Worst test cricketer you've seen?

[Dippers Donuts]

Who's the biggest dud you have seen play test cricket?

For me - Brad Hogg from WA. One test in India, admittedly he was drafted into the side. Stodgy batsman, left arm chinaman bowler.

Least he got a baggy green cap out of it...

Who's yours?

 

[Jars458]

Simon O'Donnell

TESTS
(career)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 6 10 3 206 48 29.42 43.73 0 0 4 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR
Bowling 156.4 37 504 6 84.00 3-37 0 0 156.6

 

[The Doctor]

Tom Hogan, Ray Bright, Simon Davis, Chris Matthews, Greg Ritchie, Sam Gannon, Micheal Hibbert, Wayne Phillips (Vic), Jo Angel, Peter McIntyre, Peter Wilson, Scott Muller, Sean Young

just to name a few

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Yeah SOD was a dud test cricketer wasn't he (aint much better as a commentator either imo).

Another vastly overrated player (although by no means the worst I've seen) is Carl Hooper. Captains the Windies with a batting average of about 34 and a bowling average of 70. Struggle to get a game with many of our state sides I reckon.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

BTW, did Greg Campbell end up playing a test for Australia?
If not, would have to qualify as one of the worst "tourist's ever.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
BTW, did Greg Campbell end up playing a test for Australia?
If not, would have to qualify as one of the worst "tourist's ever.

He did play one test in that series - I think the first or the last as someone was injured

 

[BT]

Campbell definitely played 1 test on that 89 ashes tour.

 

[London Dave]

Campbell played two, got another game in Tassie the next Aussie season I think.

Chris Matthews from WA sprayed it around a bit i his 2(?) tests.

I think you'd have to go with some of the guys who played during WSC. Just off the top of my head, Sam Gannon, David Ogilvie were two pretty ordinary cricketers who got a few games. Did David Horne (leftie from NSW) ever get a game? And Murray Bennet...dud!

 

[Jars458]

He actually played four matches and took 13 wickets - not too bad at all relatively

TESTS
(career)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
4 4 0 10 6 2.50 15.62 0 0 1 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 158.3 29 503 13 38.69 3-79 0 0 73.1 3.17

ONE

 

[WCE2000]

I really dont like it when it people pose a question such as this. I played against plenty of players who only played one or two tests in grade cricket up in Sydney, and i can assure you, they are all brilliant cricketers.

I know people like to pose the question, but its just something i really dont like. personal choice more than anything.

 

[Ruddeger]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts


Another vastly overrated player (although by no means the worst I've seen) is Carl Hooper. Captains the Windies with a batting average of about 34 and a bowling average of 70. Struggle to get a game with many of our state sides I reckon.

I feel that seeing as I am related to him (he is married to my cousin) I should stand up for him where he can't

Sure, his figures don't really stack up, butjust from watching him you can tell that he is going at 3/4 pace at the most. His first-class batting and bowling averages of 46.29 and 35.05 stack up more favourably. As for not being able to crack a Pura Cup side, he easily took out the Ryder medal in Melbourne District cricket when he played for Carlton a couple of seasons back, all while not training, flying over to Melbourne from Adelaide every friday afternoon, and worrying about the welfare of Carl jr., who was in poor health as a result of being born prematurely.

That said, I can understand whre your criticism is coming from, and I'm possibly a little biased in my opinion of him.

 

[JUBJUB]

Its got to be Scott Muller.

 

[Bomber Spirit]

Simon Davis. 0 runs at an average of 0.00, and 0 wickets at an average of infinity.

 

[Darky]

Daren Ganga (WI) and Wayne Larkins (Eng). Absolute shockers.

Worst Aussie : Usually maligned guys like Muller and Cook actually did pretty well in their Tests, and Sean Young & Paul Wilson didn't get much of a chance in the single matches they played. Brad Hogg might have got carted a bit in India, but so did Warne and all the others. Jo Angel was pretty good, despite not taking many wickets, remember he played against a pretty formidable West Indies line up, and has been a fantastic consistent bowler for WA who deserved a chance internationally.

The one bloke who reckon never did much was Brendon Julian, who got a few Tests and way too many one-dayers. Being a left armer was an advantage, but bowled so much garbage that he probably achieved more with the bat than the ball. Rarely averaged under 30 a season bowling for WA, and his overall First Class figures only look respectable because he played so much cricket in the inferior County competition in the UK.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Dutchie Holland was a reasonable spin bowler but all I can remember is his abysmal batting and absolutely attrocious fielding.

 

[JUBJUB]

The Hollioke brothers from England.
Boeta Dippenear [Sth Af] may be a future candidate.

 

[BT]

Originally posted by Darky
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The one bloke who reckon never did much was Brendon Julian, who got a few Tests and way too many one-dayers. Being a left armer was an advantage, but bowled so much garbage that he probably achieved more with the bat than the ball. Rarely averaged under 30 a season bowling for WA, and his overall First Class figures only look respectable because he played so much cricket in the inferior County competition in the UK.

I was wondering when someone would bring up BJ. I personally am a big fan of his. He started very brightly then his bowling got weaker (opponents found him out?) His batting was very impressive by that stage & he would've batted higher for W.A. if they hadn't had blokes like Gilchrist (B.J. would've batted ahead of most state keepers), Brad Hogg (not a fan myself) & Kade Harvey (don't rate him either) he would've had more opportunities. He had A good ashes tour & a great tour of The Carribean.

He bowled quite well in his tests and had a few good innings with the bat (1 half century?) His bowling was poor in one dayers ( most left armers seem to struggle in one dayers, Akram & Reid excepted) though his batting was OK.

He made a big century (in a shield final in Perth from memory) and it was one of the best innings you'll ever see.

I have no idea what sort of picture his numbers paints but i'm sure they don't tell the full story. What can more can I say B.J. is my type of cricketer. I'm a Nicholson fan too for similar reasons, fast bowler who really has a go with the bat & they're pretty rare.

 

[The Hippie]

Anyone remember Sam (I think that was his first name) Trimble's ODI debut years ago, that was embarassing. The poor bloke got so nervous, he couldn't hit the pitch when he was bowling and bowled a stack of wides in his first spell. That said, he was a good state player for QLD, and a really good, hard-hitting lower order batsman.

 

[Booze Hound]

BT

Brendon Julian only played one season in England (for Surrey) and you'll probably find his stats were no worse than in Australia.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by Ruddeger


I feel that seeing as I am related to him (he is married to my cousin) I should stand up for him where he can't

Sure, his figures don't really stack up, butjust from watching him you can tell that he is going at 3/4 pace at the most. His first-class batting and bowling averages of 46.29 and 35.05 stack up more favourably. As for not being able to crack a Pura Cup side, he easily took out the Ryder medal in Melbourne District cricket when he played for Carlton a couple of seasons back, all while not training, flying over to Melbourne from Adelaide every friday afternoon, and worrying about the welfare of Carl jr., who was in poor health as a result of being born prematurely.

That said, I can understand whre your criticism is coming from, and I'm possibly a little biased in my opinion of him.

Not really criticising him Ruddeger, just a gentle dig that's all. When he's on song he is a beautiful batsman to watch, although I think it is fair to say he hasn't maximised his talent.
He seems like a good guy as well.

WCE2000
Fair enough comment. As a cricketer who struggled to get the occasional A grade game, sure, these underperforming test cricketers are still far and away better talents than I will ever be (although Brad Hogg...)
Just a thought provoking thread that's all, no malice intended.

 

[Bulldog1954]

Brett Lee

 

[Esperito]

And imagine if he did NINE.
I guess they mean he'd be even more of a ****head.

 

[jefffff34]

How dare you say Brad Hogg is involved in this thread. I've got his autograph on my Eltham hat with Courtney Walsh. Can PLAY!

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by Hoggy
How dare you say Brad Hogg is involved in this thread. I've got his autograph on my Eltham hat with Courtney Walsh. Can PLAY!

I got Brady Rawlings's autograph at a club function last year. Doesn't mean HE can play!

But I do think Brad Hogg had something to offer, talentwise, a few years ago. Just seems to have stagnated a bit, maybe because he and the WA hierarchy didn't know what his role was. I mean, he started out as a batsman, bowled a few overs and took a couple of wickets, and due to the lack of spinners in WA, he seemed to be pushed to work on his bowling, which unfortunately didn't really improve. His batting suffered, and he ended up batting at 8 or 9.

So what is he - a batsman who bowls, a bowler who bats well, or is he in that limbo where his (or someone else's) approach to his career has inadvertently stuffed up both facets?

 

[jefffff34]

I honestly thought he had a chance for the ODI's this year because he's averaging about 50 with the bat and he's about third in the wickets tally and he's a great fielder.








Oh yeah, this is Brad Hogg I'm talking about