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Worst 2 Draft Selections Ever?

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cypher said:
Is a better kick and a more consistent player than Wells.

Better kick? roflmao

Wells is one the most skillful players in the comp.

they dont call him duddard for no reason :D
 
cypher said:
Josh Fraser ~ Pavlich ****s on him from a great height.

Every team passed on Pavlich initially. During the 1996-98 drafts teams were allowed to take one 17 year old. Pavlich was eligible in 1998 but in a somewhat limited sense; Des Headland was 17 and the clear #1 choice but Brisbane could not have picked up both him and Pavlich at that time. Another example was in 1997 if Melbourne hadn't traded for Jeff White and kept selection 1 and 2 they couldn't have picked up both Johnstone and Ottens as they were both 17.

Others players that were not picked up (even when teams were permitted as many 17s as they desired) when they were first eligible include Andrew McLeod in 1993, Barry Hall in 1994* and Nathan Brown in 1995.

*Barry might still have been focusing on boxing at the time and perhaps was not on the football radar.
 
larrikin said:
And on the question - McDougall may still come good, Sampi just needs to do it consitently

Considering he has shown absolutely nothing...
Your a patient man..

I wonder if your one of the eagle supporters consistently writing off Polak.
 

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Kmart Rouge said:
Better kick? roflmao

Wells is one the most skillful players in the comp.

they dont call him duddard for no reason :D

First of all, Brendon Goddard's long-kicking ability would be equal first in the comp (along with Buckley).

Second, I've never heard the term "duddard" used. It appears that you are one of the few imbeciles that do use it, and blindly believe it because it almost rhymes.
 
whippersnipper said:
Caydn Beetham at 9 in 1999 would have to be up there in recent memory.

Yep, played a couple of years, looked to be going well, then quit. Bloody ****er. He actually nominated for last year's draft, and may again this year. Anyone interested?
 
mad-saint-guy said:
First of all, Brendon Goddard's long-kicking ability would be equal first in the comp (along with Buckley).

long kicking doesnt equal better kicking :rolleyes:

mad-saint-guy said:
Second, I've never heard the term "duddard" used. It appears that you are one of the few imbeciles that do use it, and blindly believe it because it almost rhymes.

u need to get out abit more then :)
 
sabre_ac said:
Considering he has shown absolutely nothing...
Your a patient man..

I wonder if your one of the eagle supporters consistently writing off Polak.
Nope, don't write off Polak at all

McDougall has had a shocking injury run, which has reall hampered his development. I think he, and Polak, could both become fair players. Sampi at this stage has shown more than either of them, just hasn't done it consitently.
 
Kmart Rouge said:
long kicking doesnt equal better kicking :rolleyes:

Oh Jesus...I wasn't referring to HOW LONG he kicks it, I was reffering to how well he kicks it long. Very rarely do you find a player that can land a 60m drop-punt on the chest of a leading forward EVERY TIME HE GETS IT. He is even more important due to the way footy is played these days. Rather than getting the ball on the wing, running 15m before passing 30m sideways to a teammate, giving the opposition time to flood into defence, Goddard gets the ball, and kicks it. He moves the ball 60m in the space of a few seconds. No team can flood into defence that quickly. And when teams try to clog up the midfield and Goddard has it at half-back, rather than trying to kick to a midget on the boundary line, he kicks OVER the mass of 20-30 players.

You will not find anyone in the competition that is better at delivering the ball to your team's advantage than Brendon Goddard.

u need to get out abit more then :)

You need to watch a Saints game occasionally.
 

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mrbehemoth said:
Wasn't Waterhouse's problem injuries though?
I got to see alot of Waterhouse before he got drafted,when he played for the Port Magpies,and I have to say alot of people,including myself,were very surprised that he not only got drafted at No 1,but that he got drafted at all.He was an overrated hack,and I can't actually remember him ever playing a half decent game for Freo.Let's also remember that Freo gave up Andrew Mcleod for,wait for it,Chris Groom.Surely the most diabolical decision ever.Not that the Crows haven't made bad decisions.We overlooked Matthew Pavlich for Ken McGregor:o
 
danzan22 said:
i think people are forgetting clive waterhouse was pick 1 in 95
You could argue until the sun comes up whether or not Waterhouse was worth the number 1 pick, but at the time, he was a decent footballer for the style of game played in the 90's. He could do just about anything with those hands, pity the head didnt have as much talent.
 
Redlegs14 said:
I got to see alot of Waterhouse before he got drafted,when he played for the Port Magpies,and I have to say alot of people,including myself,were very surprised that he not only got drafted at No 1,but that he got drafted at all.He was an overrated hack,and I can't actually remember him ever playing a half decent game for Freo.Let's also remember that Freo gave up Andrew Mcleod for,wait for it,Chris Groom.Surely the most diabolical decision ever.Not that the Crows haven't made bad decisions.We overlooked Matthew Pavlich for Ken McGregor:o

That's not that awful. Ken McGregor's a good player.
 
Goddard best long delivary in the league? u hav got to be kidding me... mate Goddard is a mess... turns it over all the time. How can u say that wen you hav got blokes like, Buckley, Clement, Heath Black, Goodwin and Bruce... 50x more effective then Goddard and he gets no where near as much pil as those blokes. get a clue.

On the subject of worst drafts selections.

Pendlebury at 6
Aaron Fiora
Richard Cole
 
mrbehemoth said:
That's not that awful. Ken McGregor's a good player.
Let me clarify.Ken McGregor is a good player.My intention was not to denigrate Kenny.I like having him in my side,but let's be honest,he's no Matthew Pavlich.At the time he was chosen as a 17 yr old,there was genuine surprise in SA that he was chosen ahead of Pavlich.Even at 17 yrs of age,Pavlich was a gun and was playing in Woodville/West torrens league side.That's all I'm saying,but I admit my post was pretty average in regard to saying it was embarrassing.I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but Pavlich was the better player.Does that make sense?
 

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whippersnipper said:
You could argue until the sun comes up whether or not Waterhouse was worth the number 1 pick, but at the time, he was a decent footballer for the style of game played in the 90's. He could do just about anything with those hands, pity the head didnt have as much talent.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion,but as I said,my opinion was and still is that he was an average footballer at best.Freo obviously saw him as their CHF,but the guy didn't have the footy smarts to play a key position.As I say,I saw alot of him before he got drafted and was never impressed.
 
Redlegs14 said:
Let me clarify.Ken McGregor is a good player.My intention was not to denigrate Kenny.I like having him in my side,but let's be honest,he's no Matthew Pavlich.At the time he was chosen as a 17 yr old,there was genuine surprise in SA that he was chosen ahead of Pavlich.Even at 17 yrs of age,Pavlich was a gun and was playing in Woodville/West torrens league side.That's all I'm saying,but I admit my post was pretty average in regard to saying it was embarrassing.I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but Pavlich was the better player.Does that make sense?

Perfect sense. It wasn't a great choice. A genius selection when you look at some of these others though ;)
 
Redlegs14 said:
I got to see alot of Waterhouse before he got drafted,when he played for the Port Magpies,and I have to say alot of people,including myself,were very surprised that he not only got drafted at No 1,but that he got drafted at all.He was an overrated hack,and I can't actually remember him ever playing a half decent game for Freo.Let's also remember that Freo gave up Andrew Mcleod for,wait for it,Chris Groom.Surely the most diabolical decision ever.Not that the Crows haven't made bad decisions.We overlooked Matthew Pavlich for Ken McGregor:o
the demo derby was clives greatest moment at freo. BOG with 7 goals
 
Dxmxgxd said:
Goddard best long delivary in the league? u hav got to be kidding me... mate Goddard is a mess... turns it over all the time. How can u say that wen you hav got blokes like, Buckley, Clement, Heath Black, Goodwin and Bruce... 50x more effective then Goddard and he gets no where near as much pil as those blokes. get a clue.

Brendon Goddard averages 21.6 disposals per game, 7 long kicks and 2.5 errors.

Buckley averages 0.4 more disposals per game than Goddard, 2 less long kicks and 0.4 more errors.

Clement averages 4.6 less disposals, 0.7 less long kicks and 0.3 more errors.

Black averages 0.2 more disposals, 0.3 less long kicks and 0.6 more errors.

Goodwin averages 5.4 more disposals, 0.7 less long kicks and 0.7 more errors.

Bruce averages 1.1 more disposals, 2.2 less long kicks and 2.2 more errors.

Of the 5 players you mentioned, just 3 averaged more disposals, none averaged as many long kicks and they all make more errors than Goddard. More long kicks + less errors = Better delivery. Try watching a game of Aussie Rules occasionally. Or, in your words; Get a clue.
 
As much as it pains me to say it...Kane Tenace at pick 7.

I've never seen somebody shy away from the footy like Turbo does. Oh and for a bloke who is quick, he rarely uses his speed. To think he was touted as a top 3 pick just baffles me.
 
NorthBhoy said:
Deledio is a better kick than Judd. In fact, Deledio is just about the best kick of a drop punt on the move as I have seen. Sensational kick of the footy. I would describe Judd's footskills as above average, and everything else he does as superhuman stupid good.

Deledio will be a superstar. Rounded his game out very well this year. He has everything required.

Yes, spot on the money.
 

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