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Credit to the team giving it to him and getting around him, but I still fail to see what he offers us in that position. Would love Emile to get half an hour now.
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He is so bereft of confidence his focus is first and foremost not screwing up, so it is all safe passes and conservative plays. Fine. He doesn’t eff anything up, but he isn’t adding any value either.I look at him.... and think of Justin Westhoff.. talent yeah... but always seems like he is...not going 100%
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And I'll add havertz seems scared of making a mistake... does a little run... then just gives it off to someone in a non threatening position but is a simple pass.I look at him.... and think of Justin Westhoff.. talent yeah... but always seems like he is...
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100% agree. I thinks it's then up to Arteta.. to tell him.. U will make mistakes... I don't give a ****... work hard.. do what you do best... and I'll back you.
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Infuriating. No need for Saka to be out there. 3-0. Plenty of options on the bench.
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Feel for Ben White. That headed goal messed up his hair.
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Amazing set of results for us
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Brilliant result, along with the other overnight results. A win against City next weekend (!) and Arsenal could overtake them on the table.
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Haven’t conceded away from home.
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Well our mini injury crisis was Arteta having a laugh. Still would have liked some earlier subs though. Good win last night, very cruisey. I have woken up with the bloody Havertz chant stuck in my head. Much like Saliba's last year, Bournmouth away fans singing all day.
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Havertz song an absolute cracker !
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The away support is consistently great. The corresponding match around this time 12 months ago they coined the Saliba chant, and now this. Outstanding.
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Mikel Arteta praised the "empathy" of his Arsenal players after a first goal for Kai Havertz that he hopes will "change everything" for the forward.
The £65m summer signing from Chelsea had not registered a goal or assist in his first nine games for the Gunners but finally hit the target as he converted a penalty in a 4-0 victory over Bournemouth at the Vitality Stadium.
When the Gunners were two goals to the good, Ryan Christie clattered into Martin Odegaard in the box as Bournemouth gave away their second penalty of the game.
Bukayo Saka, Arsenal's regular penalty taker, had already given the ball to Odegaard to convert the first spot kick. The England forward had the ball in his hand and seemed poised to take the second penalty but then he handed it to Havertz.
Gunners fans held their breath as the much-maligned Germany forward put the ball down on the spot. Much to the joy of the away fans, he slotted into the bottom-left corner of Neto's net and was mobbed by his Arsenal team-mates.
To the tune of Waka Waka by Shakira, Havertz has a chant which ends with "60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again".
"It shows the people we have in that dressing room - what they did for Kai, it was a really moving moment," Arteta said.
"He's going through a period externally - not internally but externally - that he is getting questioned in certain areas.
"For the team to step up and show that empathy as well as that trust towards him, they won my heart even more today that group of players.
"The fact that they can make those decisions, that's leadership and that's accountability. That's what we ask them to do and I'm so glad they made that decision."
Much has been expected of Havertz since his big-money move and so far, according to critics, he has failed to deliver.
His first goal for the club comes in his 10th appearance and it is the first time he has scored in 21 club appearances across all competitions (across spells with Arsenal and Chelsea), with his last goal before this coming in March for Chelsea against Everton.
Former Chelsea defender Frank Leboeuf said "maybe right now on the bench [is his best position] because he doesn't disturb the others" and added "his positioning is going to affect the rest of the midfielders, they are unbalanced because of him and [Martin] Odegaard playing in almost the same line."
Despite Leboeuf's criticism, the 24-year-old has started in midfield alongside Odegaard in five of Arsenal's seven league games. The victory against Bournemouth marks the first time both players have got on the scoresheet, with Odegaard one of the first players to congratulate Havertz after he opened his account for the North London side.
"Probably it will change everything," Arteta replied when asked what the goal could do for Havertz.
"If he had any question marks about how we feel about him, about what he does, I think they are out.
"I think in sport - Usain Bolt said it once - 'I have to train four years to run nine seconds'. Sometimes you have to do a lot and you don't see that.
"In that moment you see it. I think after everything he's been through in the last few weeks that moment is worth all of it, so [I am] really happy for him."
Mikel Arteta praised the "empathy" of his Arsenal players after a first goal for Kai Havertz that he hopes will "change everything" for the forward.
The £65m summer signing from Chelsea had not registered a goal or assist in his first nine games for the Gunners but finally hit the target as he converted a penalty in a 4-0 victory over Bournemouth at the Vitality Stadium.
When the Gunners were two goals to the good, Ryan Christie clattered into Martin Odegaard in the box as Bournemouth gave away their second penalty of the game.
Bukayo Saka, Arsenal's regular penalty taker, had already given the ball to Odegaard to convert the first spot kick. The England forward had the ball in his hand and seemed poised to take the second penalty but then he handed it to Havertz.
Gunners fans held their breath as the much-maligned Germany forward put the ball down on the spot. Much to the joy of the away fans, he slotted into the bottom-left corner of Neto's net and was mobbed by his Arsenal team-mates.
To the tune of Waka Waka by Shakira, Havertz has a chant which ends with "60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz scores again".
"It shows the people we have in that dressing room - what they did for Kai, it was a really moving moment," Arteta said.
"He's going through a period externally - not internally but externally - that he is getting questioned in certain areas.
"For the team to step up and show that empathy as well as that trust towards him, they won my heart even more today that group of players.
"The fact that they can make those decisions, that's leadership and that's accountability. That's what we ask them to do and I'm so glad they made that decision."
'Probably it will change everything'
The external criticism mentioned by Mikel Arteta has been vociferous to say the least.Much has been expected of Havertz since his big-money move and so far, according to critics, he has failed to deliver.
His first goal for the club comes in his 10th appearance and it is the first time he has scored in 21 club appearances across all competitions (across spells with Arsenal and Chelsea), with his last goal before this coming in March for Chelsea against Everton.
Former Chelsea defender Frank Leboeuf said "maybe right now on the bench [is his best position] because he doesn't disturb the others" and added "his positioning is going to affect the rest of the midfielders, they are unbalanced because of him and [Martin] Odegaard playing in almost the same line."
Despite Leboeuf's criticism, the 24-year-old has started in midfield alongside Odegaard in five of Arsenal's seven league games. The victory against Bournemouth marks the first time both players have got on the scoresheet, with Odegaard one of the first players to congratulate Havertz after he opened his account for the North London side.
"Probably it will change everything," Arteta replied when asked what the goal could do for Havertz.
"If he had any question marks about how we feel about him, about what he does, I think they are out.
"I think in sport - Usain Bolt said it once - 'I have to train four years to run nine seconds'. Sometimes you have to do a lot and you don't see that.
"In that moment you see it. I think after everything he's been through in the last few weeks that moment is worth all of it, so [I am] really happy for him."
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Great results for us.
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The Havertz tune is awesome. That was such a great response from the away fans.
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