Well done England

[Plogs]

No-one really gives a toss about the pjyama game.

Sure know I dont.

And this series is always forgotten 5 minutes after it is finished. The poms can have this, they come here for one thing & they didn't get it.

 

[The Dice Man]

And this series is always forgotten 5 minutes after it is finished. The poms can have this, they come here for one thing & the didn't get it.

5-nil

 

[Jeffers]

Congrats England. Thanks for giving the Aussies the wake up call they needed before the world cup.

 

[stickman11]

But we've got the ashes.

Not sure why we went five nill and brought Hogg and Watson in for the finals. Bloody strange that. M Clark is a wet one day player, watson is junk, bracken couldn't bowl to save his life, Gilchrist is finished and Hussey is really quite hopless.

I wonder if the selectors are braindead because they seem to select the same duds year in and year out. The current team will struggle to win a world cup match.

 

[Ray Nolan]

I can't believe that we won at One Day Cricket! A pleasant surprise and perhaps we do care after all!

Here's hoping we can take this form on to the World Cup, COME ON ENGLAND!

 

[gillyrulz]

england only won because of cr@p captaincy.... if ponting wasnt captain we would of won

 

[stickman11]

england only won because of cr@p captaincy.... if ponting wasnt captain we would of won

Or more to the point, because the vice captain couldn't do his job with the bat all series. Dead set hack of an opener.

 

[goalpie]

That duck worth lewis system is a joke. Going by that mathamatical equation and runrate, England would have made around 380 runs from 50 overs not 247.

That was a joke, nearly as bad as the joke decision aginst Hodge the game before.

 

[Renegade]

Love how the aussie fans are saying they don't care then have to talk to themselves about the ashes to cheer themselves up.

cut.

 

[stickman11]

Love how the aussie fans are saying they don't care then have to talk to themselves about the ashes to cheer themselves up.

cut.

The Ashes are ours. The one day game has always been a hit and miss affair. Real cricket is 5 day. It sorts the men out from the little boys. 5 nill?

 

[gillyrulz]

Or more to the point, because the vice captain couldn't do his job with the bat all series. Dead set hack of an opener.

oh wat did gilly get last night compared to ponting
oh and wats gilly's high score compared to ponting...
oh and he has a better win % as captain

 

[magpie_militia]

That duck worth lewis system is a joke. Going by that mathamatical equation and runrate, England would have made around 380 runs from 50 overs not 247.

That was a joke, nearly as bad as the joke decision aginst Hodge the game before.

Corect me if I am wrong, but the mathematical equation was so high because of the amount of wickets we had lost compared to the amount of runs we had scored.......not sure what the fuss is about?

 

[eddiesmith]

That duck worth lewis system is a joke. Going by that mathamatical equation and runrate, England would have made around 380 runs from 50 overs not 247.

That was a joke, nearly as bad as the joke decision aginst Hodge the game before.

No it wasnt because duckworth lewis brings forward the death batting knowing that teams can pick it up in the late overs of a one day innings if there are wickets in hand and would therefore be unfair to England if Australia were able to chase at the same rate in less overs therefore less chance to lose wickets and more chance of lifting the rate when required

Remember teams make 200 in 20 overs but you dont see them making 500 yet, its much easier to score quickly in less overs and thats what D/L takes into account, also doesnt help when you lose early wickets

 

[spell_check]

I think people criticize the D/L System because it is quite complex. But it is by far the best method out there and no one has been able to come up with anything better - which IMO they won't.

The runs target gets bigger with every wicket because it's assumed that with every wicket, chances were taken with the bat, therefore runs were scored. It rewards sensible batting.

 

[ShearMagic9]

I think people criticize the D/L System because it is quite complex. But it is by far the best method out there and no one has been able to come up with anything better - which IMO they won't.

The runs target gets bigger with every wicket because it's assumed that with every wicket, chances were taken with the bat, therefore runs were scored. It rewards sensible batting.

Best system that is available, its either we use that or cancel games that get rain interrupted.

The reason Australia had to chase so many was because of the early wickets they had lost.

 

[eddiesmith]

What was Australias target from 33 overs?

 

[spell_check]

What was Australias target from 33 overs?

211.

 

[eddiesmith]

211.

cheers, so only 8 runs more than what it would have been under the old system

 

[Cleavy]

congrats to England.

 

[Biggie]

Congrats from an true blue Aussie, served it up to us and gave the Aussies a great reminder before the WC07.

Well done.

 

[Biggie]

england only won because of cr@p captaincy.... if ponting wasnt captain we would of won

Thats not a very good assessment at all.

We were beaten by the better team twice, 3 times including the last match of the round robin format.

Pontings captaincy had nothing to do with it.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

No it wasnt because duckworth lewis brings forward the death batting knowing that teams can pick it up in the late overs of a one day innings if there are wickets in hand and would therefore be unfair to England if Australia were able to chase at the same rate in less overs therefore less chance to lose wickets and more chance of lifting the rate when required

Remember teams make 200 in 20 overs but you dont see them making 500 yet, its much easier to score quickly in less overs and thats what D/L takes into account, also doesnt help when you lose early wickets

Forgetting that it was washed out for a second, the first rain period we lost 9 overs, and had 20 taken from the target. Next revised is lose another 8 overs, and take 17 runs off the target. Once you have that sort of pressure, you are going to lose wickets faster. The result will always be tainted. But as has been said before, no one will remember this in 10 years time. They will be talking about 5-0 for 100+ years.

 

[beatnik]

Absolutely. But that's cricket. England could have bungled their chances, but instead made the most of them, and that's how you win the important matches.

sure, but how is the above any different to what I originally wrote?

"when you win the first game of the series it puts a lot of pressure on the other side and that's just the way it goes i guess"​

 

[beatnik]

Forgetting that it was washed out for a second, the first rain period we lost 9 overs, and had 20 taken from the target. Next revised is lose another 8 overs, and take 17 runs off the target. Once you have that sort of pressure, you are going to lose wickets faster. The result will always be tainted.

c'mon give Eddie his moment in the sun - he has been ducking and weaving and is finally able to declare his support for the Poms without feeling ashamed

many factors but no excuses from me - cricket is a funny game and that's why I love it

however, if we had won the game under the same circumstances last night, i would certainly ackowledge what a crap deal the team batting second had

i believe we would have easily chased down 245 in 50 overs but then again that's why winning game 1 AND the toss matters - lady luck wasn't with us this time because we weren't making our own luck...accept it and move on

But as has been said before, no one will remember this in 10 years time.

no-one will care by the WC

They will be talking about 5-0 for 100+ years.

yes, it's sad - I have a lot of time for Freddie and yet he will be long remembered as the captain of the worst Ashes team in living memory

 

[eddiesmith]

c'mon give Eddie his moment in the sun - he has been ducking and weaving and is finally able to declare his support for the Poms without feeling ashamed

many factors but no excuses from me - cricket is a funny game and that's why I love it

however, if we had won the game under the same circumstances last night, i would certainly ackowledge what a crap deal the team batting second had

i believe we would have easily chased down 245 in 50 overs but then again that's why winning game 1 AND the toss matters - lady luck wasn't with us this time because we weren't making our own luck...accept it and move on



no-one will care by the WC



yes, it's sad - I have a lot of time for Freddie and yet he will be long remembered as the captain of the worst Ashes team in living memory

Why are you so sure they would have chased down the target? It was humid and overcast and wasnt easy batting conditions

The rain in the end didnt affect the match, it hurt us during our innings and it hurt Australia but we recovered to put a competitive total on the board on what were not superb conditions for batting.

Even if it didnt rain enough to alter the target I have no doubt we would have won, chasing 250 on the SCG under lights in those conditions is not easy

I believe it will be remembered, its the only time Australia have lost a finals series in a very long time, it will come up, Australia head into the finals only having lost 1 finals series in 20 years or so that against England in 2007