Xav Ellis> everyone who got taken in the 2005 draft!

[killpies]

Some interesting stats for Season 2008.

Murphy top 20 in the league for:
Kicks (11th)
Disposals (16th)
Contested Pos (19th)
inside 50's (5th)
Goal Assists (14th)

Disposal efficiency 70.48, which is superior to:
Didak,Swan,Medhurst, T Cloke. The other Collingwoods player i saw in the top 20 for any stat that was higher was HShaw and Obree at about 75.

Other midfielders I noticed who are well regarded and are lower:
Jude Bolton
Luke Ball
Simon Black
Ryan Griffen

Ellis was in the top 20 for disposal efficiency at around 85, but not for anything else.

Pendlebury and Thomas weren't in the top 20 for any stat so not sure what there DE is like.

 

[eldorado]

Does anyone else ever get halfway through a post on why Player X is better than Player Y, realize "What the **** am I doing this shit for?", and go and enjoy life instead?

I just did, and I feel better already.

Good luck to all of them.

 

[Junior boi]

At the moment:

Murphy
Pendlebury
Ellis
Thomas

At the end:

Murphy
Ellis
Pendlebury
Thomas

 

[Dave The Man]

thomas does not get tagged at all let alone every week you are talking completely out of your ass

Get's tagged when playing Sydney and a Few Other Sides and He has even play as a Tagger himself early in the Season

 

[Dave The Man]

At the moment:

Murphy
Pendlebury
Ellis
Thomas

At the end:

Murphy
Ellis
Pendlebury
Thomas

Not Biased Much

 

[Hodgepodge]

Murphy is a one-trick pony.

 

[NTRabbit]

Jason Porplyzia was taken in the 2005 (Preseason) Draft too.

Rather him than Ellis

 

[hawks_time]

Not Biased Much

So because he guesses that a Hawthorn player will finish better than an opposition player it's bias? It's only out of 4 players and only 1 of them is Hawthorn.

 

[fishbowl]

Grant Birchall, anyone?

Ellis > Murphy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pendlebury >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dale Thomas.

 

[Dave The Man]

Grant Birchall, anyone?

Ellis > Murphy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pendlebury >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dale Thomas.

BS How about.


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[smiddaz123]

Pendles and Murphy have been performing as well as they have benn for a far longer period of time than Ellis has been, and as pure midfielders not playing off the back flank.

ROFL at the Hawk fans putting Ellis above these two.

 

[doondoon]

Pendles and Murphy have been performing as well as they have benn for a far longer period of time than Ellis has been, and as pure midfielders not playing off the back flank.

ROFL at the Hawk fans putting Ellis above these two.

since when has thomas played in the middle?

ellis rarely plays back

 

[dylan123]

Pendles and Murphy have been performing as well as they have benn for a far longer period of time than Ellis has been, and as pure midfielders not playing off the back flank.

ROFL at the Hawk fans putting Ellis above these two.

agreed

 

[Fastback]

if choosing today my order would be..


Murphy
Birchall
Pendlebury
Ellis
Ibbotson
Higgins
Ryder
Jones
Thomas

 

[Hawkzzz]

Ellis started late due to school. When he puts on about 5-7 kg it will be good night to the rest. He has more courage than most of the others, without doubt. Why? Look at his body size yet he never shirks from a clash.

Great Grand final game. Absolute Gun.

Overall, still Hodge >>>>Geelong.

 

[smiddaz123]

since when has thomas played in the middle?

ellis rarely plays back

ummmm I never mentioned Thomas buddy....

 

[hellfire]

Murphy and Pendlebury are clearly ahead of the rest. The order of the rest is debatable, but these two are clearly on top. Who is better out of those two is tough to say, both guns.

 

[Sharkey]

Ellis by a mile.
Pendles and Thomas are decent flankers and Murphy does his magic trick of doing nothing whilst seemingly doing something but X man easily.

 

[smiddaz123]

Ellis by a mile.
Pendles and Thomas are decent flankers and Murphy does his magic trick of doing nothing whilst seemingly doing something but X man easily.

That would be fine if Pendlebury actually played on a flank, and Ellis DIDN'T play on the back flank a lot in 2008.

 

[Winner]

I would go something like:

Pendlebury (if he bulks up he would be a gun)
Murphy (needs to improve his skills)
Ryder (potential to be a superstar KPP, which is hard to find)
Ellis (only played a few good games, the potential is there though)
Thomas

 

[MadDawg]

1. Birchall

big gap

2. Murphy

big gap

3. Pendles

big gap

4. Ellis / Thomas

The order which the 2005 draft looks to have panned out at this point of the draft.

 

[Smyth94]

Whoever is putting Birchall at #1 ahead of Murphy and Pendlebury are having a laugh...that said I wouldn't swap any player from the '05 draft for Ryder

 

[Quixote]

A few names to consider, when debating the '05 Draft and some of the highly picked names, such as Thomas, Pendlebury and Co.


BEN MCGLYNN, Hawthorn - Pick 55, Rookie Draft

JASON PORPLYZIA, Adelaide - Pick 9, PSD

JOEL PATFULL, Brisbane - Pick 56, National Draft

SAM GILBERT, St Kilda - Pick 33, National Draft


All late picks, all very good performers for mine.

 

[wata]

Thomas is a gun - no doubt about that.
He gets tagged almost every week now so the opposition obviously rate him. He's got a big future in front of him - will win a Brownlow, IMO.

Yep he gets tagged every week by his shadow.
Does have a good future.
May win a brownlow (from the weeties box)

Cheers

 

[Cohzee]

Hahaha Weeties box!