Worth Using Deledio as a Tagger?

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Was listening to Carrazzo from the Blues on the radio this afternoon and Mark Doran raised something that got my attention. He was talking about how Carrazzo has turned from being a run with player into a guy who is now getting tagged. What Doran suggested was that because Carrazzo had been a tagger he knew what those players he was tagging did to break tags and get free and when he gets tagged himself would have a better idea of how to go about breaking those tags. We all know that Lids struggles with tags and goes missing when he is put under the pressure of a close checking opponent.

So I thought I would pose a question: Would Lids benefit if he was used as a run with player?
The Benefits:
Get him playing in the guts where we all want him played anyway but get him following around the better players in the game and see how hard they work to get free and in a position to help their side. While there he can still be a damaging player working the other way off his opponent who in all likelihood is not going to put too much defensive pressure on him.

The Downside: Don't really believe there would be a downside to him playing this role. If the opposition still wants to play an opponent on him then it frees another of our players up. As mentioned if he does play this role then he gets first hand experience in how the games better players work to break their tags in the long run that is not a downside if Lids learns how to deal with tags.

 

[RichosGuns]

Upside:
- Might learn some more accountability
- A good passage into the midfield

Downside:
- Wasting him
- Opposition coaches wouldn't allow it and man another player on him

No thanks, HB, wing and HF for me

 

[PHX]

No, it's a waste.

Forward line and wing for Lids thanks.

I dont think he'll ever be an inside mid-fielder, he barely played there as a junior in the inside. Quite happy to be proved wrong though.

 

[Alex_au]

No, it's a waste.

Forward line and wing for Lids thanks.

I dont think he'll ever be an inside mid-fielder, he barely played there as a junior in the inside. Quite happy to be proved wrong though.

Not really a wast when you are half way through the season and still haven't won a game. Best to just use the rest of the year to experiment and blood new youngsters.

 

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Upside:
- Might learn some more accountability
- A good passage into the midfield

Downside:
- Wasting him
- Opposition coaches wouldn't allow it and man another player on him

No thanks, HB, wing and HF for me

No, it's a waste.

Forward line and wing for Lids thanks.

I dont think he'll ever be an inside mid-fielder, he barely played there as a junior in the inside. Quite happy to be proved wrong though.

The way I look at it this year is shot we all know that. Lets get something out of it other than a few cheap wins at the end of the year, in this case use Lids in a role that might be a waste now but if he can learn how others break tags then next year when he does get tagged he hyopefully has a bit more of an idea on what he needs to do to break them himself. Would much rather this than seeing Wallace playing him as a FP where he has no impact at all really. At least in the guts he can still have that impact as I said his offensively minded opponent wont pay him as much attention as a tagger whose sole focus is just stopping him.

 

[bigpapagman]

???

 

[I Rock]

Not so much of a waste if Deledio goes to a player and gets manned by another as well. Correct me if my maths is wrong but that may leave a player free in the middle. Wouldn't work all the time but could be used with success on a good rotation system.

 

[Alex_au]

I thought I might add that if I was coaching Richmond, instead of using Deledio as defensive tagger. I would rather play him on the oppositions best midfielder head to head. He could learn so much from playing this way.

 

[PLSC]

maybe he should learn to work a bit harder and not just sit off packs all game

just a thought!

 

[Aristotel]

Was listening to Carrazzo from the Blues on the radio this afternoon and Mark Doran raised something that got my attention. He was talking about how Carrazzo has turned from being a run with player into a guy who is now getting tagged. What Doran suggested was that because Carrazzo had been a tagger he knew what those players he was tagging did to break tags and get free and when he gets tagged himself would have a better idea of how to go about breaking those tags. We all know that Lids struggles with tags and goes missing when he is put under the pressure of a close checking opponent.

So I thought I would pose a question: Would Lids benefit if he was used as a run with player?
The Benefits:
Get him playing in the guts where we all want him played anyway but get him following around the better players in the game and see how hard they work to get free and in a position to help their side. While there he can still be a damaging player working the other way off his opponent who in all likelihood is not going to put too much defensive pressure on him.

The Downside: Don't really believe there would be a downside to him playing this role. If the opposition still wants to play an opponent on him then it frees another of our players up. As mentioned if he does play this role then he gets first hand experience in how the games better players work to break their tags in the long run that is not a downside if Lids learns how to deal with tags.

Yep...good idea.

E-mail your brilliant stategy to Terry...

 

[Wally Matera]

Fcuk no!

Seriously guys... it shows that he heaps more to learn and become smarter the way he plays. Harvey, West, Buckley, Hird werent taggers before they became elite midfielders, so why should Deledio.

Ne needs to work his knackers off to show he's not going to be pushed around. One of my mates and l were having this conversation earlier and he said Garry Hocking, one of his all-time favourites was hell bent on giving a tagger or two a clip behind/in play early on his career to show them not to fcuk with him. Hocking always believed the 1-2 games suspensions early in his career set him up to not get hassled as much.

Maybe a week or two on the sidelines for Deledio may help his tagging issues.

 

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Yep...good idea.

E-mail your brilliant stategy to Terry...

Not my stratergy at all just merely rainsing a topic for discussion. Nothing more.

Fcuk no!

Seriously guys... it shows that he heaps more to learn and become smarter the way he plays. Harvey, West, Buckley, Hird werent taggers before they became elite midfielders, so why should Deledio.

Ne needs to work his knackers off to show he's not going to be pushed around. One of my mates and l were having this conversation earlier and he said Garry Hocking, one of his all-time favourites was hell bent on giving a tagger or two a clip behind/in play early on his career to show them not to fcuk with him. Hocking always believed the 1-2 games suspensions early in his career set him up to not get hassled as much.

Maybe a week or two on the sidelines for Deledio may help his tagging issues.

The issue with Lids going around belting blokes now is the fact it attracts extra punishment in the future due to the changes to the system. As mentioned perhaps he should just work harder and running them off their legs.

 

[Ando_4]

No. Not accountable enough.
This has been trialled and failed already.

 

[astro_toby]

dont think its the worse idea going round - make him do it on specific players who are known for running all day - let him learn the hard way how much hard work is required to reach the level he can reach.

might teach him how to break tags, and also why he needs to increase his workrate.

playing him on a wing and a forward flank is all good and well, but we are basically admitting that he is flawed - and selecting him to play in positions which all but admit that flaw. so basically we are saying
"ok brett, we realise you don't like running all day - and you really don't appreciate those peskytaggers bothering you - so we will put you on the forward flank"

the reason he wont get tagged on a hff or a wing is because the opposition is happy for him to get his ball around those positions! they basically see that as a positive - they tag him in the midfield because they know he can be a gamebreaker there. ???

It's like playing Fevola on a hff, because he doesn't like having the best full backs on him. the reason - sure he wont get the FB, but shit - if i was playing carlton i'd be pretty happy with him not playing at Full forward!

i dont want deledio to be handy flanker, or winger - i want him to be a premeir midfielder like he should be - this talk that he is a natural winger is horseshit!

he is a natural midfielder who is still learning the hard yards involved in becoming that midfielder

dont accept medicority! make them work hard to become there fullest!

 

[Wally Matera]

... this talk that he is a natural winger is horseshit!

he is a natural midfielder who is still learning the hard yards involved in becoming that midfielder

dont accept medicority! make them work hard to become there fullest!

LOL. Couldnt agree more Astro boy.

But dont want him to tag, rather pull his fcuking finger out and use his brains a little better.

 

[oxxy_01]

only upside to brett tagging would be to be shown how the elite midfielders get the ball and where they run. tagging is a good learning tool.

however, surely a talent like brett could be used more effectively off the back flank where he can run off his opponent and kick long to richo. his pace is a major weapon and off a back flank the run through the middle is desperately needed

 

[Wally Matera]

however, surely a talent like brett could be used more effectively off the back flank where he can run off his opponent and kick long to richo. his pace is a major weapon and off a back flank the run through the middle is desperately needed

If he's on the half back flank, then we're obviously losing. I dont want another Patrick Bowden... l want someone who can decide a game where it counts - in the middle!!

 

[oxxy_01]

If he's on the half back flank, then we're obviously losing. I dont want another Patrick Bowden... l want someone who can decide a game where it counts - in the middle!!

yeh but with brett he is best used in short bursts through the midfield, not whole game gut running, back flank changing onto the ball