Wasted Potential

[Viceregal]

Nah I can spot a re-rail opportunity thread...

Is that the going to the hospital after getting beaten up or what happens after they discharge you?

 

[blynd_freddie]

Is that the going to the hospital after getting beaten up or what happens after they discharge you?

Shakes head, either/both... that was the magical mystery tour of the late 60's/70's, kids these days - wasted potential.

 

[geekOnaught]

What about the best 22 Wasted?

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[PertRoosOsborne]

 

[Vipertooth]

Jared Brennan by a mile, could have been an AFL legend if he had a bigger drive, talent to burn. Those one handed tricks will remain in my memory forever.

 

[Skoob]

Jared Brennan by a mile, could have been an AFL legend if he had a bigger drive, talent to burn. Those one handed tricks will remain in my memory forever.

I'm not convinced. I haven't seen any evidence (and we never will) that his "failure" was due only to a lack of application.
Certainly, I think he could have been better and lasted longer, but how much better or more consistent, will remain a mystery. I think it is likely that his "flashes of brilliance" were exactly that, moments when an ordinary player managed to pluck something special/exciting out of his arse.
What I mean is, were those times when he excitingly picked the ball up with one hand, dodge an opponent only to kick off the side of his boot out on the full, really a result of laziness, or did we actually see his best? I think we might have actually seen his best, where he could do some freaky stuff, but wasn't able to do it often or consistently enough.

 

[Jman78]

Depends for me..... if wasted through injury then Josh Drummond, could hit a 5 cent piece at 50 paces.

For me we have 2 guys on our list who could be game breakers being Harwood and Bewick that arent there yet, and maybe dont realise that they could be a c**p load better. Seen glimpses from both and if they stepped it up they both add some x-factor.... just my opinion though and not obvious choices.

 

[carnthemlions]

I'm not convinced. I haven't seen any evidence (and we never will) that his "failure" was due only to a lack of application.
Certainly, I think he could have been better and lasted longer, but how much better or more consistent, will remain a mystery. I think it is likely that his "flashes of brilliance" were exactly that, moments when an ordinary player managed to pluck something special/exciting out of his arse.
What I mean is, were those times when he excitingly picked the ball up with one hand, dodge an opponent only to kick off the side of his boot out on the full, really a result of laziness, or did we actually see his best? I think we might have actually seen his best, where he could do some freaky stuff, but wasn't able to do it often or consistently enough.

It's hard to know, really. I will say this though- he's one of the few players we seen in recent times who could genuinely play every position on the ground effectively.

 

[Skoob]

It's hard to know, really. I will say this though- he's one of the few players we seen in recent times who could genuinely play every position on the ground effectively.

*At times. Could also be a liability.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Bubba

 

[Cockliff38]

I'm not convinced. I haven't seen any evidence (and we never will) that his "failure" was due only to a lack of application.
Certainly, I think he could have been better and lasted longer, but how much better or more consistent, will remain a mystery. I think it is likely that his "flashes of brilliance" were exactly that, moments when an ordinary player managed to pluck something special/exciting out of his arse.
What I mean is, were those times when he excitingly picked the ball up with one hand, dodge an opponent only to kick off the side of his boot out on the full, really a result of laziness, or did we actually see his best? I think we might have actually seen his best, where he could do some freaky stuff, but wasn't able to do it often or consistently enough.

Think there's enough evidence to suggest he didn't have the desire or application needed to go to the next level. Retiring fairly young supports that notion.

On the whole note of wasted potential - Lappin called Brennan the most talented player he had ever played with and Chris Scott said he'd be one day be telling his grandkids that he played with Leuenberger... I think we need ex-players to stop spruiking our talent

 

[Hollow Knight]

Karnezis was certainly a talent.

I'd say his most impressive skill was his ability to blind people to his significant deficiencies and make them defend him rabidly without any semblance of objectivity and excuse and blameshift his non-performance onto everyone but himself. It followed him to Collingwood too from what I saw.

 

[Balony_pony16]

If Adcock really takes off as a forward with the doggies then we may be able to start thinking he was wasted down back

 

[Last of the Roys]

One player that hasn't been mentioned yet - Rhan Hooper.

At his best he was kind of like Cyril Rioli. I think Leigh mentioned him in his wasted talent in his book, including that he begun to hang around some bad influences I think.

In 2008 he played 20 games averaging 10 disposals 1 goal and 4.5 tackles per game in the forward line. Some of his 9 games in 2009 were fantastic. Something must have happened off field / fitness wise to trade him to Hawthorn where he only played 6 more games in 2010 for a total of 54.

 

[M Malice]

One player that hasn't been mentioned yet - Rhan Hooper.

At his best he was kind of like Cyril Rioli. I think Leigh mentioned him in his wasted talent in his book, including that he begun to hang around some bad influences i think.

In 2008 he played 20 games averaging 10 disposals 1 goal and 4.5 tackles per game in the forward line. Some of his 9 games in 2009 were fantastic. Something must have happened off field / fitness wise to trade him to Hawthorn where he only played 6 more games in 2010 for a total of 54.

inside information that i will not expand on, leigh matthews comment on rhan is spot on.

 

[Balony_pony16]

One player that hasn't been mentioned yet - Rhan Hooper.

At his best he was kind of like Cyril Rioli. I think Leigh mentioned him in his wasted talent in his book, including that he begun to hang around some bad influences I think.

In 2008 he played 20 games averaging 10 disposals 1 goal and 4.5 tackles per game in the forward line. Some of his 9 games in 2009 were fantastic. Something must have happened off field / fitness wise to trade him to Hawthorn where he only played 6 more games in 2010 for a total of 54.

yeah...remember the one on one training Voss did with him as well? The club really bent over backwards for him but it just never worked out.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Karnezis was certainly a talent.

I'd say his most impressive skill was his ability to blind people to his significant deficiencies and make them defend him rabidly without any semblance of objectivity and excuse and blameshift his non-performance onto everyone but himself. It followed him to Collingwood too from what I saw.

haha... I don't miss hearing about how good his mum cooked either

 

[krisholio14]

Damian Cupido?

 

[acuguy]

Damian Cupido?

Should have stuck with cricket didn't have the appetite for the fitness work required at AFL level

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Fev would be one of the league's greatest wasted talents.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Fev would be one of the league's greatest wasted talents.

Pretty decent output at AFL level though considering how pathologically unprofessional he was.

 

[James North]

Yeah, still won a Coleman ... only really a wasted investment from our point of view - he was still a star.

 

[POBT]

I reckon Justin Sherman could be seen as a wasted talent. He had his weaknesses, sure, but what he brought to sides was a fairly rare skill set.

 

[Brett C]

Was Jed Adcock played out of position? I'd say yes , would have made a great half forward flanker. Who else are we mucking about with? Hanley is one that comes to mind.

I think using the term great is ver reaching, Jed was a good player but honestly probably made the most of his career based on his talent level.

Didn't have great skills or awareness but worked his arse off and that kept him in the side when other with more talent might have failed.

 

[Brett C]

Karnezis was a waste of talent IMO. Once Voss got wind that he was looking to leave he didn't play him which was understandable. Karnezis was just never made for AFL footy being mentally soft and not willing to work hard enough which was also a problem at Collingwood. Could have been a great wing/HFF IMO he just had something about him.

Have to agree, in his first season I reslly rated Karnezis. He could find space and read the flight so well. I had hopes of him being the poor mans Fyfe just a shame he had no heart.