Up the Arse! Goons Thread

[NTRabbit]

Ox has looked far better than Walcott to me. At least he actually gets the ball and tries to take people on.

And runs himself into a dead end and bad turnover from under his feet every single time.

 

[bok_party]

And runs himself into a dead end and bad turnover from under his feet every single time.

Walcott doesn't even touch the ball. He's been anonymous. I'd rather someone attempt to get the ball and try something than someone who doesn't even get a touch.

 

[undefined]

Was watching AFTV (haha) - one of the fans made the point that Wenger's inability to find Theo's best position in the decade he's been at the club wasn't necessarily his own wrongdoing, but more a sign of an overrated, one dimensional, mediocre Footballer.

Latro I would love Theo to come good and repay the boss' faith, but you're probably right on this one.

 

[glenferry23]

The frustrating thing with Walcott is the gap between his best and worst football. It's massive.

He strung together some damn good games before he got injured, the United one was arguably the best I've seen him play. But then the majority of his games since have been trash.

Yes injuries are always an excuse and its difficult to play your best when its so stop/start. But how long can you keep using the same excuse?

10 years of this. Is it going to get any better?

 

[undefined]

Remember his hat-trick against Newcastle in December 2012? Stellar performance, that was, world class in fact - in the midst of his contract-on-hold saga.

As you say glen, the contrast between good/bad performances with Theo is frustratingly bad. One thing worth noting is his status on the wage bill. Walcott is up there with Ozil and Alexis on 140k p/w (before tax). Wenger being the notoriously frugal man he is post-Highbury wouldn't be instructing Gazidis and co. to negotiate such a substantial offer for Theo if he was anywhere but in our first Xl plans for years to come.

 

[bok_party]

Remember his hat-trick against Newcastle in December 2012? Stellar performance, that was, world class in fact - in the midst of his contract-on-hold saga.

As you say glen, the contrast between good/bad performances with Theo is frustratingly bad. One thing worth noting is his status on the wage bill. Walcott is up there with Ozil and Alexis on 140k p/w (before tax). Wenger being the notoriously frugal man he is post-Highbury wouldn't be instructing Gazidis and co. to negotiate such a substantial offer for Theo if he was anywhere but in our first Xl plans for years to come.

I wonder if having him play off Giroud is the key? Able to play a quick one two with Giroud who is amazing at that kind of interplay and thus allowing Theo's pace to beat the backline.

 

[NTRabbit]

Walcott doesn't even touch the ball. He's been anonymous. I'd rather someone attempt to get the ball and try something than someone who doesn't even get a touch.

Walcott can, in form, occasionally come off the bench, run past an opponent and score. He attempts to get the ball, the Walcott of today tracks back and defends, and while he can't dribble worth a damn, he can still kick and run past a high or tired line.

Chamberlain does nothing but turn the ball over horribly all game, and softens everyone up with a tantalising dribble past 3 or 4 defenders that either ends when he doesn't think to pass fast enough and the next defender simply sticks a foot out and takes it from his toes, or he has a wild slash and sometimes hits the upright.

With a fully fit and available squad, Chamberlain isn't even in the same post code as our first XI, and I think there's a pretty strong argument he doesn't make our League bench either - seven on the bench for me are Ospina, Gibbs, Gabriel, Flamini/Elneny, Walcott, Wilshere, Ramsey; XI are Cech, Monreal, Bellerin, Pert, Koscielny, Coquelin, Cazorla, Alexis, Ozil, Campbell, Giroud.

There's not the remotest doubt in the world that if we were forced to keep one and sell the other, Chamberlain would be the one on his way.

 

[PendlePie]

They're both so useless that I genuinely don't know who's worse.

It's like deciding between raw chicken or mouldy bread for dinner. You're ****** either way and neither hits the spot.

 

[mikeh]

Remember his hat-trick against Newcastle in December 2012? Stellar performance, that was, world class in fact - in the midst of his contract-on-hold saga.

As you say glen, the contrast between good/bad performances with Theo is frustratingly bad. One thing worth noting is his status on the wage bill. Walcott is up there with Ozil and Alexis on 140k p/w (before tax). Wenger being the notoriously frugal man he is post-Highbury wouldn't be instructing Gazidis and co. to negotiate such a substantial offer for Theo if he was anywhere but in our first Xl plans for years to come.

You have got to be kidding, Walcott on the same salary level as Ozil and Alexis??? He is sporadic at best. I do give Ox some leeway because he is still only 22. I read somewhere that Real Madrid have a buy back clause in the transfer agreement for Ozil. I'm wondering if this may be activated if we finish 4th again.

 

[Ozil]

You have got to be kidding, Walcott on the same salary level as Ozil and Alexis??? He is sporadic at best. I do give Ox some leeway because he is still only 22. I read somewhere that Real Madrid have a buy back clause in the transfer agreement for Ozil. I'm wondering if this may be activated if we finish 4th again.

I don't think that's true.

The way I read it, they get the chance to match an offer if we try and sell him to another Spanish club.

 

[mikeh]

I don't think that's true.

The way I read it, they get the chance to match an offer if we try and sell him to another Spanish club.

Thanks for clarifying, I shudder to think how many assists Ozil would have now if he had someone decent at the other end of his passes to stuff them in the net consistently. Giroud is a reasonable striker but misses too many easy ones.

 

[mikeh]

And what are we to do with Mr Wilshire in the summer? You would wonder if he is just a bench player now even when fully fit. I think he needs to move on.

 

[NTRabbit]

And what are we to do with Mr Wilshire in the summer? You would wonder if he is just a bench player now even when fully fit. I think he needs to move on.

We keep him, in case he returns and the Cazorla we know and love does not. He may be injured all the time, but unlike some others we know how good he already is, and could still be, if the injuries went away. We'll never get a fair price for him selling now anyway.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

And what are we to do with Mr Wilshire in the summer? You would wonder if he is just a bench player now even when fully fit. I think he needs to move on.

I thought we should have sold him last summer when city showed interest but would Wenger spend the money anyways ? Or just add it to the cash reserves ?

 

[Latro]

Wenger will not sell Wilshere.

 

[Benno_900]

If there was no HG rule, I'd ditch all our English players.

 

[windyhill]

And runs himself into a dead end and bad turnover from under his feet every single time.

Yep, you watch Ox and you think "how's he going to **** this up" ?

 

[Arsene Wenger]

It really is the same old every year. Falter around this time - slip to 4th/5th - we will have a good month at the end and maybe finish 2nd or 3rd.

Wenger needs to go - it is as simple as that. I do not see us winning the league this year and even less chance in the next few years if he is still in charge.

 

[Latro]

The club is a joke. Charge fans a surcharge for the Barca match.

Wenger has said it is to spend on players. Give me a ****ing break.

 

[PendlePie]

The price hike is unbelievable. The club's arrogance at the minute is insane.

Anybody see Ox having a dance in the tunnel before the warmup? Sums him and the club's attitude up to an absolute tee. Bunch of weak unprofessional ***** bar only a few.

 

[Latro]

The price hike is unbelievable. The club's arrogance at the minute is insane.

Anybody see Ox having a dance in the tunnel before the warmup? Sums him and the club's attitude up to an absolute tee. Bunch of weak unprofessional ***** bar only a few.

A lot of players would dance before warmup. It is meaningless.

 

[PendlePie]

A lot of those players aren't hacks who've contributed nothing to their side for >12 months.

Just adds to the general perception of him, really.

 

[Latro]

It was not like he was going out to play. There is plenty to criticize him for but that is notone of them.

 

[elhadjihenry]

The club is a joke. Charge fans a surcharge for the Barca match.

Wenger has said it is to spend on players. Give me a ******* break.

Has now been withdrawn, shit decision to start with but good to see they actually noticed the fan backlash.

 

[Cruyff14]

In a bit of a rut, sad.