Tichmond Rigers
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- Dec 15, 2014
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Look, I am not familiar with the big bang theory I will admit, but I study Bachelor of Science (I need it to get to a graduate degree otherwise I would not have done it). So, in terms of science, I know more than what people think I know about it and I know a lot of their theories like natural selection and evolution etc. fairly well.I'll give this guy the benefit of the doubt that he is really just very ignorant and has never even walked past a single science textbook...
The Creator does not need to be created. I will tell you why. Those who believe that the Creator created everything believe that the Creator created time. Hence, time does not lapse on the Creator. This means that the Creator existed Eternally since time does not lapse on Him. The One Who exists without a beginning does not need another to bring them into existence.You are introducing a being, far, far more complex than the universe to be the cause of the universe. That being then is in far more need of a creator (being even more complex), or you give it a pass and abandon your own logic. If this creator doesn't need a creator, then why assume the universe would?
If you acknowledge that it too requires a creator, then what created that creator? What created the creator of the creator. This continues infinitely.
Because the Universe has attributes that prove it is needy, like occupying place and colour etc. Also, time lapses on the Universe, suggesting that it has a beginning. It changes, and change is a sign of being overpowered. There has to be One Who attributed them with those attributes and has Power over it.We don't know how the universe came to be, but as above, how did this creator come to be, by chance?
Any allowance you make to allow this creator to exist is only adding an unnecessary level of complexity. If the creator has always existed and thus escapes the requirement of a cause, why not allow the universe this origin?
Whereas God does not have those attributes. God is not a body, does not need a place in order to exist and does not have a limit. God is not overpowered and does not change. This is why those that believe in a "Sky-God" are wrong.
Science has not yet explained many things, in this you are correct. So, the things that science has explained - before they were explained, many had a religious or supernatural 'explanation'. What would you say to a person who insisted that diseases are caused by evil spirits and demons, rather than germs?
I believe in the existence of intellectual creatures other than humans. But for the purpose of this discussion, I will not comment on this because my main purpose is to talk about the belief in God and not demons and germs.
It is still a fact. The world could have had different norms, but does notBy 'mentally possible' you mean 'It's a thought I can have', right? To be completely honest, this part sounds like you're really, really high. (Not that there's anything wrong with that).
Yes, I do find it a satisfying answer. Why? because I believe that God is attributed with Will. What I mean by that is that I believe God has the ability to do whatever He Wills. And I believe that there is a wisdom behind the creation of everything. So I find this a satisfying answer."X is Y, because god made it that way - no further explanation needed" - do you really find this a satisfying answer?
I understand that you're a Muslim. The Islamic world used to be at the forefront of scientific discovery and progress. Please be aware that those who came before you were not satisfied with 'God did it' as the answer to everything.
Just letting you know, you need not abandon science and embrace ignorance...
Yes, they were at the forefront of scientific discovery. But none of them believed that God didn't exist.I understand that you're a Muslim. The Islamic world used to be at the forefront of scientific discovery and progress. Please be aware that those who came before you were not satisfied with 'God did it' as the answer to everything.
Just letting you know, you need not abandon science and embrace ignorance...
We are taught that there is a cure for all diseases except death and old age. Hence, you would find Muslims eager to find cures. We are taught to ponder on the creations around us. You will find Muslims captivated by the processes of life and how things work and will observe. Hence, you will find them having taken part in past scientific discovery.