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[Woody15]

A couple of ready examples for club golfers:

• point of entry relief into a penalty area that would have required the ball to turn on a right angle.
• taking free relief. This is a personal bugbear of mine. So many people think "staked tree, I can drop within two clublengths not nearer the hole". When the actual rule is find the nearest(not nicest) point of relief - there is no choice on this, it's a question of fact - then you can drop within one clublength of that point. Reckon you could count on one hand the time you have actually seen someone do that properly.

3/4 of the golfers I've played with try to gain a few inches on the green. Shoving the marker underneath and moving the ball forward and then putting the ball miles in front of the marker. All of a sudden, they're a foot closer.

 

[chickenonachain]

I played with a bloke who kept a ball in his back pocket for emergencies, like losing his ball . I called him out fecker wanted to fight , he used to wonder why I wouldn’t play with him anymore .
This happened in the Saturday comp

 

[katana]

3/4 of the golfers I've played with try to gain a few inches on the green. Shoving the marker underneath and moving the ball forward and then putting the ball miles in front of the marker. All of a sudden, they're a foot closer.

this is a funny one - seen it a lot, and tbh i don't mind it, bit of gamesmanship as long as it's within the rules.

 

[Pres]

this is a funny one - seen it a lot, and tbh i don't mind it, bit of gamesmanship as long as it's within the rules.

It's not

 

[sideswipe]

Is it though he definitely moved that sand twice in that bunker and then the embedded ball where he got relief when the vision showed the ball bounces .
The college accusations are and were very bad, shit bloke who is very good at golf.

Classic example of how it was overblown. For a start it wasn’t a bunker and secondly, he copped a penalty for it.

Go take a look at these guys every time they get their wedges out in the rough. They love to mash!

 

[sideswipe]

It's not

And the weird thing is, in the long run the cheater/rule manipulator is really only cheating themselves.

A month or so ago in a Wednesday comp, on an early hole, one of my playing partners said to another in our group, "That one's good(it was about 6 inches away). You guys ok with playing gimmes on short ones like that?"

I said no. He said, "we aren't playing for sheep stations"

I replied, "yeah but we are playing".

To me, it was such a weird thing to want to do - if it's a gimme, you aren't doing the bloke a favour by giving it to him, and if it isn't a gimme, you are penalising the field.

And we have all missed shorties.

 

[katana]

It's not

marking and replacing your ball on the green isn't within the rules?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

marking and replacing your ball on the green isn't within the rules?

Moving it with your marker and then placing ahead of where you left your marker isn’t.

 

[Woody15]

this is a funny one - seen it a lot, and tbh i don't mind it, bit of gamesmanship as long as it's within the rules.

Gaining a foot from where you should be playing because you nudged a marker under your ball, moving it forward and then placing your ball down inches in front of your marker, is not gamesmanship. It's just straight up cheating.

 

[sideswipe]

3/4 of the golfers I've played with try to gain a few inches on the green. Shoving the marker underneath and moving the ball forward and then putting the ball miles in front of the marker. All of a sudden, they're a foot closer.

I've never seen such a thing.

 

[katana]

Gaining a foot from where you should be playing because you nudged a marker under your ball, moving it forward and then placing your ball down inches in front of your marker, is not gamesmanship. It's just straight up cheating.

well a foot is ridiculous of course. i assumed it was exaggeration.

 

[Woody15]

I've never seen such a thing.

I have far too many times unfortunately. Particularly on short putts.

 

[sideswipe]

I have far too many times unfortunately. Particularly on short putts.

We must play at different places Wood!

 

[Woody15]

We must play at different places Wood!

Usually the younger members when there is a bit of $ on the line!

 

[sideswipe]

Usually the younger members when there is a bit of $ on the line!

If they are prepared to do that on a green, I shudder to think what happens away from prying eyes!

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Gaining a foot from where you should be playing because you nudged a marker under your ball, moving it forward and then placing your ball down inches in front of your marker, is not gamesmanship. It's just straight up cheating.

Sounds like exaggeration to me. Markers are about the same size as a 20c or 50c piece. No way can someone gain a foot. Maybe an inch or two at most.

 

[sideswipe]

Sounds like exaggeration to me. Markers are about the same size as a 20c or 50c piece. No way can someone gain a foot. Maybe an inch or two at most.

You’d need to be bloody close for a gain of even a foot to make an actual difference, ie. if Tour pros have a break even distance of around 8 feet(putting on Lino) I reckon choppers might be half that or even less. So turning a 20 footer into 19 does effectively nothing.

I had a hilly 30 footer(was on in regulation) on Sunday. Was a match play event and I was looking at making an 8 footer for bogey. Luckily my opponent conceded the hole so I didn’t have to see whether I avoided the 4 putt.

 

[sideswipe]

JDay -4 after 8. Far out he is a Torrey specialist

 

[peternorth]

Why couldn't he stay out at LIV. No one missed Reed at all.

many of my acquaintances hated reed before, and hated LIV (felt it was related to where its based and religion given their views on islam). then he went to LIV and was hated even more. now all of a sudden they like "WELCOME BACK REEDY!!11!".

i've played the irish drop rule virtually my whole life. club champs excepted.

is that permitted in comps at your club (local rule)?

 

[sideswipe]

is that permitted in comps at your club (local rule)?

I'd bet my left one it isn't! As I understand it, the Irish Drop(when will they stop persecuting us with such meanness? Irish flu, etc.) means the player is hitting their 4th from the approximate point where the ball was lost/went OOB?

That's a helluva penalty. Pretty hard to scrape a one-pointer from there. And it denies you the opportunity to hit a provisional. Data shows that provisional balls are 87% more accurate.

 

[katana]

is that permitted in comps at your club (local rule)?

yeah of course, but i mean just in general too non competition play.

 

[sideswipe]

yeah of course, but i mean just in general too non competition play.

So your club has a local rule that allows for a drop to be taken at the point where a ball was lost with a 2 stroke penalty?

 

[chickenonachain]

I thought to speed up play a new rule was introduced so if your ball is oob or lost you can drop on the fairway at the nearest point to where you think it went, you are playing your fourth shot .

 

[sideswipe]

I thought to speed up play a new rule was introduced so if your ball is oob or lost you can drop on the fairway at the nearest point to where you think it went, you are playing your fourth shot .

That might be a local rule but certainly isn’t in the rules of golf.

I have one other local rule suggestion- for stroke rounds only. If a provisional ball is played, if the first one is discovered but is unplayable, the player can elect to put the provisional in play. Now it might get manipulated by a player or two here and there - but only similar to the “do you want to find it””.

What it does do is avoid a handful of players every round being forced to leg it back to the tee and delaying the field.

 

[Livonski]

We play drop where it went in and you’re hitting your 4th. Not allowed in board events.
It only gets used if you hit your drive long enough before it goes awol. If you hit a short snap hook you would play a provisional.
Rule sort of means you can hit you’re 4th at roughly where a straight prov (your 3rd) might land. Helps speed of play.