Australia v West Indies Series Discussion

[The_Reaper]

Well the first and only tour match starts on Wednesday.

And yes this isn't going to be a great series. The West Indian team isn't much chop. Chris Gayle hasn't played tests in a while, Chanderpaul is in his 40s, Narine is a chucker, Shillingford has disappeared and Dwayne Bravo retired years ago.

They have a 24 Captain in Holder who has played all of 10 tests with a 22 year old Kraigg Brathwaite as his vice captain. Marlon Samuels and Denesh Ramdin provide the 'wise and experienced' support.

Holder, Brathwaite and Blackwood are pretty good young talents and Darren Bravo is a good player.
Their probably attack of Roach, Taylor, Gabriel, Holder and Bishoo isn't bad but given how flat the wickets are going to be to prop up their batting it's going to be hard for them to do much.

From an Australian point of view it will be great to see James Pattinson back in action and Lyon is set to play his 50th test.

But before all the inevitable complaints about why didn't New Zealand get the Boxing Day and New Years Tests - things were set a few years ago.
Yes the actual dates were only announced earlier this year and yes New Zealand apparently would love to play Boxing Day in Melbourne.
But Cricket Australia organises tours years in advance. We were set to tour Bangladesh earlier this month and then host New Zealand and the West Indies this summer, host India for an ODI series this January and then tour New Zealand.
Changing the dates around this team of year last minute basically *s over the scheduling of pretty much every test nation and believe it or not, but CA doesn't have that kind of authority.

Fixtures

#   Date      Type     Opponents        City
1.  Dec  2-5  Tour     CA XI            Brisbane
2.  Dec 10-14 Test     Australia        Hobart
3.  Dec 26-30 Test     Australia        Melbourne
4.  Jan  3-7  Test     Australia        Sydney

West Indian Squad

West Indies Test Squad
Captain: Jason Holder
Vice Captain: Kraigg Brathwaite

#  Player             Age Bat Bwl Mat  Runs  HS  Ave   100 50  Wkts  BBI   BBM    Ave   5m 10i  Ct St
1. D Bishoo           30  LHB LS   15   244  30  15.25   0  0    55  6/80  8/152  38.05  2   0   9  0
2. J Blackwood        24  RHB OS   12   742 112* 39.05   1  6     2  2/14  2/65   66.00  0   0  15  0
3. CR Brathwaite      27  RHB RFM  --   ---  --  --.--   -  -     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   -  -
4. KC Brathwaite      22  RHB OS   24  1457 212  33.11   4  6     7  6/29  6/29   23.71  1   0   9  0
5. DM Bravo           26  LHB RMF  39  2741 218  40.91   6 13     0  -/--  -/--   --.--  0   0  40  0
6. R Chandrika        26  RHB OS    1     0   0   0.00   0  0     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   0  0
7. SO Dowrich+        24  RHB ---   2   102  70  25.50   0  1     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   0  0
8. ST Gabriel         27  RHB RFM  15    53  20*  4.41   0  0    33  3/10  4/55   37.03  0   0   9  0
9. JO Holder          24  RHB RMF  10   445 103* 29.66   1  2    19  3/15  5/49   33.31  0   0   9  0
10.SD Hope+           22  RHB ---   5   162  36  16.20   0  0     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   2  0
11.D Ramdin+          30  RHB ---  71  2765 166  25.84   4 13     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   - 202 11
12.KAJ Roach          27  RHB RF   34   427  41   9.70   0  0   122  6/48 10/146  28.21  6   1   9  0
13.MN Samuels         34  RHB OS   61  3587 260  34.82   7 22    41  4/13  6/50   59.63  0   0  26  0
14.JE Taylor          31  RHB RF   43   816 106  13.37   1  1   128  6/47  9/95   32.99  4   0   8  0
15.JA Warrican        23  RHB SLA   1    21  20* 21.00   0  0     6  4/67  6/129  21.50  0   0   1  0

Probable Australians

Australian 
Captain: Steve Smith
Vice Captain: David Warner

#  Player             Age Bat Bwl Mat  Runs  HS  Ave   100 50  Wkts  BBI   BBM    Ave   5m 10i  Ct St
1. JM Bird            28  RHB RFM   3     7   6*  7.00   0  0    13  4/41  7/117  23.30  0   0   1  0
2. JA Burns           26  RHB RM    5   411 129  41.10   1  3     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   4  0
3. NM Coulter-Nile    28  RHB RF    -     -  --  --.--   -  -     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   -  -
4. JP Faulkner        25  RHB LFM   1    45  23  22.50   0  0     6  4/51  6/98   16.33  0   0   0  0
5. JR Hazlewood       24  LHB RFM  12   154  39  25.66   0  0    53  6/70  9/136  24.16  3   0   5  0
6. UT Khawaja         28  LHB RM   11   681 174  40.05   2  2     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -   5  0
7. NM Lyon            28  RHB OS   49   492  40* 15.37   0  0   172  7/94 12/286  34.02  7   1  22  0
8. MR Marsh           24  RHB RM   10   379  87  23.68   0  1    16  3/30  5/86   32.68  0   0   5  0
9. SE Marsh           32  LHB SLA  16   912 148  32.57   2  4     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -  12  0
10.PM Nevill+         30  RHB ---   7   273  66  27.30   0  2     -  -/--  -/--   --.--  -   -  28  1
11.SNJ O'Keefe        30  RHB SLA   1     6   6   6.00   0  0     4  2/107 4/219  54.75  0   0   0  0
12.JL Pattinson       25  LHB RFM  13   331  42  30.09   0  0    51  5/27  8/105  27.07  3   0   1  0
13.PM Siddle          31  RHB RFM  58   983  51  14.04   0  2   200  6/54  9/104  30.02  8   0  16  0
14.SPD Smith*         26  RHB LS   36  3376 215  55.34  12 13    16  3/18  4/83   50.68  0   0  32  0
15.AC Voges           36  RHB SLA  10   653 130* 50.58   2  3     0  -/--  -/--   --.--  0   0   9  0
16.DA Warner          29  LHB LS   46  4241 253  50.48  15 19     4  2/45  2/45   63.50  0   0  34  0

 

[Van_Dyke]

People will just ignore that and keep bitching. What they probably don't realise, is that NZ were a rabble around the time the schedule would have been made- I.e. NZ first etc.

 

[YES! YES! YES!]

They should play the team physio in the first XI for this series.

Give the Windies a fair chance.

 

[Redline]

The best thing that could happen to World Cricket would be a strong West Indies side. As poor as they are, they are still my favorite team to watch.

 

[1990crow]

Giving Boland, NCN, S.Marsh and M.Marsh games? Must not want us to dominate them too much.

 

[rezagun]

The west indies team that is touring this summer would have to be their weakest ever. Apart from samuels and bravo they have no genuine top end talent. Holder is a decent player but should have never been made captain. They have no genuine number 5,6 batsmen. Their bowling lineup is half decent but i feel it will be a long summer for them.
Their team should look like this and wouldve given australia a challenge:

Gayle
Brathwaite
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Dwayne Bravo
Pollard
Ramdin
Holder
Taylor
Roach
Narine

 

[ManWithNoName]

Any good movies coming out?

 

[The_Reaper]

The west indies team that is touring this summer would have to be their weakest ever. Apart from samuels and bravo they have no genuine top end talent. Holder is a decent player but should have never been made captain. They have no genuine number 5,6 batsmen. Their bowling lineup is half decent but i feel it will be a long summer for them.
Their team should look like this and wouldve given australia a challenge:

Gayle
Brathwaite
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Dwayne Bravo
Pollard
Ramdin
Holder
Taylor
Roach
Narine

Hwat have pollard and narine done at test level?

 

[rezagun]

Hwat have pollard and narine done at test level?

Both have had little exposure to test cricket because of their debacle of a cricket board. They are without doubt in their best 15 players. Its a shame they havent put their best team on the park for a number of years. This has coincided with their decline in world cricket.
Who would you rather bowl to you if you were peter siddle.. keiron pollard or dowrich?
Unfortunately narine has been tainted with his action but is one of the hardest spinners to pick in the short form of the game where he excels. You could replace him with benn who has the experience. Bringing out an inexperienced team to australia is like a lamb to the slaughter.

 

[The_Reaper]

Both have had little exposure to test cricket because of their debacle of a cricket board. They are without doubt in their best 15 players. Its a shame they havent put their best team on the park for a number of years. This has coincided with their decline in world cricket.
Who would you rather bowl to you if you were peter siddle.. keiron pollard or dowrich?
Unfortunately narine has been tainted with his action but is one of the hardest spinners to pick in the short form of the game where he excels. You could replace him with benn who has the experience. Bringing out an inexperienced team to australia is like a lamb to the slaughter.

Pollard hasn't played test cricket because he's an agricultural hack.

Narine because 1) He's a chucker and 2) he's not hard to play once you don't have to score at 10 an over

 

[Bucking Beads]

Care factor in this series is at an all time low.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Can't wait for the commentators to mention Chris Gayle not playing a million times.

Actually since he's playing in the BBL on a rival network they might restrain themselves.

 

[L_W_P]

Any good movies coming out?

Creed looks good.

Apparently there is another Star Wars film coming soon as well... That's what I've heard anyway.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Creed looks good.

Apparently there is another Star Wars film coming soon as well... That's what I've heard anyway.

Creed is ******* sick

 

[t_94]

One player I'm looking forward to seeing for the West Indies is Devendra Bishoo. Can bowl.

 

[Cotchin 9]

Dwayne Bravo and Pollard have said all along they don't want to be considered for Test selection. Simple, really.

 

[The_Reaper]

Dwayne Bravo retired years ago.
Dan Vettori has played test cricket more recently than Chris Gayle an Vettori has played like 1 test since 2012.
Chanderpaul is in his 40s.

We'd like to think otherwise but sadly this is the best the Windies have got

 

[Admiral Byng]

I'm predicting that Warnie's old mate F U Marlon will have a blinder this series.

 

[The 747]

Their bowling will cause some problems, but we will nullify that by serving up three solid highways.

Their batting is awful and has no heart. They will be lucky to win three sessions.

 

[JackOutback]

Any good movies coming out?

Something something dark side.

 

[bird_man]

I'm predicting that Warnie's old mate F U Marlon will have a blinder this series.

I hope so, hopefully we can see a bit of fight.

 

[Stopher]

Jason Holder to have a good series, I'm thinking.

 

[Admiral Byng]

I hope so, hopefully we can see a bit of fight.

He is a scary man if he gets a hold of the opposition.

 

[Oaktree]

Care factor in this series is at an all time low.

At one time, the Frank Worrell trophy had greater importance to Aussies than the Ashes.

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[frankrizzo]

That waugh brothers partnership in 95 when we finally knew we had broken them was my favorite cricket memory from when i was young, took away the awful pain from adelaide 93.