As if 38 and 42 is going to cut it, that's marginally better than pick 88 for Mitchell. Very good player or get a pick between 15-23 or bigger off.
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1st rounder from 2 years ago. Can debate the intricacies but can't swing every situation to suit our favour.
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Proven form vs uncertain form. Going home to a struggling side vs another piece in a premiership puzzle down the road.
Happy to disagree.
You'd have to think the Lions knew Doc was going to be a great player. From a fan perspective, it's a different story.
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They were absolutely more miffed about Yeo and Polec at the time though.
Apparently it was Tuohy and his management that approached Geelong about him going there, they didnt chase him.
This may have backfired on us, not offering him a decent contract initially so he would look elsewhere. Our contract offer was increased later but they may have been after they realised we may not get the trade we thought we would.
Seen him go hard at it sometimes but MIA too often. For all his potential he hasn't delivered enough thus far.
I AM CARLTON
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Dont think I am wrong on every count.
7th oldest squad this season out of 18 teams isnt great considering we are a bottom 4 club.
Given Gibbs is only a year older than Tuohy if we had to keep 1 of these players is Gibbs by a mile way better player than Tuohy
Also do you really believe Tuohy is a star? I dont as I mentioned but you said I was wrong on every count so that is surprising you think he is a star player!
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If its down to 50k a year or a pick 25+ I agree, we keep him.
No, we dont. Keeping Gibbs would be the worst thing we could do. We take 13 + a second rounder and walk.
Thats exactly what they would do. **** off. No player would ever nominate us again if we cant get deals done by being idiots.
The two (maybe three) GWS boys are worth a mid first round pick (13).
We're miles off it. Miles off it. We dont have a forward line, and down half a dozen mids and 12 months into a three year rebuild.
We go hard at the draft, pile talent in at the under 23 year old bracket, and load up with an eye on 2020 onwards.
Taking shortcuts, or getting ahead of ourselves is the worst thing we can do.
This has all the makings of being as good a deal as the Jacobs trade.
We wouldn't be complaining about the Jacobs trade had have we chosen Luke Parker instead of Pat McCarthy, though.
Numbers are important but it's what you do with them that really counts.
Interesting perspective. So who is the Luke Parker at 43 this year? Because I have no idea and based on our history neither do Carlton most likely.
That's not something we here would have much idea about, but the guys whose job it is to watch games, study tapes, do the interviews, should.
We won't know how good the new thinking regime (although many parts are the same) is, until proven.....and that will be few years away yet.
i think thats very harsh. not elite but a good player who is very good kick and durable. now in his prime. i am all for trades and getting more young talent but i dont want to give him away. pick 38 & 42 for tuohy and 58 is the best of a bad situation
Fingers crossed.
I'm a fan of Tuohy and would much rather see him stay than trade at a perceived loss. However that's thinking in the present, not the future so whatever happens should hopefully benefit all in the long run.
If Sydney knew how good Parker would be then Lamb doesn't go before him. I daresay when later selections come on the deciding rationale would likely be as erroneous as it is astute.
Hearing Geelong are playing hardball. We have asked for a straight swap for Lang and they have said no. They are said to be waiting for the Kersten compensation pick, which will probably be 35. I believe the trade will then be Smedts and 35 for Tuohy.
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What about 3-way trade?
Tigers out Pick #27 + Delidio
Tigers in Caddy + #42
Cats out Caddy + #38 + #42
Cats in Delidio + Touhy + #58
Blues out Touhy + #58
Blues in Pick #27 + #38
Tigers out Pick #27 + Delidio
Tigers in Caddy + #42
Cats out Caddy + #38 + #42
Cats in Delidio + Touhy + #58
Blues out Touhy + #58
Blues in Pick #27 + #38
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We would take #27 straight up and that's what their offer would be.
Absolutely right.
Easy for Sydney to have said they were surprised for Parker to still have been there, but even they misjudged his capacity.
Jimmae
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One in the best of the league at his position, so it's ridiculous to complain about age profile in regards to him. We're not trying to build an U25s team.
Jimmae
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Kersten's set to be a delisted free agent, why would anyone trade pick 35 for him?
bigblackboz
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Nah he won't be delisted as he played 17 games this year. Geelong would keep him if they could.