Australia World Cup Squad 2015

[bombersfan4000]

white isnt a bowler. one of the biggest things holding him back in playing for australia is that for so long he was picked as a bowling all rounder when he didnt even bowl in the domestic comp. not that he shouldnt be in the team, he has been our best odi batter domestically for the last 2 years and averages about 35, which for the lols is only 2 less than englands greatest ever odi batter ian bell.

if we want a spinner we need to choose someone as a spinner. and i dont mean a dart slinging spud like doherty or haurits, an actual spinner like zampa, boyce, ahmwed or muirhead.

i spat my beer out in a fit of laughter when i heard M Wagh say Hauritz name the other nite! cant believe he is still going around

 

[theyellowsash]

Ahmed or Muirhead would be horrible selection

why exactly? muirhead performed well in the international t20s he played and ahmed is the highest wicket taking spinner in the current shield season (according to whoever was commentating the last renegades game). i know they are victorian but their performances stand up against the other two at least.

 

[The_Reaper]

why exactly? muirhead performed well in the international t20s he played and ahmed is the highest wicket taking spinner in the current shield season (according to whoever was commentating the last renegades game). i know they are victorian but their performances stand up against the other two at least.

have you seen Muirhead in the past year?

And Ahmed is the next Bryce McGain. Watch him bowl.

Anyone who can play spin- so not Australian batsmen- can play him.

 

[Phone]

Ahmed and Lyon and probably Beer and probably more spinners absolutely should have got more OD games for Aus since 2012. They screwed up the spinner thing so badly and from so long out. It's actually pretty incredible

Australian OD spinners since 2012: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling

2 important things

1) Those are not good stats from Doherty. They are, at best, very average. There was no just reason for him to get game after game after game ahead of guys who, let's face it, don't exactly have a high bar to jump over. And which Lyon jumped over in his brief opportunities
2) More full time spinners have played test cricket for Aus in that time than full time spinners have played OD cricket for Australia. (Lyon, Doherty, Beer, Agar & O'keefe v Doherty, Lyon, Ahmed). That is absolutely astonishing.

they ****ed it up so badly. and now they're relying on Glenn Maxwell to save everything.

 

[bombersfan4000]

Ahmed and Lyon and probably Beer and probably more spinners absolutely should have got more OD games for Aus since 2012. They screwed up the spinner thing so badly and from so long out. It's actually pretty incredible

Australian OD spinners since 2012: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;spanmin1=05 Jan 2012;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling

2 important things

1) Those are not good stats from Doherty. They are, at best, very average. There was no just reason for him to get game after game after game ahead of guys who, let's face it, don't exactly have a high bar to jump over. And which Lyon jumped over in his brief opportunities
2) More full time spinners have played test cricket for Aus in that time than full time spinners have played OD cricket for Australia. (Lyon, Doherty, Beer, Agar & O'keefe v Doherty, Lyon, Ahmed). That is absolutely astonishing.

they stuffed it up so badly. and now they're relying on Glenn Maxwell to save everything.

i wouldn't say they are totally relying on maxwell as they still do play other spinners on most occasions, Maxwell is picked in the side for other abilities than just his bowling, his fielding & batting

 

[western royboy]

why exactly? muirhead performed well in the international t20s he played and ahmed is the highest wicket taking spinner in the current shield season (according to whoever was commentating the last renegades game). i know they are victorian but their performances stand up against the other two at least.

Muirhead has the yips - he was traded by the STARS for Beer before the tournament started - it's that bad. Ahmed has got better this year but he's 33 and gets belted by higher class players - there are a lot of tailenders in his victims.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Muirhead has the yips - he was traded by the STARS for Beer before the tournament started - it's that bad. Ahmed has got better this year but he's 33 and gets belted by higher class players - there are a lot of tailenders in his victims.

His wickets for the tournament - Birt, Bailey, Maxwell, Forrest, Head.

Did not take a single tail-end wicket all Big Bash.

 

[The_Reaper]

His wickets for the tournament - Birt, Bailey, Maxwell, Forrest, Head.

Did not take a single tail-end wicket all Big Bash.

Yeah but he was getting talked up based on his sheffield shield

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Yeah but he was getting talked up based on his sheffield shield

Oh, I should read things more thoroughly.

Thanks, Noobzor.

 

[western royboy]

His wickets for the tournament - Birt, Bailey, Maxwell, Forrest, Head.

Did not take a single tail-end wicket all Big Bash.

Sheffield Shield

 

[Kram]

white isnt a bowler. one of the biggest things holding him back in playing for australia is that for so long he was picked as a bowling all rounder when he didnt even bowl in the domestic comp. not that he shouldnt be in the team, he has been our best odi batter domestically for the last 2 years and averages about 35, which for the lols is only 2 less than englands greatest ever odi batter ian bell.

if we want a spinner we need to choose someone as a spinner. and i dont mean a dart slinging spud like doherty or haurits, an actual spinner like zampa, boyce, ahmwed or muirhead.

I was just joking around, I'd give bloody finch a bowl ahead of White.

 

[Kram]

have you seen Muirhead in the past year?

And Ahmed is the next Bryce McGain. Watch him bowl.

Anyone who can play spin- so not Australian batsmen- can play him.

I'd love to see Ahmed bowl to ab devilliers just for the lols.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd love to see Ahmed bowl to ab devilliers just for the lols.

Bryce McGain hopes too, his worst test bowling would be beaten!

 

[PaddyO]

I must be the only one who thinks Doherty is a pretty good ODI bowler?

I'd prefer Lyon just play long form stuff rather than making him bowl darts in ODIs.

 

[Phone]

You don't have to bowl darts in OD cricket

 

[PaddyO]

You don't have to bowl darts in OD cricket

You pretty much do if you're a non chucking offspinner though.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

What's Nathan Lyon like in ODI? Unproven, poor, too attacking? Seems to do ok in bbl, why isn't he given a shot

I would hjave liked him to get a couple of ODIs befre the squad announcement, but timing made that impossible. It wa simperative he be kept away from the short form stuff before the Test series. He bowls defensively enough without going in to a Test series having played games where he had to bowl defensively.

He just didnt get a chance to push for a spot. I think he could be as good a 50 over spinner as we have. Sadly, Doherty is probably the next best for that format. Usually serviceable, but prone to a boundary ball and not a wicket taker. But in Australia conditions, "usually serviceable" is about all you get out of a spinner apart from the very top echelon of internationals.

 

[bird_man]

It's a pretty good read looking back at all the negative posters that didn't give us a chance.

Apparently our bowling was too weak, our batting was poor and we could not win without a front line spinner.

 

[bird_man]

Worst ODI side we have sent in a long time. Openers are awful, death bowling is awful, wicket keeping is awful and bar Watson the Allrounders are bad as all rounders (Marsh and Faulkner are good at batting.. thats it)

Gee, the rest of the world must just be... Awful.

 

[footyfan1978]

Pace troubles batsmen. There is a line though, you don't want to be bowling 145kmph gun barrel straight, but you don't want to be bowling 130kmph at best either. Halewood type in between is perfect.

So does swing and seam movement. If you have both like Steyn then you are the best, but Johnson only has one.. I'd honestly like to see some of the "slower" guys given a game to see how they do, like Sandhu, unfortunately Boof and his dipshits are stubborn and stupid, hence picking Maxwell.

Classic armchair expert stufff

We would be where England is if the supposed dipshits were not picking the side.

 

[footyfan1978]

Anyone who doesnt have Maxwell in their side is kidding themselves. Has to play, and will.

Maxwell is not a certain selection in the best XI.

He goes off one in four innings at best.

Need someone more reliable than that.

Haddin's been in horrible form.

He should be moved on.

Thank you for people like Mark Waugh and Rod Marsh

 

[BluesMan]

Thank you for people like Mark Waugh and Rod Marsh

Are you saying what I said was wrong?

 

[footyfan1978]

Are you saying what I said was wrong?

lol
Your comments were there for contrast of an example of a sane person versus not so from others

 

[BluesMan]

lol
Your comments were there for contrast of an example of a sane person versus not so from others

Ah, Thought you may of misread my quote... Good to get some recognition

 

[Sweet Jesus]

We would be where England is if the supposed dipshits were not picking the side.

Would Chris Lynn and Cameron Boyce have made the WC squad? Would Josh Hazlewood have been overlooked?