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Such a shame he had that train wreck of a leg injury pre-draft - given his size now and what he seemed capable of ... could have been a heck of a player.Geez we dodged a bullet with not getting Ryan Burtonhe is trash.PLAYERCARDSTART3Ryan Burton
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and they have two more seasons to look forward to
and they have two more seasons to look forward to
thing is its a actually a s**t list now
other than rozzee, butters, JHF, bergman, AA its s**t.
when rioli starts to look like your best player you have issues
Take out Marshall. He is crapola.Players to build the list around.
Marshall, JHF, Butters, Rozee, Bergman, Jones
Players edging end of careers 29+ beginning of season 2024
Aliir, Dixon, Boak, Wines, Lycett, McKenzie, Clurey
B grade and below players
DBJ, Fantasia, Bonner, Burgoyne, Burton, Duursma, Evans, Farrell, Georgiadis, Hayes, Lord, McEntee, Mead, Narkle, Sinn, Teakle, Williams
Round the mark B+ A graders
SPP, Rioli, Finlayson
The rest are unknowns.
Basically remember 12 months ago when Rowie asked if which list you'd prefer Crows or Port as a new coach? Crows every day of the week. Port are destined to for a crows like rebuild and i dont think Ken will be remebered fondly by Port fans.
Jones doesn’t seem to do anything other than get in peoples way and bang it on the boot.Players to build the list around.
Marshall, JHF, Butters, Rozee, Bergman, Jones
Players edging end of careers 29+ beginning of season 2024
Aliir, Dixon, Boak, Wines, Lycett, McKenzie, Clurey
B grade and below players
DBJ, Fantasia, Bonner, Burgoyne, Burton, Duursma, Evans, Farrell, Georgiadis, Hayes, Lord, McEntee, Mead, Narkle, Sinn, Teakle, Williams
Round the mark B+ A graders
SPP, Rioli, Finlayson
The rest are unknowns.
Basically remember 12 months ago when Rowie asked if which list you'd prefer Crows or Port as a new coach? Crows every day of the week. Port are destined to for a crows like rebuild and i dont think Ken will be remebered fondly by Port fans.
Giants fans should have taken their tennis racquets to wave!
and they have two more seasons to look forward to
thing is its a actually a s**t list now
other than rozzee, butters, JHF, bergman, AA its s**t.
when rioli starts to look like your best player you have issues
They could but on paper at least their list will be better next year. Their weakness is in defence .They will get those 2 defenders from Geelong and ess As well as sweet from the dogs. I think he will be a very good ruckmanThis year was as good as powaa could play. I expect them to drop off next year and struggle to make the 8.
They make it sound it likes its bad thing to happen. lol.
I reckon top 4 next year will be Pies, Lions, Crows and Gws. Crows just need to decrease our score against.They could but on paper at least their list will be better next year. Their weakness is in defence .They will get those 2 defenders from Geelong and ess As well as sweet from the dogs. I think he will be a very good ruckman
Also will get georgiadies back so like a new recruit. Wines will actually have a preseason this time too. Bad news for you I expect them to be top 4 again good news ken is still coach so a similar result to this year is more likely than them missing the finals.
They could but on paper at least their list will be better next year. Their weakness is in defence .They will get those 2 defenders from Geelong and ess As well as sweet from the dogs. I think he will be a very good ruckman
Also will get georgiadies back so like a new recruit. Wines will actually have a preseason this time too. Bad news for you I expect them to be top 4 again good news ken is still coach so a similar result to this year is more likely than them missing the finals.
Players to build the list around.
Marshall, JHF, Butters, Rozee, Bergman, Jones
Players edging end of careers 29+ beginning of season 2024
Aliir, Dixon, Boak, Wines, Lycett, McKenzie, Clurey
B grade and below players
DBJ, Fantasia, Bonner, Burgoyne, Burton, Duursma, Evans, Farrell, Georgiadis, Hayes, Lord, McEntee, Mead, Narkle, Sinn, Teakle, Williams
Round the mark B+ A graders
SPP, Rioli, Finlayson
The rest are unknowns.
Basically remember 12 months ago when Rowie asked if which list you'd prefer Crows or Port as a new coach? Crows every day of the week. Port are destined to for a crows like rebuild and i dont think Ken will be remebered fondly by Port fans.
You make some valid points. But like yourselves their home record in the minor round against interstate sides was excellent. They should be able to win most of their home games They also play well in Victoria. So I think they will hold their ground around the top 4 or 5I like your optimism.
Forward line
Georgiadis was dropped for form even before he was injured. Will only replace a lame Dixon in the side anyway. They have two good forwards but where is the rest? Rioli is a clever player but unreliable. Great in some games, poor in others. SPP I feel is a better midfielder whose forced to play in the forward line. But yes, there is some talent overall.
Ruckman? Sweet will just be another younger Lycett. Nothing wrong with this selection though.
The backline is a disaster area and ZT from Essendon and Ratugolea from Geelong will only replace Jonas and McKenzie. Neither are stars and neither will make an impact. They are just replacements.
Im not sure you can expect the midfield to get better, it was already arguably AFL's best this year, even as JHF gets more experience. But his style is probably not going to change. What we see now is what we will see next year. Young midfields have been hyped up for years as wait until they get experienced and nothing ever really changes. For as dominating Ports midfield was, I don't see an X factor type like Martin, Dangerfield or Cripps who can almost lift the team up themselves. Wines arguably was that player but JHF certainly isn't. Butters isnt either.
Overall I suspect you will find they will finish 6-8 next year. Crows will over take them. St Kilda probably will. GWS, Carlton. I don't see any reason as to why Collingwood wont come again. Brisbane almost certainly will be around the mark next year. Melbourne as well. So the question is will they win enough games to be ahead of Brisbane, Collingwood, Adelaide, Carlton, GWS, Melbourne. Other teams that may come Geelong, Sydney, Fremantle. Even Gold Coast could make a surge next year.
it is a s**t list if butters goes down they are near the bottom of the ladderNot really. You aren't ever going to have a s**t list with a midfield like that. It really does a couple of players to really tie it all together though, like an elite KPF or gun CHB to pair with Aliir Aliir.
Mind you, for Port that's as much a bad thing then good, seeing they really need a year where s**t hits the fan to force out Hinkley, Koch and co. Which are the main things holding them back.
After all, that extra effort, desire and toughness that separates a premier/big contender from the also rans is a coaching thing.
it is a s**t list if butters goes down they are near the bottom of the ladder
I like your optimism.
Forward line
Georgiadis was dropped for form even before he was injured. Will only replace a lame Dixon in the side anyway. They have two good forwards but where is the rest? Rioli is a clever player but unreliable. Great in some games, poor in others. SPP I feel is a better midfielder whose forced to play in the forward line. But yes, there is some talent overall.
Ruckman? Sweet will just be another younger Lycett. Nothing wrong with this selection though.
The backline is a disaster area and ZT from Essendon and Ratugolea from Geelong will only replace Jonas and McKenzie. Neither are stars and neither will make an impact. They are just replacements.
Im not sure you can expect the midfield to get better, it was already arguably AFL's best this year, even as JHF gets more experience. But his style is probably not going to change. What we see now is what we will see next year. Young midfields have been hyped up for years as wait until they get experienced and nothing ever really changes. For as dominating Ports midfield was, I don't see an X factor type like Martin, Dangerfield or Cripps who can almost lift the team up themselves. Wines arguably was that player but JHF certainly isn't. Butters isnt either.
Overall I suspect you will find they will finish 6-8 next year. Crows will over take them. St Kilda probably will. GWS, Carlton. I don't see any reason as to why Collingwood wont come again. Brisbane almost certainly will be around the mark next year. Melbourne as well. So the question is will they win enough games to be ahead of Brisbane, Collingwood, Adelaide, Carlton, GWS, Melbourne. Other teams that may come Geelong, Sydney, Fremantle. Even Gold Coast could make a surge next year.