What if the dogs DON'T land a tall forward?

[DexterTan]

It's Thursday of Trade Week and the dogs still don't have a tall forward signing apart from Father/Son Ayce Cordy draft.

Would you be happy with only Ayce Cordy as the "tall" the dogs have picked up during Trade Week?

Hope the dogs don't panic and trade anyone just because they're tall!

 

[Butane]

I still think our line up can win a flag with the current crop of players. In saying that I think we would be a great chance to win a flag if we got Pavlich, Riewoldt or J.Brown. Even Hall/Hansen would give us more of a chance but not a massive chance like the players above. I'd support these 2.

And even if our current list can't get a flag, having a Campbell or Boyle isn't going to take us any closer - if anything it'll just be wallpapering the cracks and give us something else to whinge about for the next 12 months until this time next year when we target the next dud. Maybe Leigh Brown next year guys?

 

[acker]

I've said in other similar threads, I would want Brian Lake to be put there full time next year.

Williams, Everitt and Tiller should be able to handle the tall back posts in his absence.

Brian Lake is a good contested and pack mark, plus has fair skills when the ball is beneath his knees.

He originally played Full Forward for us in his first half dozen games.

 

[Dogs Rule]

I've said in other similar threads, I would want Brian Lake to be put there full time next year.

Williams, Everitt and Tiller should be able to handle the tall back posts in his absence.

Brian Lake is a good contested and pack mark, plus has fair skills when the ball is beneath his knees.

He originally played Full Forward for us in his first half dozen games.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Lake is a full-back. That's were he plays his best.

Everitt, Williams and Tiller won't be able to hold down Lake's position.

We have an opportunity to win a flag in the next three years, so it's not a time for experimentation.

 

[Poptart]

Before i get shot down in flames, just a suggestion, what if we throw a lifeline to Todd Grima, about 21/22, 193cm, ex Geelong rookie, has kicked 66 goals in a season for Geelong's VFL team, and 55 goals this year for Glenelg in the SANFL, so is proven at the next level, would only cost us our last pick.

He has proven more at VFL / SANFL level than a Thorp or Dowler or Hughes or Campbell etc etc, was rated quite high in his draft, just couldn't get an opportunity with Geelong having Hawkins, Nathan Ablett, Lonergan etc at the time, similar to what Thorp & Dowler are experiencing now at the Hawks.

We also do this deal for Hansen, has never been a goal scoring machine, was was vital to West Coast to winning a Premiership, even though he's more lead out CHF, he's still tall, a good & proven player, can still take overhead marks, also releases Murph to play a more creative role, also releases Hahn, all of a sudden, those 2 players won't be as relied on.

 

[acker]

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Lake is a full-back. That's were he plays his best.

Everitt, Williams and Tiller won't be able to hold down Lake's position.

We have an opportunity to win a flag in the next three years, so it's not a time for experimentation.

How the hell has a hand full of games or a few minutes here and there proved that.

And I would expect Everitt, Williams and Tiller to be improved players next year.

And Williams to be on the feild more.

 

[acker]

Before i get shot down in flames, just a suggestion, what if we throw a lifeline to Todd Grima, about 21/22, 193cm, ex Geelong rookie, has kicked 66 goals in a season for Geelong's VFL team, and 55 goals this year for Glenelg in the SANFL, so is proven at the next level, would only cost us our last pick.

Could also be picked up at the PSD or Rookie draft.

 

[Poptart]

How the hell has a hand full of games or a few minutes here and there proved that.

And I would expect Everitt, Williams and Tiller to be improved players next year.

And Williams to be on the feild more.

Even i'm one of Tommy's biggest fans, and i'm starting to have my doubts over his body holding up.

 

[always right]

Even i'm one of Tommy's biggest fans, and i'm starting to have my doubts over his body holding up.

IF Tommy's body holds up, think there's merit in Aker's suggestion (Did I just type that?)..........however, I think it's a game by game situation. Where the match-ups permit I don't mind pushing him forward but there will be plenty of games where we need Lake to take the bigger bodied full forwards. Tiller isn't big enough and Everitt probably won't be for a couple of years yet.

 

[acker]

IF Tommy's body holds up, think there's merit in Aker's suggestion (Did I just type that?)..........however, I think it's a game by game situation. Where the match-ups permit I don't mind pushing him forward but there will be plenty of games where we need Lake to take the bigger bodied full forwards. Tiller isn't big enough and Everitt probably won't be for a couple of years yet.

If Tommys body does not hold up a world of hurt for a dogs fan.

 

[Poptart]

I've said in other similar threads, I would want Brian Lake to be put there full time next year.

Williams, Everitt and Tiller should be able to handle the tall back posts in his absence.

Brian Lake is a good contested and pack mark, plus has fair skills when the ball is beneath his knees.

He originally played Full Forward for us in his first half dozen games.

Tiller played one decent game against Geelong in the Prelim down back, Everitt is still very much developing and off course Williams body!

Our backline is taking shape, probably a year or 2 away from being at its best, for that time, i believe Lake is still crucial in playing down there, for the next few seasons anyway.

But, if we don't land a tall forward, i beleive we will still struggle against the better sides, and deep into September, history shows Premiership sides have tall key forwards, can't remember too many side's winning with medium or small forwards.

 

[Parkey]

If Tommys body does not hold up a world of hurt for a dogs fan.

Do you mean a world of Williams as a dog fan.

I know where your coming from Acker Harris does have great hands and is our leading contested mark player.
I would like to seem him in a swinging type role. Forward and back in games. I think he would do this quite well. As for staying at fullforward I dont think thats an option. I think against the big bodied players we only really have one option and thats Harris.

Correct me if Im wrong but didn't Harris start his career at Full Forward?

 

[Beasley]

Tiller played one decent game against Geelong in the Prelim down back

You obviously didnt see the semi final against Sydney then!

 

[murphy2bedabest]

We have an opportunity to win a flag in the next three years, so it's not a time for experimentation.

If we want to win a flag in the next 3 years, we need a tall key forward, we have to take the risk, and lake maybe that risk.

Footy is an easy game, kick a bigger score the the other side, simple right?

The best way for that is not let the other team have the ball, or in other word win the footy in the Middle. Our midfield is what top 3? Higgins will get better, Harbrow and Hill will play more as will Ward, i still think we should try our hardest to lure Cousins to the club.

Who do you tag? Cousins? Cooney? Griffen? Higgins? Cross? Boyd? Aker?

We are the best side at hitting up players in and just outside the forward 50, hitting Murphy up, Gia, Hansen if we get him, Hahn, Welsh, Johno...but who is deep to kick it to one on one? to take a pack mark? Josh Hill?

My point is the more we have the ball, the better our chance's of kicking a score, and if that means having Lake deep taking the the mark with that next kick in to our 50, instead of the ball rebounding to Buddy or Mooney or Riewoldt ect

Ok we can play it safe and keep Lake at FB, as well as drafting for a key Forward, but playing it safe wont win us the flag

 

[Parkey]

If we want to win a flag in the next 3 years, we need a tall key forward, we have to take the risk, and lake maybe that risk.

Footy is an easy game, kick a bigger score the the other side, simple right?

The best way for that is not let the other team have the ball, or in other word win the footy in the Middle. Our midfield is what top 3? Higgins will get better, Harbrow and Hill will play more as will Ward, i still think we should try our hardest to lure Cousins to the club.

Who do you tag? Cousins? Cooney? Griffen? Higgins? Cross? Boyd? Aker?

We are the best side at hitting up players in and just outside the forward 50, hitting Murphy up, Gia, Hansen if we get him, Hahn, Welsh, Johno...but who is deep to kick it to one on one? to take a pack mark? Josh Hill?

My point is the more we have the ball, the better our chance's of kicking a score, and if that means having Lake deep taking the the mark with that next kick in to our 50, instead of the ball rebounding to Buddy or Mooney or Riewoldt ect

Ok we can play it safe and keep Lake at FB, as well as drafting for a key Forward, but playing it safe wont win us the flag

Like ya thinking.

The million dollar question.....where is Cousins going?

 

[Bodicifer]

The most likely scenario is that we won't land a tall forward, in fact, it is highly probable we won't. We will be relying on Minson and then guys like Cordy, Grant, Boumann etc. to hopefully develop.

I still believe Minson can develop into a real force up forward. He is still young, attacks it ferociously, is a good kick and the only thing that has let him down is weak hands on the footy. This will come though and I don't think he is too far away at all from being a huge force.

 

[doggies ftw]

If we want to win a flag in the next 3 years, we need a tall key forward, we have to take the risk, and lake maybe that risk.

Footy is an easy game, kick a bigger score the the other side, simple right?

The best way for that is not let the other team have the ball, or in other word win the footy in the Middle. Our midfield is what top 3? Higgins will get better, Harbrow and Hill will play more as will Ward, i still think we should try our hardest to lure Cousins to the club.

Who do you tag? Cousins? Cooney? Griffen? Higgins? Cross? Boyd? Aker?

We are the best side at hitting up players in and just outside the forward 50, hitting Murphy up, Gia, Hansen if we get him, Hahn, Welsh, Johno...but who is deep to kick it to one on one? to take a pack mark? Josh Hill?

My point is the more we have the ball, the better our chance's of kicking a score, and if that means having Lake deep taking the the mark with that next kick in to our 50, instead of the ball rebounding to Buddy or Mooney or Riewoldt ect

Ok we can play it safe and keep Lake at FB, as well as drafting for a key Forward, but playing it safe wont win us the flag

100% good post , Our midfield is one of the best so yeahh if we can stop it from going down to the back line much we wont need lake, and our backline is improving all we need is a injury free williams and lake could go down and help out but think back to round 4(i think) against richmond hes a great mark

 

[gangsta deluxe]

"you cant always get what you want...but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

We will have a key forward by the end of the week. The question is on the quality

 

[Ant_]

I've said in other similar threads, I would want Brian Lake to be put there full time next year.

Williams, Everitt and Tiller should be able to handle the tall back posts in his absence.

Brian Lake is a good contested and pack mark, plus has fair skills when the ball is beneath his knees.

He originally played Full Forward for us in his first half dozen games.

I'd like to see Lake up forward once we've got someone to cover his skill down back. The three you mentioned are not up to that standard yet.

 

[Poptart]

"you cant always get what you want...but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

We will have a key forward by the end of the week. The question is on the quality

We were in this EXACT position last year, seems like Groundhog day....and we ended up settling with Welsh, i just hope we don't end up with a VFL standard forward in Schultz.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

I'd like to see Lake up forward once we've got someone to cover his skill down back. The three you mentioned are not up to that standard yet.

Add Morris Hargrave even Wight and maybe even throwing O'Shea in the deep end, who knows we might even pick up a Key Back rather then a Forward.

 

[stefoid]

Lake is awesome when he isnt totally occupied with minding the oppostions quick gun forward.... peeling off to help out, third man up, covering the goal square, and just generally not panicking in tight situations. How many extra goals would we concede with him replaced by a rookie fullback?

He would have to kick at least that many at the other end to make the switch worthwhile.

My tip is if we dont recruit anyone, we will be seeing alot more of skipper in the goal square, minson rucking and hudson on the bench so that we dont break the old man down again at the end of the season.

 

[Mofra]

My tip is if we dont recruit anyone, we will be seeing alot more of skipper in the goal square, minson rucking and hudson on the bench so that we dont break the old man down again at the end of the season.

Interesting idea considering Skipper basically had no pre-season.

Wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a mature-aged player if a trade deal falls through.

 

[Dogs Rule]

"you cant always get what you want...but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

We will have a key forward by the end of the week. The question is on the quality

Perfect quote gangsta.

We will have Hansen by tomorrow.

 

[Poptart]

Perfect quote gangsta.

We will have Hansen by tomorrow.

What makes you so confident?

I hope your right btw!