Why Hughes?

[austyn08]

The lad has deficiencies in his technique and now test teams know how to exploit them.
I dont think he knows how to fix them because he just goes about it naturally.

 

[breeno]

How do we know they know how to exploit these "flaws". Tremlett bowled a regulation middle and off good ball, Hughes went out; that's hardly master tacticianing right there, just good bowling.

 

[BACCS]

Smith, Hughes and Khawaja have all done better with the bat than klinger, white, Hussey and macdonald in the past 3 years. Look at the stats.

And theyre younger.

Klinger was the dominant batsman in the Shield for the last couple of seasons before this one (2008/2009 and 2009/2010 seasons). He was the state player of the year for 2009 and 2010 for christ sakes. He has certainly been better than Smith, Hughes and Khawaja in the past 3 years.

 

[The Passenger]

ball was a pretty standard ball you can expect to get early on in your innings as an opener.

he played right across the line with little footwork and leaving a huge gap. it's the sort of shot you shouldn't be looking to play until your at the crease for an hour - an even then that's questionable.

 

[The Passenger]

No batsman can nor EVER will be able to win a game off their own bat, All they can do is avoid the team losing or make it impossible for the other side to win.

You can make 800 runs it counts for nothing if you can't take 20 wickets.

So bastmen can't be match winners? Alrighty then.

Seriously dude, go away, stop stalking me, you're exceptionally annoying.

Um, seriously? You can take 20 wickets every game, it counts for nothing if you don't have the runs on the board.

You bat twice, you bowl twice. Both are as important as each other.

whilst batsmen can be match winners, you need bowlers more than you need batsmen to win test cricket.

if you can't take 20 wickets you can not win. at the moment, we are incapable of taking 20 wickets in a match. so barring declerations from the opposition, we won't win test matches. matches like that adelaide oval 06/07 match are very very rare.

The way our team is playing at the moment we are scoring about 500 to 700 runs each test match. you can win matches with those totals. it's difficult. but you can win if your bowlers are good enough. teams win all the time with those sort of totals.

 

[sherb]

I've heard the Hughes shot referred to as "expansive", "millionnaire", "going for glory", amongst a host of other things. This bewilders me. It was a bloody leg glance! He would have been looking to nudge it to the on side for a single! The ball swung in a long way off a good length, missed the bat, took a deflection off the thigh and hit the stumps. It was a bloody good ball, which got past what would otherwise have been a fairly regulation single.

Leg glance?

Rightio then.....

 

[KiwiRoo]

Awful technique that is completely suspect to short bowling. Suppose he's lucky they can't bowl more than 2 bouncers in an over. Even still he's not that talented. It's like saying Johnson is talented, when he isn't. England just worked out that you don't swing at his Left Arm Ratshit outside of off stump and you won't get out to him.

Johnson not talented ?!.So how many other cricketers do you know of that can bowl 150kmh and score test centuries ?

He's out of form not out of talent

Hughes is also out of form, not talent too. You dont score test centuries against South Africas attack without some talent.

Steve waugh had the same accusations about an inability to counter the short ball..and did get out to it..but he probably got a 100 first !

 

[Bomber Bears]

Klinger was the dominant batsman in the Shield for the last couple of seasons before this one (2008/2009 and 2009/2010 seasons). He was the state player of the year for 2009 and 2010 for christ sakes. He has certainly been better than Smith, Hughes and Khawaja in the past 3 years.

Smith yes, but not Hughes or Khawaja.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Leg glance?

Rightio then.....

It was pretty obviously a leg glance. Should've blocked it, no doubt, but was hardly trying to cream the ball.
Same way I got out on Sunday actually, misread the line of one i could've blocked.

 

[Subprime]

It was pretty obviously a leg glance. Should've blocked it, no doubt, but was hardly trying to cream the ball.
Same way I got out on Sunday actually, misread the line of one i could've blocked.

Leg glance my arse. The ball hit the top of off-stump.

Leg glances go to fine leg. If Hughes had hit that ball it would have gone in front of square.

 

[breeno]

Leg glance my arse. The ball hit the top of off-stump.

Leg glances go to fine leg. If Hughes had hit that ball it would have gone in front of square.

Think he's thinking of the flick through mid-wicket.

 

[Subprime]

Think he's thinking of the flick through mid-wicket.

Leg-glance in woolongongese I suppose.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Ok, the point was he wasn't trying to smack it, he was trying to push it for a run. Wrong shot but people are carrying on like he tried to heave it to cow corner.

I like that you cant spell Wollongong though.

 

[Subprime]

Ok, the point was he wasn't trying to smack it, he was trying to push it for a run. Wrong shot but people are carrying on like he tried to heave it to cow corner.

I like that you cant spell Wollongong though.

Nice deflection to the spelling. Pity Hughes didn't get some bat on his attempted deflection eh?

Either that or learn to play a forward defensive stroke.

 

[sherb]

It was pretty obviously a leg glance. Should've blocked it, no doubt, but was hardly trying to cream the ball.
Same way I got out on Sunday actually, misread the line of one i could've blocked.

It was not a leg glance. It was nothing like a leg glance.

 

[Slax]

Smith yes, but not Hughes or Khawaja.

HUghes has scored 203 runs this summer at 20.3 how can you try and say that is acceptable.

Khawaja is the best batsmen going around in 1st class this summer.

 

[sherb]

Ok, the point was he wasn't trying to smack it, he was trying to push it for a run. Wrong shot but people are carrying on like he tried to heave it to cow corner.

I like that you cant spell Wollongong though.

I'll forgive someone a minor spelling error over someone on a cricket forum who hasn't got the slightest idea what a leg glance is.

Hughes was trying to play a forcing shot through midwicket, across the line, from a ball that was initially headed to middle and off.

 

[Bomber Bears]

I dont think it was a forcing shot, it was the wrong shot but even if not a glance was still just a push into the leg side (glancing motion if not the right direction of a glance).

I guess I always just associated leg glance with flicking it on the leg side, not just behind square, obviously I've made an error there and so I give my deepest apologies. Maybe my short term memory is worse than I thought and I cant accurately remember the shot, but I definately know what a leg glance is, having got out to the bloody twice in about 3 weeks!

 

[Bomber Bears]

HUghes has scored 203 runs this summer at 20.3 how can you try and say that is acceptable.

Khawaja is the best batsmen going around in 1st class this summer.

No that's not acceptable at all, and I have said elsewhere he probably shouldnt have been picked not in form. But Baacs said over three years, and Hughes performances over three years have been excellent, despite his last 5-6 games being poor.

 

[Tazwegian]

Hughes is a super talent. I would have alos preferred to see Khawa come in, but give Hughes a chance! I know he is out of form, but that can turn around in 30 mins of cricket, the guy averages 50 in Test cricket, he can't be all bad.

 

[Slax]

No that's not acceptable at all, and I have said elsewhere he probably shouldnt have been picked not in form. But Baacs said over three years, and Hughes performances over three years have been excellent, despite his last 5-6 games being poor.

Once you got a couple of month's into a season then what happened last year is as useful for selection as what happened 20 years ago. Players must be selected on current form, if you select on reputation you get what has happened so far this summer.

Hughes may well find the form that makes him a test opening batsman, but you can't be expecting someone who can't find it in a Shield match to find it in a test match.

 

[Tazwegian]

Hughes may well find the form that makes him a test opening batsman, but you can't be expecting someone who can't find it in a Shield match to find it in a test match.

Not sure that I entirely agree. Form is fickle and fleeting, talent is not. Always selecting purely on form can lead to choosing inferior players just because they happen to be in a purple patch.

 

[smoovy]

Pick your best batsman and then pick your openers. Watson and Katich were relatively successful as test openers and both of them are middle order batsman for their state.

 

[Tom12]

Hughes has done nothing in Shield cricket, but if there was a time for him to prove us wrong. It's now. Pressure on, he can deliver.

 

[Subprime]

Happy to be proven wrong, hoping in fact.