Which team is closer to a flag: Richmond or North Melbourne?

[Samthegun]

North Melmond.

 

[juss]

Last two year North has been one win from the GF and Richmond are yet to win a final.
Would have made the GF last year without the "rub of the green" Wegales BS.

Thats the point though, with the age of your list North are primed for right now, Richmond for the next few years. North probably closer in 2016, Richmond 17/18/19

 

[Dunger]

North copped a flogging in the 2014 PF - biggest losing margin for the 2014 finals (71 points).

Couldn't kick straight against West Coast in the 2015 PF (kicked 7.13).

They'll go the distance and make finals in 2016 but choke like the last two years. Just like Trent* and the boys have done in the EF.




* denotes the 2012 Brownlow medallist.

 

[Kimbo]

They'll go the distance and make finals in 2016 but choke like the last two years. Just like Trent* and the boys have done in the EF.

* denotes the missing 2012 Brownlow medallist.

efa

 

[Moshie The Mook]

North are massive chokers in Prelims. They'll have a few finals wins on the back of the oldest list in the AFL. When it comes to the crunch though, they just flap about. Won't get anywhere near a flag with that list.

 

[KOLOKOTRONIS]

On the balance of lists alone it has to be Richmond, however a couple of injuries can see them crumble totally. They do not have hawthorn like depth, or mental toughness when the shit has hit the fan. If Richmond had a recent home and away record against geelong as hawthorn did leading into the 2013 pf, they would have crumbled. They couldn't do a 14,15 hawthorn either. The adversity the club faced was massive.

Richmond have failed on the big stage, whilst north have been impressive in some cut throat finals.

KOLOKOTRONIS

 

[juss]

On the balance of lists alone it has to be Richmond, however a couple of injuries can see them crumble totally. They do not have hawthorn like depth, or mental toughness when the shit has hit the fan. If Richmond had a recent home and away record against geelong as hawthorn did leading into the 2013 pf, they would have crumbled. They couldn't do a 14,15 hawthorn either. The adversity the club faced was massive.

Richmond have failed on the big stage, whilst north have been impressive in some cut throat finals.

KOLOKOTRONIS

Nice way of weaving in how good the Hawks are in a thread that has nothing to do with them

 

[Ron The Bear]

Richmond needs to unlock the finals mystery, North needs to avoid succumbing to age. Think North is much more likely to decline in 2016; history suggests mature-age recruits like Higgins and Waite are unlikely to repeat the form of their first year. Whether Richmond can make the jump up is another matter.

 

[KOLOKOTRONIS]

Nice way of weaving in how good the Hawks are in a thread that has nothing to do with them

Well every club should aspire to what hawthorn has managed since the start of 2008. The points are valid. Mental toughness is the key..

KOLOKOTRONIS

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Nice way of weaving in how good the Hawks are in a thread that has nothing to do with them

You shouldn't be surprised, surely.

Hawfie 101. Puff that chest out, even in a thread completely unrelated.

 

[yyou]

Impossible to tell as neither can win one in the near future, so their next flag will contain lots of new players
IMO

 

[Tiger71]

lol

 

[tunksy]

Why not both?

 

[dylan93]

Tiges by a country mile!

 

[smasha]

North copped a flogging in the 2014 PF - biggest losing margin for the 2014 finals (71 points).

Couldn't kick straight against West Coast in the 2015 PF (kicked 7.13).

They'll go the distance and make finals in 2016 but choke like the last two years. Just like Trent* and the boys have done in the EF.




* denotes the 2012 Brownlow medallist.

Cheeky.

 

[Tas]

North are massive chokers in Prelims. They'll have a few finals wins on the back of the oldest list in the AFL. When it comes to the crunch though, they just flap about. Won't get anywhere near a flag with that list.

We choked against the Eagles? Hawks got bent over there in Perth while we took it to them and the atrocious umpiring helped to get them back into the contest, after that we started to miss a few too many shots and they made the most of their opportunities and home ground advantage. It is exceptionally difficult to win prelims on the road.

 

[CFC_JP]

North.

 

[TheKanga]

North are closer.
Richmond can't even beat us in an elimination final.

 

[TheKanga]

Richmond have got to be the most overrated team in recent memory.
They are nowhere near premiership quality.

 

[Dan]

A team that can't get past the 1st week of the finals has zero chance.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Richmond have got to be the most overrated team in recent memory.
They are nowhere near premiership quality.

Neither are north.

 

[Bigeasy]

Neither are north.

One step away is closer than 3

 

[MaddAdam]

I voted Richmond, because while I see North as the bigger flag threat this year, I think Richmond are going to be a better chance of winning one in the forseeable future, given that they are gradually adding the pieces of their puzzle and won't fall off a cliff any time soon, like North probably will.

This actually makes no sense.

 

[juss]

One step away is closer than 3

But that was the previous years. Thats not an automatic that youll get there again and neither is Richmond losing.

Tbh unlesd either side finishes top 4 in the H&A they wont win the flag so thats the first debate.

 

[the big lebowski]

Tbh unlesd either side finishes top 4 in the H&A they wont win the flag so thats the first debate.

This is the truth of the matter