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Most people would agree 4x Premiership coach Al Clarkson is the clear top choice, so who is the second best current AFL coach? Would love to hear the reasoning behind your choice too.
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Who is the #2 coach in the AFL behind Clarkson?
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Probably Clarkson behind Hardwick for me.
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One of the other blokes you didn't list.
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Has to be Hardwick, has genuinely built a great Richmond side which I wasn't sure I'd see in my lifetime.
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Would just like to point out the naivety of people in this thread. Dimma at #2 lol? The answer is obvsiously Luke Beveridge.
It's looking like Buckley is on track for #2 for next years version of this thread
It's looking like Buckley is on track for #2 for next years version of this thread
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Would say Longmire personally, he's taken Sydney to 3 grand finals, 1 one of them and has consistently kept the Swans a threat during his tenure.
He hasn't 1 anything without COLA
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Would Chris Scott have won a flag if he didn't inherit an established team?
You can nit pick any coach if you put them under the microscope
That's a surprise to me. Hardwick took over a better side than what Clarkson did and it took him 8 seasons to win a final. After 7, he was on the verge of being sacked. He has obviously turned them around very well and they have a flag to show for it.
Clarkson however took the worst list in the comp to a flag within 4 years. By his 7th season he had rebuilt the list again and won a three-peat, with a number of tactical changes along the way to keep them at the top.
I feel Hardwick has a way to go to match that - perhaps at least win half as many flags first?
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Any coach who hasn't won a flag should not be in this poll.
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Yeah but you're only as good as your last season so Hardwick > Clarkson
It seems Clarko has a fair bit of catching up to do.
How is Clarkson #2 then? By your own logic, Clarkson is the 12th best coach. Oh, and Alan Richardson > Al Clarkson.
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Yep because his team that he coached finished higher.
Do you apply the same logic to players? You know, Will Langford > Patty Cripps for example, regardless of who else they have to work with?
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Went Lyon for his longevity but I feel Simpson will be the man to take the number 2 mantle.
Has done a bloody good job at West Coast and has them flying when they were tipped for bottom 4
Has done a bloody good job at West Coast and has them flying when they were tipped for bottom 4
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No because a player is responsible their own play and not the team.
Also anyone can see that Patty Cripps is a far superior player.
Anyway, obviously Clarkson is number one.
He's the only current coach that could genuinely take the mantle for GOAT coach.
It would be Longmire or Hardwick for me, if Bomber was still coaching he would be the right answer but he's not.
Probably Hardwick over Longmire because of the dominance of the Tigers finals series.
Never thought I'd ever say that.
Things change quickly though.
They sure do - appreciate the genuine response.
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Which other coaches have a flag, Longmire, Worsfold, Hardwick, Chris Scott and Luke Beveridge.
Of those, which have had long periods of winning football, Longmire, Scott and Worsfold.
Which are tactically in touch now, arguably Longmire and Scott.
Given Longmires recent GF appearances, I would tip him. However, if Hardwick has a winning season and snags another flag, two flags>1. Also worth noting, Longmire and Scott both stepped into culturally strong clubs, so sure, maybe Hardwick had a long period without success, but Richmond were shite. If he grabs another flag, much like Clarkson and Bomber Thompson before him, he will have taken a shithouse club to the top and stayed there.
Of those, which have had long periods of winning football, Longmire, Scott and Worsfold.
Which are tactically in touch now, arguably Longmire and Scott.
Given Longmires recent GF appearances, I would tip him. However, if Hardwick has a winning season and snags another flag, two flags>1. Also worth noting, Longmire and Scott both stepped into culturally strong clubs, so sure, maybe Hardwick had a long period without success, but Richmond were shite. If he grabs another flag, much like Clarkson and Bomber Thompson before him, he will have taken a shithouse club to the top and stayed there.
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No, this is terrible revisionism.
Clarkson built a team that played in 5 GF's, beat the Cats at the top of their game, and managed a threepeat. He did this starting from a shithouse position and is now taking a list that was turned over, back up the ladder.
He is a way better coach than Hardwick and only Bomber Thompson in recent years is close.
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Hey mate, would you mind taking a look at post 17?
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Brad Scott. He managed to get a pretty average North team to back-to-back prelims.
And this year, he has taken a side many tipped to be bottom two and made them into a very, very formidable side.
And this year, he has taken a side many tipped to be bottom two and made them into a very, very formidable side.
Was just about to say this. If you had to choose one, which Scott would you have?
Very impressed with What Hardwick has achieved (finally), but he took his sweet time about it, and (just like Clarko) ran close to the guillotine before it turned his way. Clarkson obviously cashed in heavily with the three peat, and is now 'thereabouts' with a far inferior side this year.
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Formidable?.....In what universe is win one, lose one 'formidable'?
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Tough to beat. Have a game style the players have bought into and give effort every week.
North are just about one of the few sides this year as a supporter you would know what you are going to get most weeks.
