Western Region FL - Divy 1 2018

[BEST OF EDFL]

I am told on good advice money bags and his arrogant mate Eddie had plenty to say about the proposed salary cap and points system at WRL meeting last night. Not even money bags' money can help deer park with the points system. They will pay for lack of junior focus. Finally the end of the arrogance of there president and supporters. Bring it on , back to second division.

 

[table tennis]

What happens when the rich clubs do the following for juniors:



Offer free memberships, merchandise?

Then to avoid them consuming points, they target junior guns, start paying them to play at thier clubs, so they are minimal points when they graduate to seniors.

 

[BEST OF EDFL]

What happens when the rich clubs do the following for juniors:



Offer free memberships, merchandise?

Then to avoid them consuming points, they target junior guns, start paying them to play at thier clubs, so they are minimal points when they graduate to seniors.

Got money bags and eddie covered there. Have to play a min of 50 games by aged 17 to attract only one point. They are toooooooo impatient to wait.

Its the end of the blue and old

 

[table tennis]

Got money bags and eddie covered there. Have to play a min of 50 games by aged 17 to attract only one point. They are toooooooo impatient to wait.

Its the end of the blue and old

Under 12 interleague players will be getting poached.

 

[Turbos mail]

Under 12 interleague players will be getting poached.

Ultimately this is what is going to happen to talented kids from ages 12-14 upwards. Only takes approx 3 years to play 50 games so recruit them in u/14s.

Going to be interested to see how many points in total are allocated to specific leagues.. I'm sure they might lose a couple of players but still be strong as if you have a low points total it will cause the standard to drop so need to be careful on this one..

 

[bsddbsfbfd]

Ultimately this is what is going to happen to talented kids from ages 12-14 upwards. Only takes approx 3 years to play 50 games so recruit them in u/14s.

Going to be interested to see how many points in total are allocated to specific leagues.. I'm sure they might lose a couple of players but still be strong as if you have a low points total it will cause the standard to drop so need to be careful on this one..

I think this is a bit of a stretch. I know plenty of kids who were guns back in the day and then stopped playing footy, or just never took it up seriously. I think local clubs have much more to worry about than poaching 12/14s. The points system has worked in other sports eg. cricket, and I think the points/salary cap can only help equalise local competitions. At the end of the day, there are always going to be bigger and more successful clubs, but maybe now we won't see as many small clubs folding or being belted by 200 pts week in, week out.

As far as Deer Park, I've seen them play a couple game this year, and they are very beatable. As far as I'm concerned it's a mindset that people in this league choose to have. Administrative down, there are a lot of old school negative blokes who want everything the easy way. St. Albans will definitely take it up to them this week. As for next year, this comp is going to get even better.

 

[Turbos mail]

I think this is a bit of a stretch. I know plenty of kids who were guns back in the day and then stopped playing footy, or just never took it up seriously. I think local clubs have much more to worry about than poaching 12/14s. The points system has worked in other sports eg. cricket, and I think the points/salary cap can only help equalise local competitions. At the end of the day, there are always going to be bigger and more successful clubs, but maybe now we won't see as many small clubs folding or being belted by 200 pts week in, week out.

As far as Deer Park, I've seen them play a couple game this year, and they are very beatable. As far as I'm concerned it's a mindset that people in this league choose to have. Administrative down, there are a lot of old school negative blokes who want everything the easy way. St. Albans will definitely take it up to them this week. As for next year, this comp is going to get even better.

Good points you have.
Interested to see how St Albans go this week. They are doing well considering they are working to a budget not very big. Marcus seems to be doing a good job. St Albans having a reunion tomorrow so expect a big crown down there.
It is funny how things change as back in the 80-90s St Albans were the biggest spending club with there sports club and facilities..

All the best mate.

 

[Reserved]

Wondering if in the future some of these big spending clubs in all leagues and associations in Melbourne that have money to burn decide to have a meeting and tell there respective leagues to get stuffed and start there own league with NO POINTS.....any thoughts

And be umpire by who ???
And delegated by who ??? And run a tribunal by who ???

 

[AFDogs]

St. Albans vs Deer Park yesterday one of the best games of local footy I've ever seen. Crowd was massive and the atmosphere was great. Hoping for a Saints/Lions Granny.

 

[inka]

From The Bendigo Advertiser:

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/3078780/local-footys-new-landscape/

THE days of open slather recruiting by local footy clubs appear to be over following the unveiling of AFL Victoria’s proposed new measures to combat escalating player payments.
AFL Victoria’s Community Club Sustainability Program proposed framework was released on Thursday, creating a much stricter new landscape for recruiting.
The cornerstones of the program will be a complex state-wide player points system, plus the reintroduction of the salary cap that has been previously tried unsuccessfully at local level.
The measures aim to assist in the equalisation of competitions; stop inflammatory player payments by discouraging player movement; and promote player loyalty and junior development.
The salary cap figure will be determined by regional commissions in consultation with clubs and leagues to ensure the cap meets local conditions.
One of the aims of the salary cap is to provide a tool for clubs to “not be allowed” to meet player demands.
Among the key implementations of the salary cap will be player payments to be detailed in a standard state-wide player contract.
“This contract would be accompanied by a statutory declaration signed by the player, which outlines that all payments to play for the club are confined to the detail within the standard player contract,” AFL Victoria stated in its working paper.
“Payments made by either the club or a third party to a player based upon their participation that is not contained within the player’s contract is illegal.”
All player contracts would be lodged electronically to a portal where they may be audited by an independent integrity officer accredited by AFL Victoria.
Player incentives, such as match awards, will need to be included in the salary cap, with budgeting tools to be provided to club administrators.
The standard player contracts will include conditions such as no sign-on fees, no match payments in finals or while injured, while the coaching element for a playing coach won’t be included in the salary cap.
AFL Victoria says clubs will be audited to ensure they are compliant to the salary cap.
“Not all will every year, but just like the tax office, when your time comes you will need to demonstrate full compliance,” AFL Victoria said.
The following penalties could apply for clubs found to have breached the salary cap:
• Club fines;
• Loss of points - current season and in the future;
• Suspended from finals;
• Player suspensions for those knowingly taking money outside of the standard playing contract.
The accompanying player points system will be implemented state-wide.
However, like the salary cap, the allocation of points for each club will be determined by regional commissions using feedback following the two-month trial period during June and July.
The proposed player points system defines players into six categories:
• 6 points - AFL Player.
• 5 points - State League Tier 1 (VFL, WAFL, SANFL).
• 4 points - TAC Cup; State League Tier 2 (NEAFL, TASFL); Premium Community Player.
• 3 points - Senior Community Player; Transferred Junior.
• 2 points - Development Community Player.
• 1 point - Home Player.
Where a player qualifies in more than one category based on their playing history in the previous three seasons, the highest points will apply.
Premium Community status has been granted to six metropolitan and 11 country competitions, including the Bendigo Football League.
Additional player penalties, such as transferring clubs in the same competition, or leaving a premier competition for a non-premier competition (BFL to Heathcote District, Loddon Valley or North Central) will also apply.
Player point deductions will also be included for each season of service to a club.
Regional commissions and leagues will determine the points allowances for each club and may base it on three criteria:
• Small population base - additional points to the team allocation where the club is located in a region with a low population base;
• Ladder position - additional points if team did not qualify for finals in previous season; reduction in points to team allocation for multiple premierships in defined number of seasons;
• Junior pathway - additional points to team where a club has no under-age sides aligned to it, is not capable of developing a junior program due to reasons outside its control; or if a club is aligned with a university and the team is based around players coming and going over a three-to-four year period.
A junior aligned club is defined as: “where seniors and juniors exist under the same constitution, or where there is a memorandum of understanding in place between stand-alone senior and junior clubs that is approved by a league or region commission.”
While the salary caps and allocation of points will be determined by each region, they will be required to be signed off on by AFL Victoria.
The clearance window will now open earlier, with player transfers permitted to take place from November 1 to December 15, and the traditional February 1 to June 30.
Following Thursday’s unveiling of the proposed framework, the next stage is the trial period during June and July in which feedback will be sought from leagues and region commissions.
The AFL Victoria working party that has developed the proposals will then spend August finalising the framework ready for implementation across the state in 2016.
The CCSP working paper released by AFL Victoria on Thursday features a number of quotes from club representatives highlighting the need for action on escalating player payments.
“The rising cost of running a football club... each season is becoming more and more difficult, and if the trend continues my club will cease to exist.” - Northern FL club representative.
“Increasing player payments is currently placing a great amount of pressure on the club and volunteers to constantly fundraise, even through the off-season.” - Alberton FL club representative.
“We anticipate that we need to increase our player budget by 20 per cent each year for the next three years to remain competitive and we are unsure how we do that." - Bellarine FL club representative.
THE PROPOSED POINTS SYSTEM:
6 points – AFL Player: minimum of 1 AFL game in the previous three seasons.
5 points – State League Tier 1 (VFL, WAFL, SANFL): minimum of 5 senior games in the current or previous 3 seasons.
4 points – TAC Cup: minimum 5 games in current or previous 3 seasons.
State League Tier 2 (NEAFL, TASFL): minimum 5 senior games in current or previous 3 seasons.
Premium Community Player (major metropolitan and country leagues): Club senior best and fairest top five or competition best and fairest top 10. Club leading goalkicker (minimum 40 goals in a season) in previous 3 seasons.
3 points – Senior Community Player: played the same or more senior than reserves games in any of the previous 3 seasons.
Transferred Junior: player recruited from an under-19s or younger competition and does not meet the home club definition.
2 points – Development Community Player: played more reserves than senior games in the previous season.
1 point – Home Player: played 40 or more games at the aligned junior club and up to and including under-17 competition or younger.
Player who has only played at that club.
ADDITIONAL PENALTY PLAYER POINTS
Additional 1 point - If transferring from another community club in the same competition or division or is transferring from a club located in a premier competition to a club in a non premier competition * (maximum one point even if you meet both descriptions).
Additional 1 point - If transferred to more than two clubs in past 36 months.
DEDUCTIONS FOR PLAYER POINTS
Deduct 1 point - For each season of service to the club (minimum 5 senior or reserves games per season), even if not in consecutive years, until the player reaches 1 point. Note: if the player is eligible for underage football at that club, it must be 5 senior games to meet the criteria for a year of service.
Revert to 1 point – Where player is returning to their home club.
Revert to 1 point – Where player has not played in the previous 36 months.
PREMIUM COMPETITIONS:
The 17 metropolitan and country leagues that are deemed to be premium competitions, in which Premium Community Players are determined:
METROPOLITAN:
Eastern F.L. Div. 1
Essendon District F.L. Premier
Northern F.L. Div. 1
Southern F.L. Div. 1
VAFA Premier Division
Western Region F.L. Div. 1
COUNTRY:
Ballarat FL
Bendigo FL
Geelong FL
Gippsland FL
Goulburn Valley FL
Hampden FL
Murray FL
Ovens and Murray FL
Peninsula FL
South East FL
Yarra Valley Mountain District FL

 

[Mad monday]

From The Bendigo Advertiser:

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/3078780/local-footys-new-landscape/

THE days of open slather recruiting by local footy clubs appear to be over following the unveiling of AFL Victoria’s proposed new measures to combat escalating player payments.
AFL Victoria’s Community Club Sustainability Program proposed framework was released on Thursday, creating a much stricter new landscape for recruiting.
The cornerstones of the program will be a complex state-wide player points system, plus the reintroduction of the salary cap that has been previously tried unsuccessfully at local level.
The measures aim to assist in the equalisation of competitions; stop inflammatory player payments by discouraging player movement; and promote player loyalty and junior development.
The salary cap figure will be determined by regional commissions in consultation with clubs and leagues to ensure the cap meets local conditions.
One of the aims of the salary cap is to provide a tool for clubs to “not be allowed” to meet player demands.
Among the key implementations of the salary cap will be player payments to be detailed in a standard state-wide player contract.
“This contract would be accompanied by a statutory declaration signed by the player, which outlines that all payments to play for the club are confined to the detail within the standard player contract,” AFL Victoria stated in its working paper.
“Payments made by either the club or a third party to a player based upon their participation that is not contained within the player’s contract is illegal.”
All player contracts would be lodged electronically to a portal where they may be audited by an independent integrity officer accredited by AFL Victoria.
Player incentives, such as match awards, will need to be included in the salary cap, with budgeting tools to be provided to club administrators.
The standard player contracts will include conditions such as no sign-on fees, no match payments in finals or while injured, while the coaching element for a playing coach won’t be included in the salary cap.
AFL Victoria says clubs will be audited to ensure they are compliant to the salary cap.
“Not all will every year, but just like the tax office, when your time comes you will need to demonstrate full compliance,” AFL Victoria said.
The following penalties could apply for clubs found to have breached the salary cap:
• Club fines;
• Loss of points - current season and in the future;
• Suspended from finals;
• Player suspensions for those knowingly taking money outside of the standard playing contract.
The accompanying player points system will be implemented state-wide.
However, like the salary cap, the allocation of points for each club will be determined by regional commissions using feedback following the two-month trial period during June and July.
The proposed player points system defines players into six categories:
• 6 points - AFL Player.
• 5 points - State League Tier 1 (VFL, WAFL, SANFL).
• 4 points - TAC Cup; State League Tier 2 (NEAFL, TASFL); Premium Community Player.
• 3 points - Senior Community Player; Transferred Junior.
• 2 points - Development Community Player.
• 1 point - Home Player.
Where a player qualifies in more than one category based on their playing history in the previous three seasons, the highest points will apply.
Premium Community status has been granted to six metropolitan and 11 country competitions, including the Bendigo Football League.
Additional player penalties, such as transferring clubs in the same competition, or leaving a premier competition for a non-premier competition (BFL to Heathcote District, Loddon Valley or North Central) will also apply.
Player point deductions will also be included for each season of service to a club.
Regional commissions and leagues will determine the points allowances for each club and may base it on three criteria:
• Small population base - additional points to the team allocation where the club is located in a region with a low population base;
• Ladder position - additional points if team did not qualify for finals in previous season; reduction in points to team allocation for multiple premierships in defined number of seasons;
• Junior pathway - additional points to team where a club has no under-age sides aligned to it, is not capable of developing a junior program due to reasons outside its control; or if a club is aligned with a university and the team is based around players coming and going over a three-to-four year period.
A junior aligned club is defined as: “where seniors and juniors exist under the same constitution, or where there is a memorandum of understanding in place between stand-alone senior and junior clubs that is approved by a league or region commission.”
While the salary caps and allocation of points will be determined by each region, they will be required to be signed off on by AFL Victoria.
The clearance window will now open earlier, with player transfers permitted to take place from November 1 to December 15, and the traditional February 1 to June 30.
Following Thursday’s unveiling of the proposed framework, the next stage is the trial period during June and July in which feedback will be sought from leagues and region commissions.
The AFL Victoria working party that has developed the proposals will then spend August finalising the framework ready for implementation across the state in 2016.
The CCSP working paper released by AFL Victoria on Thursday features a number of quotes from club representatives highlighting the need for action on escalating player payments.
“The rising cost of running a football club... each season is becoming more and more difficult, and if the trend continues my club will cease to exist.” - Northern FL club representative.
“Increasing player payments is currently placing a great amount of pressure on the club and volunteers to constantly fundraise, even through the off-season.” - Alberton FL club representative.
“We anticipate that we need to increase our player budget by 20 per cent each year for the next three years to remain competitive and we are unsure how we do that." - Bellarine FL club representative.
THE PROPOSED POINTS SYSTEM:
6 points – AFL Player: minimum of 1 AFL game in the previous three seasons.
5 points – State League Tier 1 (VFL, WAFL, SANFL): minimum of 5 senior games in the current or previous 3 seasons.
4 points – TAC Cup: minimum 5 games in current or previous 3 seasons.
State League Tier 2 (NEAFL, TASFL): minimum 5 senior games in current or previous 3 seasons.
Premium Community Player (major metropolitan and country leagues): Club senior best and fairest top five or competition best and fairest top 10. Club leading goalkicker (minimum 40 goals in a season) in previous 3 seasons.
3 points – Senior Community Player: played the same or more senior than reserves games in any of the previous 3 seasons.
Transferred Junior: player recruited from an under-19s or younger competition and does not meet the home club definition.
2 points – Development Community Player: played more reserves than senior games in the previous season.
1 point – Home Player: played 40 or more games at the aligned junior club and up to and including under-17 competition or younger.
Player who has only played at that club.
ADDITIONAL PENALTY PLAYER POINTS
Additional 1 point - If transferring from another community club in the same competition or division or is transferring from a club located in a premier competition to a club in a non premier competition * (maximum one point even if you meet both descriptions).
Additional 1 point - If transferred to more than two clubs in past 36 months.
DEDUCTIONS FOR PLAYER POINTS
Deduct 1 point - For each season of service to the club (minimum 5 senior or reserves games per season), even if not in consecutive years, until the player reaches 1 point. Note: if the player is eligible for underage football at that club, it must be 5 senior games to meet the criteria for a year of service.
Revert to 1 point – Where player is returning to their home club.
Revert to 1 point – Where player has not played in the previous 36 months.
PREMIUM COMPETITIONS:
The 17 metropolitan and country leagues that are deemed to be premium competitions, in which Premium Community Players are determined:
METROPOLITAN:
Eastern F.L. Div. 1
Essendon District F.L. Premier
Northern F.L. Div. 1
Southern F.L. Div. 1
VAFA Premier Division
Western Region F.L. Div. 1
COUNTRY:
Ballarat FL
Bendigo FL
Geelong FL
Gippsland FL
Goulburn Valley FL
Hampden FL
Murray FL
Ovens and Murray FL
Peninsula FL
South East FL
Yarra Valley Mountain District FL

By jeesus need to be a lawyer/ accountant who the hell at headquarters will monitor this have trouble running comp as it is

 

[Turbos mail]

By jeesus need to be a lawyer/ accountant who the hell at headquarters will monitor this have trouble running comp as it is

Club league fees will rise due to this, as the auditors and investigators are involved. It's flawed in my view. A playing coach is not rated so every club will appoint a player coach and then pay the actual coach outside the system.

A TAC player ranked higher than a good local footballer. Well this is very debatable and we should be encouraging the youth.

But laughable..

 

[Turbos mail]

Turbo - bit of a man crush going on?

Kwame McHarg may have say in Priest medal honours. Jake Allan may also be a surprise

Hey Time to Relax,

How's my man crush Jordan Mead travelling. I see his kicked 2 bags of 7 goals the last 2 weeks. Not bad for a small midfielder. Surely attracting votes!!

I see Kwame is not kicking as many as last year.

Understand it early but whats your views champ?

PS: all taken in good humour!!

 

[Turbos mail]

St. Albans vs Deer Park yesterday one of the best games of local footy I've ever seen. Crowd was massive and the atmosphere was great. Hoping for a Saints/Lions Granny.

What's happened to the Deer Park juggernaut?? Has the recent incident at Sunshine had some effect or are they missing a "leader" type like Heath Ayres.. No disrespect to the club captain, but guys like Ayres don't come around often..

That's a big result for St Albans who's player payments would be half of Deer Parks, so great effort. Was it free flowing or did St Albans shut down there guns like Kwame, Purton-Smith etc..

 

[past panther]

Club league fees will rise due to this, as the auditors and investigators are involved. It's flawed in my view. A playing coach is not rated so every club will appoint a player coach and then pay the actual coach outside the system.

A TAC player ranked higher than a good local footballer. Well this is very debatable and we should be encouraging the youth.

But laughable..

Saw Altona's draft under these laws today. This is being trialled in the next month, so clubs have been asked to forward all relevant information on the full senior list. Based on what I saw, total points for all senior players who have played a one's game this year was divided by the amount of rounds played. Altona was under 30 points. Apparently the only other clubs was Spotty, and Hoppers close to this number. Districts weren't much higher. Very high were colts, Sunshine, St Albans and Albion. based on the formula, bye, bye Lions. discount for over 4 years may save some at the lions and bring the points down but not enough. As I said only a draft so cant say 100% accurate and a bit of hearsay

 

[Time to relax]

All Good Turbo

He is a very good young talent & I seen first hand on Saturday the talent. He'll be up there, but a team mate by the name of Wade Skipper could really be a chance

Mead predominately played deep small forward.

It is fairly open the comp B&F with others; Iaccarino, Dean, Jenkins & Quigley, McHarg & Purton-Smith, Finco, Robbins to all feature & I would miss a couple. The big fella for Hoppers could be a stand out?

Cheers,

 

[AFDogs]

What's happened to the Deer Park juggernaut?? Has the recent incident at Sunshine had some effect or are they missing a "leader" type like Heath Ayres.. No disrespect to the club captain, but guys like Ayres don't come around often..

That's a big result for St Albans who's player payments would be half of Deer Parks, so great effort. Was it free flowing or did St Albans shut down there guns like Kwame, Purton-Smith etc..

Game was as free flowing as a Port Adelaide game. St. Albans played to their absolute best, I struggle to see a way that St. Albans could have possibly played any better. Kwame was quiet but still did some very freakish things in the last quarter. M Bongiovanni and M Quigley for St. Albans were the standouts.

If that's Deer Park at 60%, it's going to be scary to see them at 100%. They are beatable, though.

 

[bulldog24]

Haven't seen too many games this season, so would love to hear some thoughts from those who have seen some games live & know a little more. Some thoughts & questions on each club from what I can gather from results with only a week left to the break.

Deer Park - great to see Werribee & St Albans getting within a kick the last few weeks, but I would say they're going at 60-70% as 1 poster noted above. Could see them losing 1 or 2 in the latter part of the season but think they will be too good come finals. At least this year's side looks beatable, are they a similar standard to the 2013 premiership side?

Hoppers - real surprise packet, didn't expect them to be sitting 2nd after 7 rounds. Looking forward to see how they go the next 2 weeks against Werribee & DP. Drop those two & they're back fighting for that 3rd-5th positions.

Spotswood - their results have looked ok since r1. Not blowing away opposition like we're used to seeing in prior years, but I think they'd be looking to looking to take care of both Sunshine & Werribee in the next 2 weeks then have a real solid showing against DP - wouldn't want to get smacked twice before seeing them in finals. Who has filled the Cloke void?

Werribee - think they'd be disappointed with the start to the year. To be fair they've gone down 4 points twice against DP & Altona, but they play the 2nd & 3rd ranked sides in the next 2 weeks. Drop both of those & they're 3-5 after playing everyone once - no chance of top 3 if that's the case.

St Albans - always hard to get a read on them! Their wins have been very solid & only lost to DP, Spotty & Hoppers (1st round) by 4 goals or less. They will win the next 2 comfortably & sit 5-3 after playing everyone once, eying off that top 3 spot with a solid foundation set for the 2nd half of the season

Altona - really thought they'd play finals this year with all the juniors they had returning. Definitely not writing them off, but have a huge game against Sunshine after the break. I think they could cause some damage on the big type finals grounds. How have Post, Lunardi, Healy gone?

Sunshine - another who I thought would play finals. They got lucky with the DP draw, have to win the next 2 if they want to play finals. I heard a lot of positive things come out early on, but hasn't translated onto the ground?

Port Colts/Albion - great to see them being competitive - not too many one-sided results which can only be a good thing for the comp.

Not involved with anyone particular club in the comp, just would love to hear a bit more on certain teams from those who have watched & get some discussion going in the forum

 

[Footydaoyz91]

deer park best team in comp by a mile

 

[lavo2009]

deer park best team in comp by a mile

very controversial, what makes you say that?

 

[Thats my boy]

I do wonder about crowds at those one sided games, even the supporters from the dominant teams stop going when playing the lower teams, no fun to watch when your guaranteed to win. A close game is a good game.

 

[AFDogs]

I do wonder about crowds at those one sided games, even the supporters from the dominant teams stop going when playing the lower teams, no fun to watch when your guaranteed to win. A close game is a good game.

It's like that in any sport though.

 

[Moody Blue]

Saw Altona's draft under these laws today. This is being trialled in the next month, so clubs have been asked to forward all relevant information on the full senior list. Based on what I saw, total points for all senior players who have played a one's game this year was divided by the amount of rounds played. Altona was under 30 points. Apparently the only other clubs was Spotty, and Hoppers close to this number. Districts weren't much higher. Very high were colts, Sunshine, St Albans and Albion. based on the formula, bye, bye Lions. discount for over 4 years may save some at the lions and bring the points down but not enough. As I said only a draft so cant say 100% accurate and a bit of hearsay

Well I hope they get this right. If they don't there could be a lot of clubs that will close their doors or suddenly decide that they have to play in Div 3 or tread water by merging. You only have to look at the clearances each year from all the leagues to appreciate that players move around. Their reasons can vary from money, work, play with mates, need a change etc. Once this points system is brought in for all competitions then the players who play for $$$ will either settle down with one club and bide their time until a club can afford them, or shop themselves to clubs at a significant lower grade or they will just walk away from the game. What about players who want a change or a discontent at a club? They could be restricted from moving and may decide to give it away or stand down for a season. Even the top clubs in the Ammos will struggle with this system if it is brought in across the board. On the positive side it will force all clubs to focus on juniors. Unfortunately soccer and basketball has been working away in the background for the past decade, and a lot of clubs will struggle to attract juniors especially the 14-17 year olds and then try and retain the 20 & 21 y.o's who decide to give the game away.Soccer doesn't have a points system to worry about and there are quite a few players who make good coin playing suburban soccer. They had better get it right because they may not get a second chance to rectify the problem.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Well I hope they get this right. If they don't there could be a lot of clubs that will close their doors or suddenly decide that they have to play in Div 3 or tread water by merging. You only have to look at the clearances each year from all the leagues to appreciate that players move around. Their reasons can vary from money, work, play with mates, need a change etc. Once this points system is brought in for all competitions then the players who play for $$$ will either settle down with one club and bide their time until a club can afford them, or shop themselves to clubs at a significant lower grade or they will just walk away from the game. What about players who want a change or a discontent at a club? They could be restricted from moving and may decide to give it away or stand down for a season. Even the top clubs in the Ammos will struggle with this system if it is brought in across the board. On the positive side it will force all clubs to focus on juniors. Unfortunately soccer and basketball has been working away in the background for the past decade, and a lot of clubs will struggle to attract juniors especially the 14-17 year olds and then try and retain the 20 & 21 y.o's who decide to give the game away.Soccer doesn't have a points system to worry about and there are quite a few players who make good coin playing suburban soccer. They had better get it right because they may not get a second chance to rectify the problem.

I'd say a lot of players will just start in playing the second divisions raking in the coin...to me this point system is going to weaken the top divisions and strengthen the rest but im still unsure if that's going to be a bad thing or a good thing

 

[past panther]

Well I hope they get this right. If they don't there could be a lot of clubs that will close their doors or suddenly decide that they have to play in Div 3 or tread water by merging. You only have to look at the clearances each year from all the leagues to appreciate that players move around. Their reasons can vary from money, work, play with mates, need a change etc. Once this points system is brought in for all competitions then the players who play for $$$ will either settle down with one club and bide their time until a club can afford them, or shop themselves to clubs at a significant lower grade or they will just walk away from the game. What about players who want a change or a discontent at a club? They could be restricted from moving and may decide to give it away or stand down for a season. Even the top clubs in the Ammos will struggle with this system if it is brought in across the board. On the positive side it will force all clubs to focus on juniors. Unfortunately soccer and basketball has been working away in the background for the past decade, and a lot of clubs will struggle to attract juniors especially the 14-17 year olds and then try and retain the 20 & 21 y.o's who decide to give the game away.Soccer doesn't have a points system to worry about and there are quite a few players who make good coin playing suburban soccer. They had better get it right because they may not get a second chance to rectify the problem.

I think those in the business of building pergolas, might get busy. Harvey Norman supplying a few 80 inch LCD TV etc. the sale of brown paper bags might also benefit just as it does in the"Ammo's"