and other incidents are viewed so that a like for like comparison can be made.

 

[davesnothere]

Actually. 4 weeks plus 2 Sanfl games to get back to speed.

6 weeks.

 

[Festerz]

Last season the AFL asked for four-week suspensions for several high bumps - including Toby Nankervis on Jake Lloyd

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, and Jordan De Goey on Elijah Hewett - but the players each received three weeks from the AFL Tribunal.

There is no way in hell that Sam Powell Pepper gets suspended for 4 weeks if Angus Brayshaw

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did not announce his forced retirement from football last week.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Our legal defences in the past have been befuddling at times, but they can't be blamed this time.

The AFL was always going to give him 4 games and the Victorian media laid the groundwork in the lead up.

Ralph, Whately, King all went in studs up knowing they had the full endorsement of the WWFL.

 

[tribey]

Actually. 4 weeks plus 2 Sanfl games to get back to speed.

6 weeks.

And that’s if his confidence isn’t shot to pieces and he’s still effective at what he does now that he’ll be timid and second-guessing everything.