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[Purpletown]

I'm not sure you could say that Jackson was Lobbs direct replacement. You could say we replaced Hogan with Treacy and Lobb with Amiss. Where Jackson fits in to this puzzle...I dont know.

You could argue to make the comparison with Amiss given Lobb considered himself forward and not a ruck?

Lobb's career as a forward was all but over at the Bulldogs until he was thrown into the backline mid season. He has been a revelation as a backman.

I am extremely happy and confident with our two young key forwards in Treacy and Amiss. Jackson has talent and youth on his side and I have confidence he will prove to be an exceptional player for Freo.

As a Freo supporter there is little I miss about Lobb playing elsewhere.

 

[Jezzitizle]

I'm not sure you could say that Jackson was Lobbs direct replacement. You could say we replaced Hogan with Treacy and Lobb with Amiss. Where Jackson fits in to this puzzle...I dont know.

You could argue to make the comparison with Amiss given Lobb considered himself forward and not a ruck?

Definitely a direct comparison is fair, they both play forward ruck for us.

Still, Jackson’s age being at the start of our window and with a bigger ceiling make him the better option for us.

 

[freo84]

Definitely a direct comparison is fair, they both play forward ruck for us.

Still, Jackson’s age being at the start of our window and with a bigger ceiling make him the better option for us.

But Treacy has also played the forward ruck role. It's a hard one for me. I can't say that we directly replaced Lobbs role with Jackson as we have two players that do it now.

 

[Purple Suit]

I guess it just shows the difference in our priorities. I'm not interested in All Australian selection. I care about playing in finals and winning premierships.

We are comparing two players, finals and premierships really don’t come into it but if you insist. Jackson actually has a premiership medal while Rory does not.

 

[Wigarus]

We are comparing two players, finals and premierships really don’t come into it but if you insist. Jackson actually has a premiership medal while Rory does not.

We're comparing two players from the same team. Winning premierships for a different team don't count.

 

[Purple Suit]

We're comparing two players from the same team. Winning premierships for a different team don't count.

Ha, make up your mind. They have never played in the same team at the same time. Once Rory got his new contract he was rubbish till the switch to defence. Jackson has had a better 2 seasons than Rory has since then and he has way more upside & maturing to do.

 

[Wigarus]

Ha, make up your mind. They have never played in the same team at the same time. Once Rory got his new contract he was rubbish till the switch to defence. Jackson has had a better 2 seasons than Rory has since then and he has way more upside & maturing to do.

Make up my mind? How does Jackson winning a premiership for Melbourne affect the Dockers (apart from increasing his trade currency)?

We're talking about two players that played a similar structural role for THE DOCKERS.

Your comment is like saying trading in Hogan was a success because he won the Coleman. Yes, Jackson is a premiership player. The Dockers have had quite a few premiership players without winning a premiership.

 

[mightymouse75]

Jackson doesn't do tiktok vids.
End of story.

 

[Sully90]

At least I presented one.

You and huski just go straight to personal attacks.

You've taken a blatant contrary position and been an utter smartass to any response.

 

[Purple Suit]

Make up my mind? How does Jackson winning a premiership for Melbourne affect the Dockers (apart from increasing his trade currency)?

We're talking about two players that played a similar structural role for THE DOCKERS.

Your comment is like saying trading in Hogan was a success because he won the Coleman. Yes, Jackson is a premiership player. The Dockers have had quite a few premiership players without winning a premiership.

You said he wasn’t an upgrade on Rory Lobb and that is clearly not the case yet you duck and weave, constantly moving the goal posts.

It’s more like getting upset we traded Hogan & picked Amiss because Hogan played better this year. Hogan doesn’t become that player if he stays and Lobb does kick 30 goals at Freo in 2023 since he would be rucking badly for most of it.

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

I think Taylor laid it out pretty well. After replacing Rory with Jackson, we lost 15 goals and missed the finals.

Jackson is younger and seems to have more upside but so far it is all hypothetical.

Luke Jackson and Rory Lobb AFL Stats Comparison

Luke Jackson and Rory Lobb AFL Stats Comparison.

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Purple Jesus, Sully90 and King Huskii disagree. Big surprise. You don't need to spend much time here to know they aren't critical thinkers, they are cheerleaders.

Comparing Jackson 2023 (or 2024 for that matter) to Lobb 2022 isn't particularly enlightening. Jackson has spent considerable time rucking due to Darcy's injuries, and that's obviously going to impact all those stats.

If you're gonna compare Lobb to Jackson statistically, it'd be Lobb 2019 coz he spent a more similar amount of time rucking. And it reveals what pretty much everyone knows: peak Lobb's better in the air, Jackson's better at pretty much everything else, and they're about the same level in terms of goalscoring prowess.

 

[Wigarus]

You said he wasn’t an upgrade on Rory Lobb and that is clearly not the case yet you duck and weave, constantly moving the goal posts.

It’s more like getting upset we traded Hogan & picked Amiss because Hogan played better this year. Hogan doesn’t become that player if he stays and Lobb does kick 30 goals at Freo in 2023 since he would be rucking badly for most of it.

Actually, I said it was arguable he isn't an upgrade.

 

[oldgoat]

So far it's arguable he isn't even an upgrade on Rory Lobb but Freo fans are so riddled with PTSD that they're happy he doesn't want to leave already or have a career-threatening injury.

Wig...I think you be riddled with something...
but i wish you a joy filled season!

 

[Wigarus]

Happy to have him but don't think his output has matched the price we paid yet, a few flashes of brilliance aside. His start to 2024 was unreal but I'd love to see it over a full season.

You've taken a blatant contrary position and been an utter smartass to any response.

Blatant? I clearly explained my reasoning. I wasn't categorical; I said it was arguable.

This board is an echo chamber full of people who struggle with comprehension and lash out with personal attacks.

You might personally be more happy with flashes of individual brilliance than team success, that's not what I'm interested in.

 

[wakojako]

Jackson doesn't do tiktok vids.
End of story.

Our loss

 

[chaosball32]

I'm keen to know Freo supporters thoughts about Luke Jackson's 2 years at Freo thus far.

I think on the most part he's been pretty damn outstanding for you guys and you should be excited for what's to come from LJ.

I think Melbourne badly miss that second ruck option who can kick 30 goals a year. We did manage to convert one of our traded in picks for Caleb Windsor which softens the blow a little.

Pretty underwhelming for the price we paid and the money he’s likely on but I wasn’t really a fan of the trade to begin with so maybe I’m not the person to ask.

Hasn’t kicked 30 goals in a season yet (his best was 22 in 2023) but to be fair Darcy has been constantly injured in the past 2 years so he’s often had to play main ruck rather than ruck/forward. If Darcy can actually stay fit this year we’ll be able to get a better read on Jackson.

He’s young and clearly has potential so I’m not writing him off but I need to see something from him this year that’ll suggest to me that he’ll be anything more then a decent player at best. He’s such an almost player right now. For example gets himself into good positions then drops marks he should be taking. With the amount of marks he dropped from 20 odd metres out from goal I reckon he could have kicked 30+ this year.

 

[Purple Suit]

Actually, I said it was arguable he isn't an upgrade.

Which implies he isn’t an upgrade or you are a nit picking numpty trying to sit on the fence and stir shit.

Which one is it?

 

[Sully90]

Blatant? I clearly explained my reasoning. I wasn't categorical; I said it was arguable.

This board is an echo chamber full of people who struggle with comprehension and lash out with personal attacks.

You might personally be more happy with flashes of individual brilliance than team success, that's not what I'm interested in.

Not sure which of my posts you're reading, I clearly said Jackson hasn't been worth the price we paid. But that makes me a cheerleader I suppose because I don't want Lobb's 15 extra goals

 

[GingerDocker]

Blatant? I clearly explained my reasoning. I wasn't categorical; I said it was arguable.

This board is an echo chamber full of people who struggle with comprehension and lash out with personal attacks.

You might personally be more happy with flashes of individual brilliance than team success, that's not what I'm interested in.

Every team board has an element of being an echo chamber...we're supporters of this team ffs. Surely that isn't surprising to you?

Also, if you start, in any minor way, comparing someone like Lobb to someone like Jackson and expect no push back, your equally naive.

I'm not supporting personal attacks, they are beyond dumb.

But steadfastly making a clearly controversial and (in my opinion) illogical comparison between a player that was routinely criticised for a range of faults, to a young, talented, but maybe understandably inconsistent future star of the game and having people resoundingly disagree with you is surely not unexpected??

 

[Bigger]

He might not do tiktok but Dogga does do local Toyota commercials and THEY ARE FANTASTIC.

Watch a couple of those, Wigarus, you complicated individual. Bathe in the simple splendour of a bloke with more flashes of individual brilliance than you have had turgid fantasies where everyone recognises your greatness and apologises to you, crafting a statue in your honour to appease you, perhaps sacrificing a couple of virgins if we can find them.

 

[Wigarus]

Which implies he isn’t an upgrade or you are a nit picking numpty trying to sit on the fence and stir shit.

Which one is it?

Well it could be that it's not a question with a definitive answer and there is merit to both sides of the argument.

But thanks for proving my point that if you don't agree with the crowd you are going to be personally attacked.

 

[Wigarus]

Not sure which of my posts you're reading, I clearly said Jackson hasn't been worth the price we paid. But that makes me a cheerleader I suppose because I don't want Lobb's 15 extra goals

So you don't think he's worth the price we paid but I'm blatant and a smartass for saying some people might think that?

 

[Bigger]

Every team board has an element of being an echo chamber...we're supporters of this team ffs. Surely that isn't surprising to you?

That's my favourite part of the lone-wolf, truthtelling footy supporter story - the bit where he, and it's always a he, laughs at the collection of deluded fools gathering together to share their common interest.

Jackson hasn't been worth what we paid. But you don't walk past talent like his to hold on to the game-changing top bloke that is Rory Lobb. You pay what you have to and wait for the entirety of the transaction to play out before you definitively assess it.

How are Melbourne going with the magic beans we gave them for Dogga?

 

[Joao]

Jackson doesn't do tiktok vids.
End of story.

Give him 10 years to reflect and I bet Rory wishes he hadn't, if he doesn't already.

 

[Daddoo]

Trying to compare Jackson, a player who’s younger and, by most standards, more talented than Lobb is like comparing a draft from last year with a draft from 8 years ago.

It’s academic.

Let’s wait for Dogga to have more than two seasons with the team and give him the benefit of prolonged hindsight before trying to compare the two. He’s young. He’ll get better or he won’t. Give it time.

How you want to measure who’s “better” is subjective and open to a hell of a lot of conformation bias. Regardless of stats, I reckon most Freo fans would be happy with Jacko over Lobb for the past two years.

I get exhausted listening to my wife talking at me about some stupid rumors at her work, who works better than who, and all the drama, and then I come here and see the same sh**. Give it a rest y’all. life’s too short for this kind of banter.

PS. I’m Dogga’s buddy this year again. You got a problem with him, you got a problem with me. I want nothing but accolades and compliments this year in regards to #9.