2015 Draft Discussion

[jackess]

Think it's going to come down to percentage for Picks 1 to 3 - Carlton to lose the last 6 games, Lions to beat Carlton, Suns to beat Lions for all of them to finish on 3 wins. Carlton clearly knew this and that explains the Hawks scoreline (that and the huge skill gap between the teams...)

We'll beat the Suns. Their midfield is Rischitelli, Hallahan and Bennell. We should really dominate out of the midfield given their missing Ablett, O'Meara, Swallow and Prestia.

I can't see us finishing last so we'll have pick 2 or 3 but probably most importantly we won't necessarily have pick 1 in the PSD.

A bit of a shame that the year we are playing truly awful, pathetic, uncompetitive footy; there happens to be two other teams in similar positions. Suns with injuries and Carlton with Malthouse.

 

[Crusha]

Darling, Walker, might be top tier now but never looked incredible as juniors.

Not so for Darling.
He was All Australian CHF at the U/18 Champs in 2009 (as an under-ager).
Laid low/had off field issues 2010 season that saw him slide to Eagles 2nd Pick [#26] ...... (some may say that was very convenient).

"Cringeworthy Note": we took Karnezis with Pick 25

 

[jackess]

Not so for Darling.
He was All Australian CHF at the U/18 Champs in 2009 (as an under-ager).
Laid low/had off field issues 2010 season that saw him slide to Eagles 2nd Pick [#26] ...... (some may say that was very convenient).

"Cringeworthy Note": we took Karnezis with Pick 25

"Cringeworthy Note": We took Justin Clarke in the rookie draft.

 

[Eons]

Not so for Darling.
He was All Australian CHF at the U/18 Champs in 2009 (as an under-ager).
Laid low/had off field issues 2010 season that saw him slide to Eagles 2nd Pick [#26] ...... (some may say that was very convenient).

"Cringeworthy Note": we took Karnezis with Pick 25

If I'm not mistaken, if it wasn't for his off field discretion's, Darling was being touted as a top 5 pick in his under 17 and draft year. Think in his under 17 year he was even being talked up as the number 1 pick.

 

[jackess]

Plus Darling is an undersized key forward. If he didn't have Kennedy getting most of the attention I don't think Darling would be all that dangerous.

 

[WA Lion]

If I'm not mistaken, if it wasn't for his off field discretion's, Darling was being touted as a top 5 pick in his under 17 and draft year. Think in his under 17 year he was even being talked up as the number 1 pick.

One of his off-field indiscretions actually involved him getting punched out so significantly that he suffered bruising to the brain. It was so significant that there was some doubt for a week or two whether he would be right to play again ever. Really bad hit.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

Reueben William is an interesting one. Had a great 18's carnival and named best for Qld 18's on the weekend. Exciting talent. If you take Keays & Hipwood early on does that give you any later picks with this new academy points rule?

 

[blueiris]

Reueben William is an interesting one. Had a great 18's carnival and named best for Qld 18's on the weekend. Exciting talent. If you take Keays & Hipwood early on does that give you any later picks with this new academy points rule?

It would definitely depend on where bids on Keays and Hipwood were and what picks we had

 

[WA Lion]

Reueben William is an interesting one. Had a great 18's carnival and named best for Qld 18's on the weekend. Exciting talent. If you take Keays & Hipwood early on does that give you any later picks with this new academy points rule?

If the bids on Keays and Hipwood are high enough, it wipes out our remaining draft, potentially to the extent that we could carry a deficit in to next year.

That is of course assuming that we choose to match a high bid on both of them. We could always pass on one if we don't value the player anywhere near as a high as the bid by another club is. Would like to think that the club will trade in an additional pick/get compo pick to get both though.

This is the 1st time our academy has produced 1st round talent, so would be unlikely we want to miss out on them, plus it will help in the future with our player retention problems.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

It would definitely depend on where bids on Keays and Hipwood were and what picks we had

With player retention being an issue up north, it would be a joke if you miss out on home grown talent that you've invested time into.

 

[Alan Smithee]

It would definitely depend on where bids on Keays and Hipwood were and what picks we had

I only saw the first half of the Lions v Suns reserves game at Metricon earlier this year but Reuben William was brilliant, bloddy brilliant in that half.

 

[blueiris]

I only saw the first half of the Lions v Suns reserves game at Metricon earlier this year but Reuben William was brilliant, bloddy brilliant in that half.

Totally agree I hope we have an extra late pick to pick him up

 

[scoman]

Don't we get to take blokes with our last picks if they are nominated after the 3rd round or something. Even if we have been downgraded to the last picks in the draft?

 

[dlanod]

Don't we get to take blokes with our last picks if they are nominated after the 3rd round or something. Even if we have been downgraded to the last picks in the draft?

Yes. After about pick 52 or so.

 

[chopperduck]

Yeah the point system is really only in place for the more top end talent. Back half of the draft we basically get to take them as freebies.

 

[Jas_epi421]

So hypothetical
Bris have #1 pick and if Weitering is the best player in the draft hands down
Do we pick Schache as we need a power forward or do we pick the best talent?

 

[Schache It Off]

So hypothetical
Bris have #1 pick and if Weitering is the best player in the draft hands down
Do we pick Schache as we need a power forward or do we pick the best talent?

Forward & he wouldn't mind heading up North to play for us. I wouldn't want to risk it with Weitering because he is linked to Liam Pickering....

I mean I dread we lose a Pick 1 to 'Homesickness' FML

 

[CarterS]

This is the 1st time our academy has produced 1st round talent, so would be unlikely we want to miss out on them, plus it will help in the future with our player retention problems.

Considering the problems we are having with player retention, if we do not draft two first round rated from our Academy then if you ask me our list manager should have serious questions to answer! Also keeping in mind that the club has said over and over that the want more locals on the list.

 

[Jas_epi421]

Forward & he wouldn't mind heading up North to play for us. I wouldn't want to risk it with Weitering because he is linked to Liam Pickering....

I mean I dread we lose a Pick 1 to 'Homesickness' FML

Surely a club cannot let a player manager change our draft movements

 

[jackess]

Surely a club cannot let a player manager change our draft movements

I think a club with as big an issue with retaining high draft picks as we are can definitely be put off by the manager. That being said if Schache is gone before our pick I'd be happy with Weitering.

 

[Milux]

Just read a little about Schache. Wouldnt it be great to get him. He said it would mean something extra to play for the club his dad did. I feel he would instantly buy in and by all reports is the gun forward we need. So let the tankathon continue and bring this kid home.

 

[Jas_epi421]

So I keep hearing about this Keays bloke from queensland. My questions are is he a A grade talent and does he fall under our academy selection?

 

[dlanod]

So I keep hearing about this Keays bloke from queensland. My questions are is he a A grade talent and does he fall under our academy selection?

A-/B+ depending on how you rate players, and yes, he's a member of our academy.

 

[Jas_epi421]

A-/B+ depending on how you rate players, and yes, he's a member of our academy.

Sorry i'm unsure of the changes to the bidding system. What would we have to use to get him?

 

[cotter101]

For what it's worth, I believe Keays is an A Grade talent. There's a lot to like about him.