MRP / Trib. Waters

[ioppolo]

Ashton Hams did something kinda similar to injure Welsh enough to make him sit out the rest of the day, but that isn't being looked at?

I think the MRP just hates Beau Waters.

 

[swannies]

Ashton Hams did something kinda similar to injure Welsh enough to make him sit out the rest of the day, but that isn't being looked at?

I think the MRP just hates Beau Waters.

a) it was the umpire that reported him, and
b) it's the media driving it.

The MRP haven't been involved yet so we can't say they hate him, just yet. I'm sure we'll get to say that tomorrow.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

Watch the media ensure that "West Coast hard-man Beau Waters" or "serial offender Beau Waters" gets weeks.

Would be a joke of the highest order if he gets weeks for doing nothing. I bet Trengove will be hoping that Hocking gets some for his sling too...

 

[Masto]

I do not consider Waters a dirty player at all. Just a hard, courageous player who puts his body on the line week after week, much like his coach John Worsfold did. Having said that, he is gone for all money. Unless you are the Collingwood captain then any player will get rubbed out for injuring another player's head. That's just the way it is. It is a shame though, Waters will end his career with a lengthy tribunal record and people will think he was a dirty player but he really isn't.

 

[84GF]

Contact was high, but there was nothing dirty or malicious in it - just two players having a crack. Doesn't deserve suspension, but he's likely to be suspended given the way the game is being adjudicated these days. Would prefer it if the MRP concentrated on incidents that were blatantly foul of the rules, not the technicalities.

 

[WCE_phil]

Straight up waters will go because the MRP are absolutely useless and work on results rather than intent.

 

[Wildrig]

Oh well got to give Essendon some consolation got smashed by a top 4 side again. Waters again displays why he should be captain hard as nails.

How many of the top 4 have you beaten ? I will start the ball rolling with 2

 

[Wildrig]

For what it's worth , Waters shouldn't get anything - nothing in it . Unfortunately he probably will given the system . No hard feelings on this side , if guilty hope he contests .

 

[Evelyn208]

How many of the top 4 have you beaten ? I will start the ball rolling with 2

Go fishing elsewhere please.

 

[eaglespremiers]

How many of the top 4 have you beaten ? I will start the ball rolling with 2

Would you prefer to beat teams in the top 4 or be in the top 4?

 

[Smeg Head]

Shows how crap the system is now that its very inflexible in its approach to some of these reports. If a player isnt recklessly or deliberately trying to cause an impact with another player then it shouldnt go further then a free kick for high contact etc in game.

As a slight aside, anyone know who actually makes up the MRP?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Guys simply don't come off for concussion without the MRP wanting to flex their muscles.

My bet will be negligent, high contact and high impact.

325 points down to 243 - and beau's back first week of finals

 

[lewigie]

Scooter also in trouble Anyone see this?



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...watson-goes-down/story-e6frf9jf-1226118676423

I remember seeing Essendon clearing from the backline, and Scooter runs into Carlisle off the ball, then they both get up. I'm guessing something ensued from them, but it was a fair way off the ball so the camera didn't show it.

 

[arfadunger]

How many of the top 4 have you beaten ? I will start the ball rolling with 2

Hahaha, yep , you're right. There are 4 sides in the top 4, and we're one of them. So we've beaten 2 out of the other 3. Don't worry, we'll sort the other one out in the first week of the finals.

 

[AFL4ME]

If Waters tackled instead, I think he would have got done for holding the man as Jobe didn't have the ball

 

[keviewiggle]

Hahaha, yep , you're right. There are 4 sides in the top 4, and we're one of them. So we've beaten 2 out of the other 3. Don't worry, we'll sort the other one out in the first week of the finals.

think you will find we have only beaten one.

 

[greennick]

Hahaha, yep , you're right. There are 4 sides in the top 4, and we're one of them. So we've beaten 2 out of the other 3. Don't worry, we'll sort the other one out in the first week of the finals.

Beat Geelong, but lost by a lot to Pies and by a bit to Hawks, no? 1/3?

 

[nameless]

From what i can see of the replay Waters was running hard at the ball, he went to tackle but momentum and Watson changing direction meant he collected him with his chest/shoulder, definitely looks like he wanted to tackle more than bump.

He'll probably get weeks though...

 

[Towno78]

Well done for the win and top 4... Particularly for relegating Carlton to 5th.
You no doubt would've overrun us regardless of injuries, Jobe going down just exacerbated the inevitable.

Honestly, watching the game, I could not understand the crowd were going bananas that Jobe received a free kick. I came on here to see if there were some more level posts from people who I can only assume have by now seen the replay. Instead (and quite incredibly for me) most on here don't think he will go or that he should not have received a free kick even

Jobe was low collecting the footy, he had the footy (clearly), Waters chose to bump rather than tackle, collected him in the head with the point of his shoulder. I don't think any injury to the player should be relevant, but the ******ed MRP do, and it's pretty hard to fake blood pissing out of your mouth and concussion (it's not like he wasn't dying to get back on the field but was not allowed to). As clear cut as they come. 3 weeks, maybe reduced to 2 with an early plea.

 

[arfadunger]

think you will find we have only beaten one.

Beat Geelong, but lost by a lot to Pies and by a bit to Hawks, no? 1/3?

My mistake, sorry guys, I forgot about the Hawthorn loss.
Still happy where we're at though.

Back on topic. I'm afraid that Waters will go. He shouldn't, but as soon as contact is made to the head and an injury occurs then they get done. Doesn't matter that it's accidental or Watson ran into him. If it's the head, he's gone.

 

[Suma Magic]

Towno78 - free kick 100%.

I suppose he should be suspended head hit shoulder.

But if he tackled him, Jobe still could have ran into his shoulder, before Beau wrapped him up. Lots of cases of blokes hitting in the head but getting off as not their fault (Sandi v Adelaide for example).

How many suspensions are there that hit the front part of chest/shoulder? I can't recall any so close to the collar bone.

I heard an ump in the Sydney game call 'ducked your head, play on!'. Is he kidding? If that was a rule then the vast majority of head high free kicks would not be paid.

 

[WN123]

Now you're just trolling, get the **** out. This is why is despise scum supporters.

What was he supposed to do? Watson ran into him like an idiot and almost knocked himself out. Didn't even collect his shoulder on the full.

Nice. Blasts another poster then adds this classy comeback.
Reminds me of the Lloyd- Sewell incident where the only ones that couldn't see the reality were Essendon fans.
Waters and Watson were both going for the ball - Watson got there first and Waters chose to bump rather than tackle. Waters clearly turned side on at the last moment - Reckless - high impact - high contact. 3-4 weeks.

 

[bzparkes]

Nice. Blasts another poster then adds this classy comeback.
Reminds me of the Lloyd- Sewell incident where the only ones that couldn't see the reality were Essendon fans.
Waters and Watson were both going for the ball - Watson got there first and Waters chose to bump rather than tackle. Waters clearly turned side on at the last moment - Reckless - high impact - high contact. 3-4 weeks.

Suggest you watch it in real time. Waters kept going in a straight line and pulled his head out of the way to avoid a clash. Besides, why on earth would you go to tackle a player before they take possession of the ball??

 

[Eagle87]

Nice. Blasts another poster then adds this classy comeback.
Reminds me of the Lloyd- Sewell incident where the only ones that couldn't see the reality were Essendon fans.
Waters and Watson were both going for the ball - Watson got there first and Waters chose to bump rather than tackle. Waters clearly turned side on at the last moment - Reckless - high impact - high contact. 3-4 weeks.

One notes the implied glee with which supporters of your club are salivating over the suspension....

Waters did not try and bump, his left arm is clearly visibile at point of contact moving to tackle, the point of contact was chest/shoulder solely because Waters moved his head to avoid head to head contact and Watson wasn't low over the ball, he was in normal running/avoidance mode when he ran into Waters and made contact with Waters shoulder ... there was no malice, there was no intent, there was no player with head down over the ball - which was the reason given for the tougher penalties... it was unfortunate contact which could have been avoided by Waters no moving his head and then it would have been "accidental" head to head clash ...

The MRP is a crapshoot but as I said in the game day thread, the fact that its Watson, there was TV images of blood and its got decent coverage on Melbourne media (because its the Essendon captain) will likely mean they feel compelled to suspend ... if it had been Joe Bloggs and the same contact had been 3 or 4 cm's to the left, resulting in no blood, if Watson had jumped straight back up, it would have been a free kick and nothing more would have come of it ....

If suspended, which will likely happen, its an unfortunate, accidental incident and most real AFL fans would be disappointed to see it.

It appears some Essendon fans are so desperate for any sort of win they have resorted to backing in the MRP rather than face the reality that their team are also rans who aren't actually very good ... 10 goals mate ...

Now **** off back under the rock you came out from ...

 

[djboonie]

I was debating this with a bloke from work. (he's a bombers man, so no reasonable argument could be had)

My theory is he'll get a week or two, but in reality he had no choice. He didn't even tuck his arm up to bump, just an accidental hit IMO. AFL are pricks, and it's this sort of incident they like to knuckle down on. I watched it in slow mo with the wife on the weekend, and Beau didn't change course, nor did he brace for the impact.

Should get off, but wont.