Roast Umpiring: Corruption or Incompetence, or both

[backtozero]

So is someone at the club going to actually call this shit out?

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

As soon as this slimey campaigner walks into the middle we should just walk off dirtunratbcampaigner

 

[ibd77]

So is someone at the club going to actually call this shit out?

Clearly this was a tactical decision to decide the outcome of a game. There was an intention to prevent one team for competing and play an high pressure game by relieving the opposition with soft calls.

 

[JHF1870]

Clearly this was a tactical decision to decide the outcome of a game. There was an intention to prevent one team for competing and play an high pressure game by relieving the opposition with soft calls.

P.C should be fined for staging. Think it was him

 

[Windy Cindy]

Be a 20 page spread in the advertiser if the crows copped what we copped tonight and what we cop repeatedly

As close to cheating as I’ve seen tonight..

 

[Windy Cindy]

P.C should be fined for staging. Think it was him

Was embarrassed when he watched the replay on screen

 

[ibd77]

Be a 20 page spread in the advertiser if the crows copped what we copped tonight and what we cop repeatedly

As close to cheating as I’ve seen tonight..

It was a premeditated effort to deny one teams game style to favour the opposition. It was netball quality of umpiring where they call contact every 5 seconds.

 

[LeoMessi]

As soon as this slimey campaigner walks into the middle we should just walk off dirtunratbcampaigner View attachment 2296295

Vlad Dracula has replaced McInernie as the AFL plant against Port. Abhorrent umpiring has to be corruption

 

[PJ Power]

Would have been nice for one of our local journos to ask Hinkley and Butters a loaded question about it today. Nicks would have been gifted a Dorothy Dixer about it.

 

[Portwon]

Incontinence bordering on corruption in that game.

When you can't go from contest to contest without wondering what the hell free kick are they going to pay next the game becomes almost unwatchable.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Incontinence bordering on corruption in that game.

When you can't go from contest to contest without wondering what the hell free kick are they going to pay next the game becomes almost unwatchable.

Made me incontinent. At least verbally.

 

[JHF1870]

Watching the replay and it really was as bad as I witnessed.

I want the club to question why we get done for prohibited contact twice but North can smash JHF in the back to provoke him and thats ok.

Also question Paul Curtis for flopping.

 

[JHF1870]

Ffs umpire infront of Finn called a mark and overruled by another umpire

 

[Progressive Aggresion]

Getting umpiring like this at our own home ground tells me that its definitely not an incompetence issue, normally peer pressure from home ground crowds is a factor in that.
It legit feel like the AFL wanted their care package team to have a winning chance after such an insipid performance last week so they could attract more views and coverage. Victorian or not, the AFL always prioritize the outcomes that get the most clicks.

That being said. I wish we'd adjust some of the small things like giving the ball back quicker and setting up behind the ball more efficiently for FAs in our forward half. We seem to open up more easily from frees than we do turnovers and even at times stoppages.

 

[JHF1870]

Getting umpiring like this at our own home ground tells me that its definitely not an incompetence issue, normally peer pressure from home ground crowds is a factor in that.
It legit feel like the AFL wanted their care package team to have a winning chance after such an insipid performance last week so they could attract more views and coverage. Victorian or not, the AFL always prioritize the outcomes that get the most clicks.

That being said. I wish we'd adjust some of the small things like giving the ball back quicker and setting up behind the ball more efficiently for FAs in our forward half. We seem to open up more easily from frees than we do turnovers and even at times stoppages.

Think about this: The more frees you can pay, the more opportunity to influence the game

 

[Chewy316]

North kicked 2 goals from direct 50m penalties. The first from Farrell holding the ball too long was probably there but definitely one of those rules of the week where they suddenly decided to randomly crack down on it without warning. Second 50m from Wines holding the ball too long was ridiculous, compounded by the fact he should have gotten a free for high contact.

Paul Curtis also got a free 50+ metres off the ball directly in front for a dive from a Lachie Jones push that would have made any Brazilian footballer in the favelas extremely proud. Not quite Rivaldo 2002 world cup levels of hysteria, but close.

Then there was the JHF free kick given 50+ metres off the ball, for what looked like a pretty innocuous shoving match. Once the ref blew his whistle was when JHF got his two cents worth. North were further gifted a 50m penalty on top of the free kick for a certain goal.

Lastly, there was the Aliir one where he gets a 50m penalty or spoiling the mark too late, despite making the spoil before the umpire has even blown his whistle to confirm the mark.

In a game where North only kicked 13 goals, 5 were gifted from umpiring decisions, that, on most days, wouldn't be given.

The free kick count wasn't crazy lopsided as we have seen over the years in some games (such as 38-13 in 2013), but when the free kicks given are such momentum changers it really compounds the magnitude of their errors.

I think the best thing to note is that this was one of those games that would have been mentioned in the same vein as 38-13, the Carlton MCG 2015 Robbie Gray

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KO game, the 2016 Carlton game at Etihad, 2018 vs Hawthorn in Tassie etc. But despite such one sided umpiring, Port actually won the game.

Take it, but privately I hope the club lights a rocket up AFL House this week.

 

[GremioPower]

Paul Curtis also got a free 50+ metres off the ball directly in front for a dive from a Lachie Jones push that would have made any Brazilian footballer in the favelas extremely proud. Not quite Rivaldo 2002 world cup levels of hysteria, but close.

Flopping is a skill.

There are good flops and bad flops.

Rivaldo did it right in 2002.

 

[glitch01]

I see Sweet copping a lot of flak for the amount of frees he gives away but a lot of them you can see 2 ruckmen look at each other and they have no idea whose kick it is.

 

[JHF1870]

North kicked 2 goals from direct 50m penalties. The first from Farrell holding the ball too long was probably there but definitely one of those rules of the week where they suddenly decided to randomly crack down on it without warning. Second 50m from Wines holding the ball too long was ridiculous, compounded by the fact he should have gotten a free for high contact.

Paul Curtis also got a free 50+ metres off the ball directly in front for a dive from a Lachie Jones push that would have made any Brazilian footballer in the favelas extremely proud. Not quite Rivaldo 2002 world cup levels of hysteria, but close.

Then there was the JHF free kick given 50+ metres off the ball, for what looked like a pretty innocuous shoving match. Once the ref blew his whistle was when JHF got his two cents worth. North were further gifted a 50m penalty on top of the free kick for a certain goal.

Lastly, there was the Aliir one where he gets a 50m penalty or spoiling the mark too late, despite making the spoil before the umpire has even blown his whistle to confirm the mark.

In a game where North only kicked 13 goals, 5 were gifted from umpiring decisions, that, on most days, wouldn't be given.

The free kick count wasn't crazy lopsided as we have seen over the years in some games (such as 38-13 in 2013), but when the free kicks given are such momentum changers it really compounds the magnitude of their errors.

I think the best thing to note is that this was one of those games that would have been mentioned in the same vein as 38-13, the Carlton MCG 2015 Robbie Gray KO game, the 2016 Carlton game at Etihad, 2018 vs Hawthorn in Tassie etc. But despite such one sided umpiring, Port actually won the game.

Take it, but privately I hope the club lights a rocket up AFL House this week.

AFL: "We've had some discussions on Monday, and it's been apparent that players have been holding up play. We're putting all clubs on notice that we are looking at enforcing those rules"

That's what they could do.......OR officiate the rules as are EVERY SINGLE WEEK

 

[JHF1870]

I see Sweet copping a lot of flak for the amount of frees he gives away but a lot of them you can see 2 ruckmen look at each other and they have no idea whose kick it is.

Agree. IT's total bs. Just let them play with a scrap. I mean if it's clearly a smaller guy full holding onto his opponent then pay it. Soem of the ones I saw tonight were a joke.

 

[Dutchy5150]

Time to bust this one out again...

 

[El_Scorcho]

Yeah that was pretty bad.

The 4 that spring to mind for me are:

38-15 against North in Tassie, the most bullshit umpiring display of the AFL era
The 2007 Heritage Round robbery against the Bulldogs at the Dome. I assume the AFL directed them not to let us win in the bars.
2015 Carlton at the G (24 frees to 10 in a game we lost by 4 points)
2011 Essendon at the Dome - The umps were not letting us win in the last quarter. Just completely took the game away from us with the whistle.

This game absolutely would have been added to this list if we'd lost.

A general rant about the umpires is well overdue from Hinkley or Davies or even Koch.

But what I'd specifically like to be called out is the treatment of JHF. He gets scragged or held at every single ****ing contest and they don't call shit for him. Someone cop a fine and start calling the umps out for it.

 

[Buget]

I see Sweet copping a lot of flak for the amount of frees he gives away but a lot of them you can see 2 ruckmen look at each other and they have no idea whose kick it is.

Ruck frees are a total guess most of the time. But Sweet doesn’t know what to do at the moment.

He has given away 13 frees in the last 3 weeks, to lead the league on 20 frees-against this year. The 13 would have him the 6th most penalised player.

It’s also not like they are going both ways. Xerri gave away 1 yesterday, Grundy 1 last week (which wasn’t a ruck contest) and Meek zero.

I honestly think that umpires guess the first ruck free and just pay it that way all day.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

This game absolutely would have been added to this list if we'd lost.

A general rant about the umpires is well overdue from Hinkley or Davies or even Koch.

But what I'd specifically like to be called out is the treatment of JHF. He gets scragged or held at every single ****ing contest and they don't call shit for him. Someone cop a fine and start calling the umps out for it.

Ken did this in his presser. He'll probably get a fine

 

[Gryllis]

Ken did this in his presser. He'll probably get a fine

Good. As he absolutely should on his way out the door. It's a rare perk of the farewell tour.