When will the Waite be over..?

[Hurricane Murphy]

Howdy...

For a very long time I've been saying the same thing to everyone who is riding along the Waite bandwagon. He is a kid living in the shadow of his fathers name. He is a young talent yes and has potential, but I think way to many people have jumped the gun when it comes to Waite. To me he is still on all the same pages as our maybe players. Now you know my oppinion on the young talent (dont get the idea I dont like him, I just think he doesnt deserve the kudos he gets when he hasnt really done anything to get the recognition he has got) theres an issue I wish to discuss..

Fevola is obviously our main route to goal and our match winner. This year if Fevola isnt kicking 4-5+ goals a game we simply wont win and that was a deciding factor in the game against Sydney I think (also the slow start). We have our tall forwards who will in the team sheet, Fisher, Waite and our crumbers Simmo, Betts and all the other guys who float around the paddock. But really our second option has to be Waite. I believe Fisher still has a fair bit of devolping to go and is a touch behind Waite. So when is Waite going to step up and start kicking consecutive goals in matches, start putting them through the sticks when his givin the chance and create that second option in the 50 to take the pressure off fev, so when fev has bad days and cant kick 4-5 goals we have another tall forward to fall back on like 15 other teams in the afl.

The time has come for Waite to really step up to the afl level. We have loved him and praised him for the efforts of his father and I think its time he started giving us reasons to praise him on his own terms, instead of leaving us hanging on the 'young superstar of the future' string, because really the future is this year.

 

[Stanton]

Have you even been watching the games? Waite was close to best on ground the first game of the season. Hes been a bit underdone and has an injury thats keeping him out. His kicking for goal sometimes lets him down but other than that hes in our top 3 best players and i agree that he could be more consistent and i see him as a future superstar of the AFL.

 

[Hurricane Murphy]

Have you even been watching the games? Waite was close to best on ground the first game of the season. Hes been a bit underdone and has an injury thats keeping him out. His kicking for goal sometimes lets him down but other than that hes in our top 3 best players and i agree that he could be more consistent and i see him as a future superstar of the AFL.

There it is, we have been seeing a future superstar of the afl for a fair while now, I know it doesnt happen overnight, but it needs to happen yesterday.

and yes im at every game

 

[Kooley]

he is just as good as his old man was, if not better. his one problem is that he doesn't convert all his opportunities. exciting player who on his day is a match winner. IMO he is already a star. he is feared and rated by all opposition clubs. he is coming along beautifully.

 

[AlecDuncan]

For a very long time I've been saying the same thing to everyone who is riding along the Waite bandwagon. He is a kid living in the shadow of his fathers name.

Jarred is way more talented than his dad. I watched Vinnie play during the seventies, and he was a great back-pocket specialist. Along with John O'Connell, he provided great support to Southby, taking the resting ruckman as was typical in the day. He was a lot more solid and strong than Jarred, and when taking a run up the ground he would tuck the ball under one arm and shirtfront opponents with the other. It was beautiful to watch. He could aslo be relied upon to deal out a little retribution when it was righteous. He even played for Tasmania and kicked six goals on us one day some time after we delisted him, so he wasn't useless around the goals.

But. He was nowhere as nimble, quick, flexible, or freakish as his son. They were both great marks, but Vin would never have got to the contests that the J-man does. Further, many of Vin's strengths would get anyone rubbed out for months at a time these days.

It's not like Jarred has anything like the legacy to deal with that SOS did. In short, he is not living in his father's shadow. He's casting his own.

 

[pumped]

I think Hurricane has raised some interesting points. I too feel that we have placed Jarred a little ahead of his performances. He is an enormous talent and has showed this talent many times already. However in some games, usually after a big one the week before, he can go missing.

Personally I wouldn't lock him into the forward line. I would be open to him playing CHB, wing and on the ball. From a forward line perspective I would also consider Lance down there from time to time. Feel that O'Halphin and Hartlett could also be used down back.

With regards to Vin I feel he was very talented aswell. Remember games where he played up forward late in his career and looked a natural. Could be wrong buit think he kicked 7 one day at full forward. However I dont believe most Carlton supporters have advanced Jarred because of Vin's rep.

Jarred has gained notoriety in a similar way to Kouta in that when he plays well he really stands out because of his x factor abilities. However sometimes players with the ability to do the seemingly impossible can get reputations bigger than the consistency of their performance. I think this is what Hurricane is perhaps trying to guard against.

 

[mojo31]

Howdy...

For a very long time I've been saying the same thing to everyone who is riding along the Waite bandwagon. He is a kid living in the shadow of his fathers name. He is a young talent yes and has potential, but I think way to many people have jumped the gun when it comes to Waite. To me he is still on all the same pages as our maybe players. Now you know my oppinion on the young talent (dont get the idea I dont like him, I just think he doesnt deserve the kudos he gets when he hasnt really done anything to get the recognition he has got) theres an issue I wish to discuss..

Fevola is obviously our main route to goal and our match winner. This year if Fevola isnt kicking 4-5+ goals a game we simply wont win and that was a deciding factor in the game against Sydney I think (also the slow start). We have our tall forwards who will in the team sheet, Fisher, Waite and our crumbers Simmo, Betts and all the other guys who float around the paddock. But really our second option has to be Waite. I believe Fisher still has a fair bit of devolping to go and is a touch behind Waite. So when is Waite going to step up and start kicking consecutive goals in matches, start putting them through the sticks when his givin the chance and create that second option in the 50 to take the pressure off fev, so when fev has bad days and cant kick 4-5 goals we have another tall forward to fall back on like 15 other teams in the afl.

The time has come for Waite to really step up to the afl level. We have loved him and praised him for the efforts of his father and I think its time he started giving us reasons to praise him on his own terms, instead of leaving us hanging on the 'young superstar of the future' string, because really the future is this year.

What level do you want a player who is 23 and played 50 games?

Nick Riewoldt? He has played close to 100 games and is in the top few players in the game. Is that what you expect of Jarred?

36 goals this year would do me fine thanks if he is able to play at that level like last year.

Can you name some tall forwards of his age and experience who are playing as well as him?

Who else has played 50 games and in there 4th year is close to his level.

You are comparing him to Pavlich. J Brown, Riewoldt type players who are older and much more expereinced and also the best few players in the game. Waite should be compared to Ashley Hansen, Brad Miller, Henry Playfair etc

Those are 3rd/4th year players with 20 to 60 games under there belt who are developing. Not the cream of the AFL.
Waite is short of them but thats okay. 550 players in the AFL are as well.

 

[as0l0]

i'd like to go on record as saying that Waite would be a better Centre Half Back than a Centre Half Forward.

 

[Snoozer]

Shocking kick of the ball... needs to improve this before he can be talked about as a superstar.

 

[Funkalicous]

Thought Waite's field kicking has improved dramatically over the past 6 months. Still a bit wobbly kicking for goal though...

 

[SurreyBlue]

Jarrod Waite will be something special when he starts believing in himself.
It's close, very very close.

 

[murphster]

Waite's only downfall so far this year has been his kicking for goal, if Jarrod had kicked straight we would all be praising him as the second coming, his marking is sensational he is learning how to make space for himself and others and his attack on the ball has been good, I don't think we are overrating him one bit if he had kicked straight he would be up there with Fev as far as goals kicked this year go. Can easily kick 50 goals for the year and most probably will when he comes back. He has made his own name at Carlton and will certainly cast a bigger shadow than his Father by the end of his career. Not overrated at all

 

[Bronx Bomber]

Jarrod Waite will be something special when he starts believing in himself.
It's close, very very close.

I think his shocking run with injuries has alot to do with that....he seems to be getting his touch back after injury will play 1-2 top games and then get injured again.
If he can managed to string 10-15 games together I believe he will tear up the opposition.

 

[Bronx Bomber]

i'd like to go on record as saying that Waite would be a better Centre Half Back than a Centre Half Forward.

I'd like to go on record saying that Jarrad Waite will one day be the captain of the Carlton Footy Club.

 

[as0l0]

I'd like to go on record saying that Jarrad Waite will one day be the captain of the Carlton Footy Club.

I can agree with that.

 

[btdg]

To this point in his career, Waite has been inconsistent, varying between great and average as some have noted here. Thats normal for young players - what separates great from good players is that as they develop they close the gap between their best and worst efforts and contribute every game. Waite is getting to the stage in his career where he might start to do that. The main problem is the lack of young talent around him in similar situations; he was drafted smack in the middle of our draft penalties stage, so he's pretty much the only young guy in that situation now (with others, Walker, Murphy, Simpson, Russell, Hartlett, Blackwell a year or two behind), so the focus is on him to develop this year... or we get nothing.

Pity he's injured, would have been nice to give him a clear opportunity to show what he's got. Still, a long way to go in the year

 

[HBF]

Has a heap to talent and, dare I say it, a heap of potential. IMO, he needs to improve his kicking, in particular his shots on goal.

Another one of our young kids who I just hope keeps improving over the next few years.

 

[knackers27]

In my opinion I think that Jarred Waite's performance and value to the carlton Football club have been severly underestimated, we have been playing better footy as a club due to the fact that he can hold down the chf position.

It has enabled whitnall to play down back, which everyone will agree is working. He is quick and a good mark which means backmen have to respect him cause we will send the ball through him.

He has straightened us up aswell, gives us a real target at chf (not saying lance wasn't but they are different players) who competes really well, takes alot of marks and makes good decisions.

I think one of his main assets is his tackling and pressure he puts on the opposition when we don't have the ball in our forward line, he along with betts and the new fevola are the main reasons why our forward line is much more productive.

Don't under estimate the value of jarred Waite to Carlton as his value does not have to show up on the stat sheet, although that getting better too.