Voss Resigns

[geelong_crazy26]

Let's hope the next Carlton coach is just as successful

But but… Carlton fans were calling up talk back radio saying they are premiership favs for beating Brisbane and geelong in practice games, and Jagga smith will win the brownlow.

 

[RUNVS]

To be honest I don't blame Voss that much as the list was not great when he took over and it still isn't great. Hard to do really well as a coach if you don't have the players needed. I think more of the blame needs to go on the recruiters.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

To be honest I don't blame Voss that much as the list was not great when he took over and it still isn't great. Hard to do really well as a coach if you don't have the players needed. I think more of the blame needs to go on the recruiters.

Voss has had how long to get the list to what he wanted? It's on him. Don't think for two seconds the head coach doesn't have a direct say in who they trade in, they do. This year may be not on him, but it's been nearly 12 months of second half fadeouts. That's coaching mate.

 

[RUNVS]

Voss has had how long to get the list to what he wanted? It's on him. Don't think for two seconds the head coach doesn't have a direct say in who they trade in, they do. This year may be not on him, but it's been nearly 12 months of second half fadeouts. That's coaching mate.

Trades yes, but generally speaking a good coach lets the recruiters do their own thing when it comes to the draft, and Cartlon's draft choices in the last 5 years or so have not been inspiring.

 

[Veer Right]

Saints game was the final nail in the coffin.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Trades yes, but generally speaking a good coach lets the recruiters do their own thing when it comes to the draft, and Cartlon's draft choices in the last 5 years or so have not been inspiring.

Again, the coach would have a say in the the draft choices, yes the recruiters would get some say, but just look at their side and see how many blokes they have traded in during the Voss era, and it is eerily similar to the Crazy Vossy era at the Lions, topping up with C/D graders.

 

[RUNVS]

Saints game was the final nail in the coffin.

Yep, lose to St Kilda and you may as well pack up and go home. There is no coming back from the humiliation, like having a toddler beating you in a game of chess.

 

[joe444]

A quick skim of their past 10 years of trading history = they've brought in an average of 3 players per year from other clubs and, sometimes, then traded them to bring in more.

That seems high.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

It’s really disappointing to see the media hound him out of the job. Complete opposite to Ken and them jumping onboard for years to save him.

I mean look at the list Vossy has to work with. What was he meant to achieve here. Really needed to just invest in that stability and having an experienced figure head at the top.

After all, when you think of Carlton, you think of Voss. Really disappointing to see a club icon treated like this.

I don't think the scenarios are quite the same.

Hinkley took over a bottom 4, cellar dwellar side that was broke. They'd been copping all time record thrashings on field and record low attendance off it. He instantly made them a competitive side, took them to finals in his first season and won coach of the year (which he won again a few years later). 2023 and 2024 were the years supporters were most vocal about him getting sacked (for being given enough time and not having won a flag), with him being told at the end of 2024 that 2025 would be his last season as coach. The thing is, Port did finish top 4 in both those seasons! His main criticism was not getting over the line in Preliminary finals (despite him never having a star-studded list or being amongst the favourites for the flag). He took over a bottom team and never finished lower than 11th again (I'm excluding his last year when he had already been sacked). He was famous for overseeing a side that was consistently competitive and would often win close games (with the players clearly playing for him and liking him). Sure, he may have been given too much time in the end, but he still finished his career with a 59% win record (which is excellent) after taking over a team that had gone at 18% over the preceeding couple of years.

Voss has now had 2 stints as coach for over 200 games and gone at a 45% win rate. He now resigns with them sitting 16th (Hinkley was given his marching orders when they were top 4). He took over a side that was 13th and had some initial success, improving them to 9th, then 5th. Since then, it has all gone downhill, with them sliding back to 8th (very lucky to scrape in), then 11th, now 16th. Carlton have become renowned for losing from dominant positions - often giving up 30-40+ leads week in, week out. I do still think there is an element of misfortune in the sense that Carlton have had issues for decades, they've had some serious injury lists in the last couple of years, the bottom end of their list is quite thin and Voss did oversee some initial improvement/success - but I don't think there are many parallels to Hinkley, who holds a reasonable record despite never achieving the ultimate success.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

On AFL.com as well.

Classic Bulldogs to cop the new coach bounce this week.

It's usually us.

Godspeed, Mof.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Could it just be that they're 1-8 this year, and since Round 17 2024 they are 13 wins, 29 losses and only North, Richmond, Essendon and West Coast have a worse record?

Those 13 wins...

Opponent	Wins
West Coast	3
Essendon	2
Richmond	2
North Melbourne	2
St Kilda	1
Melbourne	1
Port Adelaide	1
Geelong	1

Maybe, but it's the timing of it that intrigues me. Why wait until they play a great 2nd half against Brisbane before they sack him?

 

[bourbons]

Saints game was the final nail in the coffin.

Yep, that game was the death rattle for Vossy and the current leadership group. Just hideous, club destroying stuff.

Probably figured we weren't beating Brisbane even if he quit that week, better chance of the ol' dead cat bounce in Melb against the doggies.

 

[DZ4]

He improved Carlton, took you to a prelim, and as others have mentioned your best coach in a very long time.

You think Carlton was held back by this one guy and the rest is going well?

Not perfect, but better than past choices. Wright is slowly rebuilding but this is a wrong step.

Funny how the narrative constantly changes.

Wasn’t it the 13 win side that fell their way into a prelim after two arsey finals wins where the opposition had more scoring shots?

The story depends on which thread you’re in.

 

[RCAB]

Maybe, but it's the timing of it that intrigues me. Why wait until they play a great 2nd half against Brisbane before they sack him?

I already answered this question in another post in this thread.

 

[joe444]

I already answered this question in another post in this thread.

And I assume it's what SEN reported - he'd been told before the game that his contract would not be renewed?

 

[RCAB]

And I assume it's what SEN reported - he'd been told before the game that his contract would not be renewed?

...

I'm guessing they tried a completely new strategy and game plan last week, and he realised it was infinitely better than what he had put up for the last 3 years. The players even responded better... that tells you everything.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Maybe, but it's the timing of it that intrigues me. Why wait until they play a great 2nd half against Brisbane before they sack him?

Think they had already made the call the week prior but wanted the Hollands thing over and done with. Just more a gut feel than anything though

 

[joe444]

Oh then to clarify - he was told at a dinner before the game by Graeme Wright that he would not be the coach in 2027. (source: SEN)

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It’s really disappointing to see the media hound him out of the job. Complete opposite to Ken and them jumping onboard for years to save him.

I mean look at the list Vossy has to work with. What was he meant to achieve here. Really needed to just invest in that stability and having an experienced figure head at the top.

After all, when you think of Carlton, you think of Voss. Really disappointing to see a club icon treated like this.

That'd be because Ken overachieved with poor lists.

 

[Shane Heard]

The Hollands thing was "game over", they just held it back a few weeks so the two events wouldn't be obviously linked

Yes I think so too.

To be standing on the boundary all game and not know there was something serious wrong with him was unbelievably bad ( clueless) coaching.

 

[tropicaltiger]

This could be the first time there are zero applicants.

There’s not an amount you could put on a piece of paper that would be attractive.

don't worry Gary Ayres will put in his resume and will be on the phone next day expecting an answer

 

[Happy_Neale]

Worse than Ratten, who was unceremoniously dumped for far less underperformance.

Did Ratten get them to a prelim?

 

[Tedeski]

I have heard it from a good source that Charlie Curnow

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is devastated for the Carlton Football Club & Voss.

 

[ray_purchase]

Glad they didnt do this last year when they should have and weren't in the Steven King

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[tropicaltiger]

He should have been let go last season and was a mistake to go with him in 2026
If not for tom lynch kicking 7 behinds Carlton would be winless in 2026
Place needs a bloody good clean out with the stale players currently getting games
Cripps , Mackay , Williams , Saad , McGovern , Fogarty , Motlop , Acres , Haynes , Hollands all need to be let go over the next 2 trade periods

Exactly Carlton new coach needs to do a Blighty at Adelaide 90s and get most you mention to pack their bags and leave ASAP, would add Cerra to your list.