Society/Culture Why Australia needs to lower its immigration intake

[Gethelred]

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Vic - Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

https://www.dca.org.au/news/news-articles/victorian-african-crime

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Let's stay on topic from here.

 

[Seeds]

What an ignorant take

How so? What has been missed?

 

[Gralin]

Higher Education is open to all in australia through merit based results.

Not open to everyone then is it

Yes some have advantages that make it easier to gain the scores to higher education (not having to work jobs in high school and better teachers at private school) but higher education is open to all.

No, if it was open to all, anyone who applied would be accepted

This isnt the 19th century. The race is open to all even if the hurdles are higher for some.

You keep saying open to all but making excuses

Most of the intelligent people who put in the effort arent working low paying jobs.

Ah yes moralistic views of success and poverty

 

[GrayRanga]

Higher Education is open to all in australia through merit based results. Yes some have advantages that make it easier to gain the scores to higher education (not having to work jobs in high school and better teachers at private school) but higher education is open to all. This isnt the 19th century. The race is open to all even if the hurdles are higher for some. Most of the intelligent people who put in the effort arent working low paying jobs.

When is your take on society going to be published in The Australian, guest commentary on Andrew Bolt, or policy advisor with the Liberal Party or tenure with the IPA?

As an intelligent person with suh an insight into Australian society, the best and greatest would be snaffled up by these august bodies

But in the interim the guy is commenting on BF

 

[Seeds]

Not open to everyone then is it

No, if it was open to all, anyone who applied would be accepted

You keep saying open to all but making excuses

Ah yes moralistic views of success and poverty

Its open to all regardless of wealth is clearly what I meant. I dont see how thats ignorant as the system we should want is for higher education to be open to those and only those who satisfy certain levels of performance in lower levels of education, whether that be at high school or in tafe. If you cant satisfy those levels then higher education, in my view, is a waste or worse, it becomes corrupted and standards fall. I dont want rich kids who perform poorly at high school getting places in higher education even if they are paying for it all themselves as I believe it corrupts the level of education.

Do you say driving is not open to all because we deny licenses to people to who fail their driving test? Because to me it seems you are making the equivalent argument with education. If not how so?

We should be aiming to lower the higher hurdles that kids from poor backgrounds face in lower levels of education so they have an equal shot at getting the results required. But in my view they still do need to get those higher results just like everyone else.

 

[Gralin]

Its open to all regardless of wealth is clearly what I meant. I dont see how thats ignorant as the system we should want is for higher education to be open to those and only those who satisfy certain levels of performance in lower levels of education, whether that be at high school or in tafe. If you cant satisfy those levels then higher education, in my view, is a waste or worse, it becomes corrupted and standards fall. I dont want rich kids who perform poorly at high school getting places in higher education even if they are paying for it all themselves as I believe it corrupts the level of education.

Do you say driving is not open to all because we deny licenses to people to who fail their driving test? Because to me it seems you are making the equivalent argument with education. If not how so?

We should be aiming to lower the higher hurdles that kids from poor backgrounds face in lower levels of education so they have an equal shot at getting the results required. But in my view they still do need to get those higher results just like everyone else.

I dunno man I feel like if you're claiming higher education is open to all you should actually support it being open to all

But apparently to you, people getting access to education should be based on your personal definition of worthiness

Which again isn't open to all

It's almost like you're full if shit

 

[Carringbush2010]

Its open to all regardless of wealth is clearly what I meant. I dont see how thats ignorant as the system we should want is for higher education to be open to those and only those who satisfy certain levels of performance in lower levels of education, whether that be at high school or in tafe. If you cant satisfy those levels then higher education, in my view, is a waste or worse, it becomes corrupted and standards fall. I dont want rich kids who perform poorly at high school getting places in higher education even if they are paying for it all themselves as I believe it corrupts the level of education.

But but but, not inclusive enough!!

Merit is right wing and should be cancelled.

 

[Gralin]

But but but, not inclusive enough!!

Merit is right wing and should be cancelled.

Serious question Carrie

Do you think everyone deserves access to education and learning?

If so, at what point do you start drawing a line in who still deserves access?

Because that's what we're talking about here

 

[Gethelred]

Oh, we're about to play Carringbush2010 Bingo!

Put me down for, "Where did I say I didn't want that?" and, "That's just your misinterpretation of what I said!"

The centre square is, "Always the apples, never the barrel."

 

[Chief]

We should be aiming to lower the higher hurdles that kids from poor backgrounds face in lower levels of education so they have an equal shot at getting the results required. But in my view they still do need to get those higher results just like everyone else.

Are you prepared to back that up and TRULY support what is needed to lift up underprivileged and isolated kids so they can perform to their potential?

 

[Gough]

We need more private school kids failing first year Arts because they discover they're not special for the first time.

 

[Gough]

Former education minister.

Australia's education system is out of step, former SA deputy premier says

South Australia's former deputy premier Susan Close has called out what she describes as "extreme" socio-economic segregation in Australian schools.

www.abc.net.au

 

[faible]

Yes some have advantages

the hurdles are higher for some

Yes.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

We need more private school kids failing first year Arts because they discover they're not special for the first time.

It's not just private school kids.

Year 12 students are mollycoddled. They are taught to be dependant on the schooling system.

They are then told how finishing Year 12 was such a huge achievement and that it was such a big challenge, that most of them go into relax mode in first year of uni.

Uni doesn't give a shit if you turn up or not.

 

[ferball]

Of course, the root cause of mass migration is American, Israeli and British imperialism. Largely the first 2 these days.
We also have a hand in it as well purely because we're lapdogs to these powers.

When you stir shit around the globe killing millions for resources, destroying the homes of those remaining alive, installing puppet governments that are corrupt as **** to keep the flow of those resources going, you will end up with a lot of displaced people looking for a better life.

Even those often referred to as economic migrants are looking to live elsewhere because the above mentioned imperialism has severely stunted the growth and progress of their homelands.

But because the obscenely wealthy have done such a good job of brainwashing these rubes, they just point the finger at the brown people as instructed to.
They don't even have to be migrants either, look at the attitude these **** wits have to the first nations people here.

God bless the Irish too, one of the few countries with proper balls at the moment, and showing others how it's done.

The only reason Europe has any wealth is that they spent 500 years stealing it from Africa, Asia and the Americas. (And Australia I spose. And Ireland for that matter.)