Umpires

[Svenny]

Mate, no one is crucifying the guy for making a mistake - we're all just pissed off that it was such a shocking bounce, which we all know should have been recalled, and it wasn't.

And I don't bounce a footy for a living, I don't need to be able to do it.

The umpiring was rubbish, you got dudded five points, we got screwed alot more than that.

whenit bounced surely its still a 50-50 ball....imagine if it had gone your way would you being saying the same thing...I know it hurts to lose but that didnt coast you the game....in fact you didnt do a lot wrong really

name the decions you are talking about please, what decision were you dudded on....

Glass on Birdman was it was probably a free......the 2 holding the balls were not...the goal wasnt a goal....count was 18-17

 

[Svenny]

Mate, no one is crucifying the guy for making a mistake - we're all just pissed off that it was such a shocking bounce, which we all know should have been recalled, and it wasn't.

And I don't bounce a footy for a living, I don't need to be able to do it.

The umpiring was rubbish, you got dudded five points, we got screwed alot more than that.

I dnt think it has to be recalled...thats a rule I'll check for you but my undertanding that IT DOESNT need to be recalled....again thats a rules thing not a decision thing.....

 

[King Elvis]

I dnt think it has to be recalled...thats a rule I'll check for you but my undertanding that IT DOESNT need to be recalled....again thats a rules thing not a decision thing.....

Doesn't need to, but should have been.

What's meant to be a neutral contest became completely in your favour.

Didn't cost us the game, but it's frustrating as hell.

You can't reverse a poor in the back decision or anything, but for such an obvious mistake, it should've come back.

 

[Svenny]

Doesn't need to, but should have been.

What's meant to be a neutral contest became completely in your favour.

Didn't cost us the game, but it's frustrating as hell.

You can't reverse a poor in the back decision or anything, but for such an obvious mistake, it should've come back.

you cant make up rules on the spot though...I am 100% sure it doesnt have to be recalled.....should and do ar grey areas...look I understand your anger but it would have made no difference probably

be proud your blokes are a great side...your time will come....

 

[Bestbird]

But **** me the umpiring was a joke. First that horrible center bounce which resulted in a Wea-girl goal

Don't blame the Umpire, The two Crows players that missed tackles allowing Cousins to get the clearance caused the goal

, the 50m penalty against Bock which resulted in a Eagles goal

He was clearly over the mark

and that stupid free to Stenglein in the last 20 seconds which resulted in a Coasters goal and soon their margin is down to a chilly -2 points

The replay showed the infringement for high contact

 

[rayven]

Ok there was a clear goal umpiring error today which was a goal to west coast that was awarded touched.....how come no ones mentioned that here...
...leave it with you to discuss

AS with all games umpires make mistakes.

West Coast got around the neck tackles that were not paid,that goal in the last quarter signalled a point(although that was a goal umpire decision and we are on about the field umpires) and all teams get that.

In bold as well.

 

[rayven]

..imagine if it had gone your way would you being saying the same thing...

Now imagining things is really Rational hey.

 

[rayven]

you cant make up rules on the spot though...I am 100% sure it doesnt have to be recalled.....should and do ar grey areas...look I understand your anger but it would have made no difference probably

..

Highlighted on WLF this year about when poor bounces are recalled,this Poor Bounce resulted directly in a goal at a critical time.

But it makes no difference in even attempting to explain to you.

 

[Glenno23]

These are the mistakes as i saw it for both sides:

Adelaide:

1. Holding the ball in the 3rd qtr when the eagles player was tackled in our attacking square, after attempting to handball, then changed his mind and dropped it
2. Burton getting grabbed over the shoulder on the cusp of half time
3. Porps getting pinged for across the arms i think?? when he clearly hit the ball
4. I thought the free in the dying seconds, while technically may have been right, was soft. We were playing a prelim right?
5. Bassett not getting a 50 meter penalty after the free kick and the eagles players continued down field with 2 more possessions
6. Bock getting done for a 50 metre penalty. did anyone hear the ump mark the spot or ask him to move back?

WC

1. Lynch's "Point" It was a goal
2. Burton leaping into Hunter and missing everything
3. Johncock doing the same as Burton, no eyes for the footy. Took an eagle out

That's all i can think of, if anyone has more that i missed. please add.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

As a westcoast fan i thought the umpiring favoured you in the fist half by the way side and took the flush out of the good playing time we had esp in the second quarter. For the second half we did get the wood on the free side but it was not major. It's all about bias.

 

[Jakko]

I can almost hear Leigh Colbert crying about "that mark" from here.....

 

[jenny61_99]

ask you 2 questions

1 how many skill errors do players make in a game of footy....??...the ump made a skill error....it wasnt a bad decision.....it was like a hundred skill erors players make all the time...

2..go to a park and try and bounce a footy...its bloody hard....give the guy a break....

That isolated skill error wasnt the point here. In a game that was so close, that skill error (along with all the others) and the fact that the umpire COULD have called it back and re-bounced it but didnt, contributed to the change in momentum of the game which in the end cost us.

I can guarantee WC supporters would be screaming the same thing had this result gone the other way for the same reasons.

 

[Rangie]

Bias is a funny thing. You guys thought you got the rawdeal, well I'll tell you, I was screaming at the umpires the whole game. When Burton was given a free kick right in front early on after doing an impression of an Italian soccer player and diving to the ground, f**k, I just about put the remote through the TV. There were numerous ticky touchwood decisions and inconsistencies in the game. The holding the ball rule was poorly and inconsistently applied. Players jumping into players going for the mark has been red-hot this year but was forgotten about yesterday and so on.

In the end, West Coast had superior run, Adelaide could not sustain the backline superflood they had going in the first half as well as still missing some key players, we got players free up forward and won the game. Its the way it goes.

 

[Macca19]

These are the mistakes as i saw it for both sides:

6. Bock getting done for a 50 metre penalty. did anyone hear the ump mark the spot or ask him to move back?

Just because it didnt get picked up on the microphone doesnt mean he never asked him.

 

[*PAF]

I cannot speak for the first half as I only got to see it in glimpses.
Saw the whole second half and the umpiring was no worse than in 99% of all AFL games I have seen. In other words that is not why you lost.

 

[Fred Phillis]

don't blame the umps.
don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread (can't be bothered reading through all the whinges to be honest) but here's what neil craig said post-match:
"I don't take issues with free kicks. If I sit here as a coach and start to talk about umpiring decisions in determining the destiny of this footy club, it's pretty poor - we need to be better than that."

We supporters need to be better than that too

 

[morell]

These are the mistakes as i saw it for both sides:

Adelaide:

1. Holding the ball in the 3rd qtr when the eagles player was tackled in our attacking square, after attempting to handball, then changed his mind and dropped it
2. Burton getting grabbed over the shoulder on the cusp of half time
3. Porps getting pinged for across the arms i think?? when he clearly hit the ball
4. I thought the free in the dying seconds, while technically may have been right, was soft. We were playing a prelim right?
5. Bassett not getting a 50 meter penalty after the free kick and the eagles players continued down field with 2 more possessions
6. Bock getting done for a 50 metre penalty. did anyone hear the ump mark the spot or ask him to move back?

WC

1. Lynch's "Point" It was a goal
2. Burton leaping into Hunter and missing everything
3. Johncock doing the same as Burton, no eyes for the footy. Took an eagle out

That's all i can think of, if anyone has more that i missed. please add.

Good post Glenno.

Burton getting pulled down in the crow forward 50 also wasn't a free, but he missed anyway.

The point that was a goal for West Coast was an absolute howler. It was just about on the golf course.

Umpiring in no way affected the result of the game. Reverse the decisions and WC still would have won.

 

[kimirocks]

Reverse the decisions and WC still would have won.

4 points down 15 seconds to go. All we had to do was not have that free kick paid against Edwards, and Goodwing had a good shot a putting the ball on one of our forwards chest. The game could have been one by the kick, no problems, so one simple reversal could have meant an Adelaide win, and thus you are wrong. The umpires were bad, but I don't hold them responsible, they were a contributing factor, but it was Adelaide who let West Coast through the door after half time.

 

[*PAF]

... so one simple reversal could have meant an Adelaide win, and thus you are wrong. ...

Only if you are selective about which one to reverse and which one not to.

 

[JinmboJones]

4 points down 15 seconds to go. All we had to do was not have that free kick paid against Edwards, and Goodwing had a good shot a putting the ball on one of our forwards chest. The game could have been one by the kick, no problems, so one simple reversal could have meant an Adelaide win, and thus you are wrong. The umpires were bad, but I don't hold them responsible, they were a contributing factor, but it was Adelaide who let West Coast through the door after half time.

But you're completely disregarding the fact there was a blatant error made by the goal umpire. You should not have been four points down, more likely 9 or maybe more, who knows?

You can't have it both ways - you can't choose to only count the "incorrect" decisions or non-paid "potential" free kicks to your team without looking at the other side of the ledger.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The umpiring wasn't great, but the simple fact remains that they didn't alter the best team winning on the day.

BTW, any chance of Goldspink retiring - please!

 

[russellthemuscle]

Geez,I"m glad your not going on about the umpires though!

 

[PHX]

The umpires made some bad decisions but it wasnt biased either way to a large extent at any time.

ANd to address the first post.
The first isnt really a decision. You wouldnt care if it had've gone to Adelaide, it was simply crap.

Bocks was 50, thought it was a courageous but correct call.

And Stenglein deserved the free as it was over the shoulder.

 

[lozstar]

Wheather the umpires were a disgrace or not, does not matter.
We just have to get used to it - it's never going to change & Goldspink is always going to be a dirty scumbag.

BUT.. the umpiring does not matter - the fact is WE WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Simple as that.

 

[weagles_fan]

I guess you convienently forgot the holding the ball to Graham?And the non actual goal to Lynch?That is 11 points guaranteed to WC as both were directly related to goals. Some of the ones you complain about are valid, but you complaining about the bounce is a bit of a laugh...it was as much a disadvantage to WC as it was Adelaide.