1st Ashes Test England v Australia June 16-20 1930hrs @ Edgbaston

[Jim Prideaux]

Finally a Pom with some perspective. And Boycott would certainly know a thing or 2 about not getting carried away with scoring fast!

That Geoffrey doesn’t like Bazball is unsurprising, that he’s the lone voice of reason is.

 

[Aussie in exile]

That Geoffrey doesn’t like Bazball is unsurprising, that he’s the lone voice of reason is.

I slightly digress, but along with Bill Lawry he was the most boring test batsmen i have ever seen, and selfish

 

[Pistol Night]

I slightly digress, but along with Bill Lawry he was the most boring test batsmen i have ever seen, and selfish

"The corpse with pads on"

 

[Joffaboy]

I slightly digress, but along with Bill Lawry he was the most boring test batsmen i have ever seen, and selfish

Tavare was as bad, but with no skill.

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[grumbleguts]

Ollie Robinson: We Were Surprised By How Unwilling Australia Were To Go Toe-To-Toe With Us

Ollie Robinson, in his first Wisden.com column, shares his views on the Edgbaston Test and becoming public enemy number one Down Under

wisden.com

My favourite part of this article was when Baz said "we played all the cricket." Because THAT right there destroys the whole bazball argument.

If you were beaten by a better side, then OK, bazball didn't fire today, but if you were defeated by a completely passive opponent, it's YOUR FAULT. It's bazball's fault.

Fact is that is just copium on the part of the Kiwi brit-saboteur. Because Australia played less cricket than England... true... but that is because we did less fielding.

 

[philreich]

Former England batter Boycott wrote in the Telegraph: “England have got carried away with Bazball and seem to think entertaining is more important than winning.

“But England supporters want one thing more than anything else – to win the Ashes. Scoring fast runs, whacking lots of fours and sixes is lovely. It is great. But only if England do not lose sight of the big prize which is to beat Australia.

“If at the end of the series Australia go home with the Ashes we will feel sick, regardless of how much we have been entertained.

“They are in danger of letting hubris be their downfall or, quoting William Shakespeare in Hamlet, being hoist by one’s own petard. They are going to defeat themselves. It would be sad if playing exciting cricket for a year is going to their heads.

Sir Geoffrey Boycott says England ‘have got carried away with Bazball’

The hosts are 1-0 down with four matches to play after being beaten by two wickets by Australia in a dramatic finale at Edgbaston on Tuesday.

www.independent.co.uk

Geoffrey Boycott - the voice of reason. Surely if he can see it, there must be others who support England, who can as well. That said, I hope they keep doing what they're doing for at least another 4 Tests, because it'll hopefully mean the Ashes are staying down under for another 4 years (they ain't beating us here).

 

[philreich]

I slightly digress, but along with Bill Lawry he was the most boring test batsmen i have ever seen, and selfish

I remember a banner at the MCG in the late 70's, which read, "WATCHING BOYCOTT IS LIKE GOING TO A FUNERAL."

 

[grumbleguts]

I remember a banner at the MCG in the late 70's, which read, "WATCHING BOYCOTT IS LIKE GOING TO A FUNERAL."

My favourite banner was after the Mark Waugh Matthew Elliot collision, that said "If you run and don't look, you're a bloody Elliot."

 

[Gough]

My favourite banner was after the Mark Waugh Matthew Elliot collision, that said "If you run and don't look, you're a bloody Elliot."

There was one here in the 80s when there was a bit of a story about Hooksey going to Victoria and it was 'Keep Vic Bait Off Our Hookes".

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

OH FFS

Ollie Robinson: 'Australia were unwilling to go toe-to-toe with us'

Fast bowler claims England made all the running at Edgbaston and will come harder at Lord's

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

OH FFS

Ollie Robinson: 'Australia were unwilling to go toe-to-toe with us'

Fast bowler claims England made all the running at Edgbaston and will come harder at Lord's

www.espncricinfo.com

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Brendan McCallum:

"If it wasn't for us, the Australians wouldn't have even had a chance to win."


LAAAWWWWWLLLLLLL
"If we didn't lose, they wouldn't have won"

 

[grumbleguts]

There was one here in the 80s when there was a bit of a story about Hooksey going to Victoria and it was 'Keep Vic Bait Off Our Hookes".

What a tragic story Hooksey was. 23 matches weren't nearly enough to show what he could do.

 

[philreich]

What a tragic story Hooksey was. 23 matches weren't nearly enough to show what he could do.

Hard to believe that next January marks 20 years since his passing.

 

[grumbleguts]

Hard to believe that next January marks 20 years since his passing.

Yep, I hope the guy who killed him gets sent a friendly reminder or two.

 

[Gough]

What a tragic story Hooksey was. 23 matches weren't nearly enough to show what he could do.

He didn't always help himself.

 

[JackOutback]

Tavare was as bad, but with no skill.

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But his son was a funny fvcker, so all is forgiven.

 

[Riviat]

Would you tell your team that you won despite you not actually winning?

If I was coaching an under 10s cricket team i would

 

[JackOutback]

If I was coaching an under 10s cricket team i would

At that age, every game is a draw and they don't question it.

 

[4Seasons]

Its an option and that's why greenie is so valuable and gives you heaps of options. I thought they underbowled him this test. He was ducking it back in with his 2nd spell when he got broad first innings. Bit of reverse. Also he can intimidate the lower order with his bouncer.. which we did not use for most of the test.

I would still use Starc to open with the new nut yes the duke can sometimes be different with its shine...6-10 starts to move etc but I still think you need to have that option up front with starc who has a remarkable ability to get a pole in his first couple of overs. Use him in short spells and tell him to bowl fast....2 bouncers every over and look at the stumps....that's how I would use him. Not long spells

I think this is one of the big advantages of Green.
You can play Starc and try to utilise his brilliance, but if he’s having a down day Green can cover his overs

 

[gtrxuone]

Was just reading that Jimmy Anderson has threatened to retire.
If he has to bowl on another flat track ,like Edgebaston.
English captain Ben Stokes makes no secret.That Bazball works better on flat wickets.

 

[Cold Sober]

Pat's batting saved his arse.
Boycott was a good commentator.
Ricky Brereton was a great cricketer.

 

[MinerBoy]

It really is like a cult

He should try winning. It feels even more like winning.


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[TennisPlayerAndy]

If I was coaching an under 10s cricket team i would

Hand out participation ribbons as well.

The earlier kids understand winning and losing the better.

 

[philreich]

He didn't always help himself.

Yeah but I was in the crowd when he smashed his ton off 34 balls in 1982.. Forget Bazball - I've never seen a ball hit harder before or since.

 

[Riviat]

Hand out participation ribbons as well.

The earlier kids understand winning and losing the better.

I think you've hit the nail on the head as to what the English are wanting