Society/Culture Why has political discussion become an utter shambles?

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. Labor, so far, has not shown a similar move to the left, but that is no doubt largely to do with the fact they often have greater control over who runs where nationally, rather than leaving it up to local branches.

You would think they would have learned their lesson by now. When they flirt with the hard left ie greens they lose votes. See Gillard federally and Tasmania at state level.
 
You would think they would have learned their lesson by now. When they flirt with the hard left ie greens they lose votes. See Gillard federally and Tasmania at state level.

All of them would sell their grandmother for one vote yet the cheerleaders swear they are principled. ALL, not some.
 

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