Waking up the AFL - Crows record run of 22 games without playing in MLB

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The following has been run by both a Mod here and also a lawyer to ensure no legal or ethical issues in any way.

This is a serious issue for our club that has bugged me all season and I am calling upon fellow passionate supporters (i.e. you guys on BF) to help ensure this never ever happens again.

Ultimately the following is along the lines of change.org and trust me it DOES make a difference as the emails are received and read. I have had positive feedback from the club (a Senior member) re the below and needing help taking it to the next level.

Basically, we have been screwed (again) by the VFL over fixturing over the last year and a half. Imagine a competition with HALF of all teams based in ONE CITY (the home of footy where the big finals are played) and not being granted ONE GAME for 22 weeks - effectively a whole season!! It is almost impossible to fathom yet this has happened to the Crows. We last played in Melbourne in round 17 last year (7th to last round) playing Hawks at Marvel. Obviously next game vs Pies in round 15 equals 22 games between games...

I have sent the following email to Gillon Mc L and Andrew Dillon in recent weeks and after a related response have followed up with another email yesterday.

I am asking Crows fans to EMAIL THE AFL CEO's with a message about the inequities the crows have faced this year. Please ensure its done in a professional and respectful manner (as mine was - see below). It takes 10 seconds to google what are the contact details/email addresses of the relevant AFL CEO's and please trust me these email address results that come up are 100% accurate.

Ideally we stop infighting here and use our collective will to make positive changes for the club. If dozens of fans email the AFL with a similar message perhaps next year we go back to 6-7 MLB games inc 3-4 at The G and less crap at Ballarat, Tassie, Darwin etc. That MLB (The G) experience is what we will ultimately need to win big finals over coming years. Use your energy - positive or negative - for good. That's my request. My email below and interested in others thoughts on this subject.

Thanks to anyone that makes the effort :)


Hi Gillon and Andrew

Gents, firstly I hope the handover is going well and good luck finding resolutions to a number of the serious and complex issues on your plate – certainly some tough ones. I would appreciate 2 mins of your time reading the following.

As a huge crows fans since day one, many years living in Melbourne, I know the Crows have a huge amount of supporters in Melbourne (historically the best of any interstate team that wasn’t relocated or merged).

In summary, I find it almost impossible to fathom that it can take until Round 15 for my club to play for the FIRST time all year in Melbourne (the first and only time in AFL history this has occurred for any team), finishing with 3 games in total (MLB and COLL at The G, Dons at Marvel.) Its hard to work out when half of all teams are MLB based we cant find one opportunity to actually play one of these teams in MLB until 2/3rds of the season has gone. The fact its actually 22 rounds since round 17 2022 (Hawks at Marvel) to round 15 2023 is a little bewildering to me..

MLB based family and friends looked at the draw this year and said why in the heck would we become Crows members when treated to only 3 games in total for the whole season starting in round 15. Now I know some team has to play in – how do I best put it…- ‘non premium locations’ of Ballarat, Darwin, Launceston and Geelong but it seems blatantly unfair the Crows get these gigs every single year. As a young, attacking and attractive side to watch, and which is clearly on the rise, I do hope this year is the last time we experience such treatment in the draw.

PS I have only once contacted the AFL directly previously after the Crows were ‘drawn’ to play in Perth in the last minor round 4 years out of 8 in a time when there was no pre-finals bye. Not coincidentally it was the grave-yard location for round 22 (often hot and dry grounds) and the one location NO TEAM wished to get in the last minor round. Yet the Crows got it every second year (inc finals years 1998, 2001 and 2005) and then went on to lose the first week of the finals on each occasion including when we were strong favourites playing at home. Perhaps my email at the time played no part in the change to the rostering but anyway thought I would give the draw another few minutes of time this year to again point out what I deem a lopsided and unfair fixturing.

PPS I have included the crows guys above as a FYI to them on why their MLB member numbers are perhaps struggling this year. I have not communicated this issue with any of them at all until this email.

Anyway, all the best and lets hope for a cracking end to an exciting season with the quality of footy played, in many instances, at decade highs (much thanks to the tinkering of the rules by the AFL in recent years – well done).

Regards,
 

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In summary, I find it almost impossible to fathom that it can take until Round 15 for my club to play for the FIRST time all year in Melbourne (the first and only time in AFL history this has occurred for any team),
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4 teams didn't travel to Melbourne in 2020

We went 25 rounds between Rd 19 2019 and Rd 4 2021 without a game in Melbourne.
 

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I wont post on this thread again and will leave at Crows fans discretion whether they bother messaging the AFL CEO's. We have so many passionate supporters that have very strong opinions and I am not sure how any crows fan could seriously question that not playing in Melbourne for 22 rounds straight is equitable, or in the clubs medium-long term interests. People power (as in change.org) DOES work but will let you decide if you want to spend perhaps 5 mins making a point (respectfully) to the AFL CEO's whose emails are obvious (and accurate) to find with a cursory google search (or send me a message and I will pass on if you prefer).

Lastly a quick story to share re 'activism' has been demonstrated to me by an older brother over the years to achieve truly great things. My eldest brother, a staunch environmentalist and now a Greens Councilor in Adelaide, was part of the first wave of global active environmentalism in the early 80's. No internet or mobiles obviously back then but lots of letters in the mail, meetings in person and traditional landline phone calls (ie 100x harder than the modern tech we have available to band together for change these days) ensured hundreds of like minded environmentalists converge on the Franklin in Tasmania, chaining themselves to trees and ultimately stopping the thousands of year old forests from being destroyed (from the Gordon River dam which would have flooded surrounds - I dont remember all specifics but link below). There were waiting bulldozers, hundreds of protesters and police. After visiting this absolutely gorgeous UNESCO sponsored area last year I felt very proud that he being arrested (along with dozens/hundreds of others) DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE on a real big issue. Crows draw clearly is a trivial issue on a relative basis. Franklin Dam controversy - Wikipedia

Enjoy the weekend, cheers
 

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While this is a pretty biased arrangement by the AFL, I don’t think this will be an ongoing issue by next year. We’ve improved now to the point the media is in love with us again, and the AFL would be pretty silly/numb/dumb to keep us away from Melbourne games for a similar sustained period in the foreseeable future.

I hope the club has spoken to the AFL about this issue though. It’s an important one.
 

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While this is a pretty biased arrangement by the AFL, I don’t think this will be an ongoing issue by next year. We’ve improved now to the point the media is in love with us again, and the AFL would be pretty silly/numb/dumb to keep us away from Melbourne games for a similar sustained period in the foreseeable future.

I hope the club has spoken to the AFL about this issue though. It’s an important one.
Yeah quite possibly John but I am just not sure what the negative is though by contacting the AFL and reinforcing the inequity to reduce the chance of it occurring again. The Club Exec who contacted me (I cc'd 4 of them in the email to Gillon and Andrew) did mention they hoped this would be the last year.

And without dong lots of previous years analysis, it seems we seem to get Tassie, Ballarat, Nth Qld/NT, Geelong as much as perhaps any other team over many many years. But like I said I dont have the time to go back and review each teams schedule year after year. Its just when someone posted a thread earlier this year about guessing what the Crows draw would look like and I included 'Tassie, NT, Ballarat, Geelong' unfortunately it was more than just a guess....its been a constant
 

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While this is a pretty biased arrangement by the AFL, I don’t think this will be an ongoing issue by next year. We’ve improved now to the point the media is in love with us again, and the AFL would be pretty silly/numb/dumb to keep us away from Melbourne games for a similar sustained period in the foreseeable future.

I hope the club has spoken to the AFL about this issue though. It’s an important one.

The other issue is crowds - the AFL want to maximise crowds. We play in Melbourne rather than Ballarat - the crowd at Marvel will be 20-30k against the Doggies vs 10k at Ballarat.

Lets see what the crowd vs Collingwood is - I’m predicting 50k+ possibly could be 60k+.
 

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