Opinion Who should be the North coach?

[Elite Master]

What about Nick Maxwell?

Jamie Macmillan

 

[DesertRoo]

Waitey...

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/26/waites-advice-for-under-fire-brad-scott/



Former North Melbourne key forward Jarrad Waite has some advice for Brad Scott, suggesting a few positional changes to get the team firing again.

The Roos currently sit 18th on the ladder with one win from five games and the forward line has stuttered since Waite’s retirement.




The 36-year-old feels the club needs to play two key forwards and relocate Mason Wood.

“What worked for us (Waite and Ben Brown) was I was the agility guy, I was working around him and staying out of his way because I knew where he was leading,” Waite told SEN’s The Curtain Raiser.

“If I saw the ball coming down and I wasn’t hitting up at the ball, I would know Brown was hitting up at the ball and I went around the back of him.

“It’s just working together. I think Nick Larkey is that player for North. His agility is very good. He can come at the ball, but his ability to run the arc, same with Mason Wood.

“I feel like they’re playing him in the wrong position, I’d be playing him across half back because he has elite endurance, he’s got a great kicking style, but he’s not a key forward. He’s a third forward and that’s why I think it’s not working at the moment.

“They need to get that forward line gelling and if I was in Brad Scott’s position, I would put Larkey in and play him the whole year.”


No wonder we get narky around here.

Righto which one of you is Waitey?
I’m sure these ideas have been posted a dozen times here.

 

[Billy Not Really]

Waitey...

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/26/waites-advice-for-under-fire-brad-scott/



Former North Melbourne key forward Jarrad Waite has some advice for Brad Scott, suggesting a few positional changes to get the team firing again.

The Roos currently sit 18th on the ladder with one win from five games and the forward line has stuttered since Waite’s retirement.




The 36-year-old feels the club needs to play two key forwards and relocate Mason Wood.

“What worked for us (Waite and Ben Brown) was I was the agility guy, I was working around him and staying out of his way because I knew where he was leading,” Waite told SEN’s The Curtain Raiser.

“If I saw the ball coming down and I wasn’t hitting up at the ball, I would know Brown was hitting up at the ball and I went around the back of him.

“It’s just working together. I think Nick Larkey is that player for North. His agility is very good. He can come at the ball, but his ability to run the arc, same with Mason Wood.

“I feel like they’re playing him in the wrong position, I’d be playing him across half back because he has elite endurance, he’s got a great kicking style, but he’s not a key forward. He’s a third forward and that’s why I think it’s not working at the moment.

“They need to get that forward line gelling and if I was in Brad Scott’s position, I would put Larkey in and play him the whole year.”


No wonder we get narky around here.

You know its a problem when we're banging on about this exact suggestion and the only one to even mention this publically is W80 who's making better coaching moves than Brad Scott is.

 

[Val Keating]

Waitey...

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/26/waites-advice-for-under-fire-brad-scott/



Former North Melbourne key forward Jarrad Waite has some advice for Brad Scott, suggesting a few positional changes to get the team firing again.

The Roos currently sit 18th on the ladder with one win from five games and the forward line has stuttered since Waite’s retirement.




The 36-year-old feels the club needs to play two key forwards and relocate Mason Wood.

“What worked for us (Waite and Ben Brown) was I was the agility guy, I was working around him and staying out of his way because I knew where he was leading,” Waite told SEN’s The Curtain Raiser.

“If I saw the ball coming down and I wasn’t hitting up at the ball, I would know Brown was hitting up at the ball and I went around the back of him.

“It’s just working together. I think Nick Larkey is that player for North. His agility is very good. He can come at the ball, but his ability to run the arc, same with Mason Wood.

“I feel like they’re playing him in the wrong position, I’d be playing him across half back because he has elite endurance, he’s got a great kicking style, but he’s not a key forward. He’s a third forward and that’s why I think it’s not working at the moment.

“They need to get that forward line gelling and if I was in Brad Scott’s position, I would put Larkey in and play him the whole year.”


No wonder we get narky around here.

Really like the idea of Wood off half back. It would build his confidence too

 

[Mr north man]

Jamie Macmillan

What about Nick Maxwell?

Eddie won't let him go to another just like his Boyfriend Buckley plus I doubt Maxwell would want to leave a club that has heaps of this $$$ plus everything laid out for him might dent his ego if not successful at a lowly ranked Victorian club for support and talent.

 

[tazaa]

They asked Waite about the mid season draft. They being KB.
He kicked 5.3 on the weekend but he just doesn’t have the desire anymore.

 

[Paganism mark II]

Whoever is our next coach has to get rid of Crocker and Tudor.

Get Ratten, whatever it takes

 

[shintemaster]

They asked Waite about the mid season draft. They being KB.
He kicked 5.3 on the weekend but he just doesn’t have the desire anymore.

Probably fair enough. Watching our team I'm not sure I'd want a game if they called me in desperation this week...

 

[The acurate one]

" who should be our coach"......I gotta 10 am meeting.... I'll ask.

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

Barrett mentioned that if the losses continue, there will be a mutual parting of ways this year.

 

[Tas]

Barrett mentioned that if the losses continue, there will be a mutual parting of ways this year.

It is really sad that if it pans out this way, I mean after 9 years at the club you would assume a coach would want to move on to new challenges, perhaps something bigger and to bow out after feeling he has achieved what he wanted to achieve. It would be a shame if after all this time he is going to bow out without any success as most of the players who remained loyal to him seem like they are going to as well.

There have been some chronic blunders we have made in particular over-rated our list and where we are at, if Brad walks, there should be a congo line behind him of people who failed the club.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Did anyone else hear The Other Scott (Chris) on SEN after 9am? He was asked a question about compromised drafts etc and how Geelong had been affected, or how they’d capitalised on that period. He said there was no question the compromised drafts had helped Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney etc remain up top as the middle rung clubs lacked the opportunity to catch-up through top draft selections. He went on and, to my ear at least, it sounded like he was laying down a defence for his brother’s situation, saying “some of those affected teams, despite being expected to drop right away, continued to be competitive and exceed expectations and they’re now copping heat for starting this season poorly. I’d actually suggest that they’ve done well to ride out the tough period but they’re now showing signs of having zero access to top up via the draft during that difficult period.”

 

[Uber Roo]

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And I claim that Clarkson is part of the Pagan coaching tree [emoji4]


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[Themanbun]

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The way he remained calm and picked apart Carlton after getting jumped in the first quarter was amazing.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Tas]

Did anyone else hear The Other Scott (Chris) on SEN after 9am? He was asked a question about compromised drafts etc and how Geelong had been affected, or how they’d capitalised on that period. He said there was no question the compromised drafts had helped Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney etc remain up top as the middle rung clubs lacked the opportunity to catch-up through top draft selections. He went on and, to my ear at least, it sounded like he was laying down a defence for his brother’s situation, saying “some of those affected teams, despite being expected to drop right away, continued to be competitive and exceed expectations and they’re now copping heat for starting this season poorly. I’d actually suggest that they’ve done well to ride out the tough period but they’re now showing signs of having zero access to top up via the draft during that difficult period.”

I don't think the compromised drafts helped us, however, our poor development was more of an issue than the lack of quality picks imo.

Gold Coast started to get some access to youth from 2009, 2010 they hit the VFL and got access to some more but the biggest impact on the draft was 2010, we finished 9th and ended up with pick #17, if you finished in the bottom 4 you still got a decent pick, WCE who won the spoon got Gaff at #4, Brisbane got Polec at #5, Richmond Conca at #6 and Essendon Heppell at #8.

I think Atley was a pretty good get at #17, we just ****ed his development. We also got Harper at #27 who we were looking at for #17 and we ****ed his development as well. We ended up with Polec who went #5 in this draft and Jacobs went #16,

GWS was given a lot more access to talent, in 2011 we finished 9th again and ended up with pick #18 in the draft, only the bottom 3 teams ended up with a top 10 pick, Gold Coast got O'Meara with the mini draft, Port got Wingard at #6 and Brisbane Longer at #8. We ended up with McKenzie which I think was a surprise at #18. We were no monty to do much better with a pick 10 as the talent was hit or miss even around there. We also got Curran in the second round who had a good pair of hands, nothing came of it.

We ended up with Tyson who went pick #3 in that draft.

2012 we moved up one spot into #8 and it was the infamous 96 point elimination final drubbing and our first round pick was #15, there wasn't a lot wrong with Garner other than his body can't handle football. Probably a few clubs now regret passing on Grundy who went #18 but Goldy was quite young in 2012 and he was on the rise, we were probably gun shy because we had to get the shotgun and blanket out for Hale and McIntosh and probably didn't want to risk blowing another first round pick on someone we would end up shopping cheaply later on.

We got Garner #15, Jacobs #37 and Wood #41, also elevated Daw to the senior list. We did fairly well in terms of talent from this draft. Jacobs would bust as a ball-getter before becoming one of the best taggers I have ever seen. Garner could have been a great player had he been able to get on the park. Wood is probably the biggest disappointment because we haven't really got the best out of him, I think Hawks would have turned him into a better Gunston given his superior attributes.

The other drafts weren't compromised. I think if we had the Hawthorn coaching/development people, and their resources at that time compared to ours, I think we would have ended up with a lot better than we did.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Yep. The compromised drafts argument falls down when you look at our drafting and player development under the current regime.

 

[giantroo]

Did anyone else hear The Other Scott (Chris) on SEN after 9am? He was asked a question about compromised drafts etc and how Geelong had been affected, or how they’d capitalised on that period. He said there was no question the compromised drafts had helped Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney etc remain up top as the middle rung clubs lacked the opportunity to catch-up through top draft selections. He went on and, to my ear at least, it sounded like he was laying down a defence for his brother’s situation, saying “some of those affected teams, despite being expected to drop right away, continued to be competitive and exceed expectations and they’re now copping heat for starting this season poorly. I’d actually suggest that they’ve done well to ride out the tough period but they’re now showing signs of having zero access to top up via the draft during that difficult period.”

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=364325

 

[Wild Kangaroo]

Simpson or Longmire.

 

[Sillygit]

Good points around the ball movement, then complete crap around port "getting rid of" players, and no context around our ins.

 

[Mav]

I’d love to do a Freo and steal Lyon from under their nose

 

[Joey7]

the selection culture and precedence that he has set over his period coaching will ultimately be his downfall becasue noone is accountable for performance

 

[shintemaster]

the selection culture and precedence that he has set over his period coaching will ultimately be his downfall becasue noone is accountable for performance

There's more to it than selection - the style we plan for has issues IMO - but I agree completely. Honestly, I struggle to think of genuine, fit, established senior players that have been dropped in the last few years. We just keep bringing them back in until they are a complete write off, there appears to be little system for understanding players contribution to the whole. It's not that there is never a good replacement either, there is always this feel that the structure is so all powerful that no borderline 22 player could possibly replace an established player. We've been frantically chasing elite talent for 3+ years when we should be more interested in sifting our own talent. Even this year we brought in Pittard - who has been very good - but instead of replacing the weakest links in our backline he was added to them. Surely there is more to building a strong team than constantly adding okay players to the best 22? At some point do we not achieve depth in specific positions and then make strategic choices about the specific skillsets we value over others. What do we value in footballers? If it's kicking skills, 2 way running or creativity I struggle to see how we have encouraged this via selection and recruiting. It just feels like we are constantly looking to tweak what we have rather than creatively expose other teams.

 

[The acurate one]

Goes a bit beyond just coaching, we're paying for years of poor drafting.

We haven't got strong character off field except for Scott who pretty well runs the show. Buckley is a step down from Brayshaw. Joyce does what he's told etc.

We need to use this ASAP.