LukeParkerno1
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At least Boyce turns the ball off the straight. Leggies will always create chances especially on the last day. That is Lyon's number 1 criticism- a spinner should be taking 4+ wickets in the 2nd dig, he doesn't.
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At least Boyce turns the ball off the straight. Leggies will always create chances especially on the last day. That is Lyon's number 1 criticism- a spinner should be taking 4+ wickets in the 2nd dig, he doesn't.
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Fantastic win from the Kiwis in incredibly trying circumstances. Fitting send-off for Vettori if he does in fact retire from tests after this.
Great to see Craig do well too. This NZ team is extremely likeable.
Great to see Craig do well too. This NZ team is extremely likeable.
well done kiwis. early days but they may have finally shored up an opening partnership after years failure, and removed middle order hacks like fulton.
still a big fan of southee. checked out his amazing debut, had NZ's fastest test 50 after not scoring from his first 10 balls... madness. on track to become crickets most prolific 6 hitter. solid opening bowling partnership too.
still a big fan of southee. checked out his amazing debut, had NZ's fastest test 50 after not scoring from his first 10 balls... madness. on track to become crickets most prolific 6 hitter. solid opening bowling partnership too.
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great memory flashback!!!
remember that one now. was epic. most of his runs with chris martin, and it took him about 50 balls to reach as many runs as martin had in about 50 tests.
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Agree about Southee becoming the leading six-hitter in Tests. 52 sixes in 37 Tests, and he turns 26 in two weeks. Gayle will probably eclipse Gilchrist on the South Africa tour this month, but he doesn't have long to go. NZ don't play as many Tests as the Big Four, but if he plays for another 6-7 years, another 50 Tests maybe, he's going to piss it in.
One-day squad named, 2 T20Is and 5 ODIs. McCullum, Southee and Boult being rested for the home summer that kicks off on Boxing Day. Williamson to captain.
Funnily enough, with half a dozen players playing for home ODI and World Cup places here, the biggest selection headache for the WC remains Jesse Ryder's availability. Especially now that his bowling has come on leaps and bounds. Devcich, Milne and Henry are very little chance of being at the WC.
One-day squad named, 2 T20Is and 5 ODIs. McCullum, Southee and Boult being rested for the home summer that kicks off on Boxing Day. Williamson to captain.
Funnily enough, with half a dozen players playing for home ODI and World Cup places here, the biggest selection headache for the WC remains Jesse Ryder's availability. Especially now that his bowling has come on leaps and bounds. Devcich, Milne and Henry are very little chance of being at the WC.
New Zealand with the addition of Ryder would be a huge chance to make a WC semi-final, at worst.
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Congrats to the Kiwis: that was an outstanding performance in incredibly tough circumstances. I reckon they'll wipe the floor with Sri Lanka.
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You are so right bombers. 7/94 in an innings against a subcontinent team in the subcontinent just shows how much better Craig is. Nathan Lyon could never do tha...oh wait
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/engine/match/598815.html
LukeParkerno1
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Want me to bring up Lyons last test series against the same Craig ran through? He is just a very pedestrian off spinner. The quicker we get Boyce in the better
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You've seen a lot of Boyce in the Shield, I'm assuming? Because I know no one from BigFooty would ever see someone for the first time in a T20 and then want them catapulted into the Test side...
LukeParkerno1
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I have always maintained that Boyce is 12 months away. We can deal with an average off spinner until then, but he is exactly that, average. I don't care which leg spinner we play, just play one of them. An off spinner that rarely turns the ball won't be effective.
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There's a word on our board for this type of comment... DQ
It means drama queen.
Seriously did Lyon run over your cat or something, you're very harsh on him.
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So one test series defines a career does it. Talk about cherry picking to suit an argument.
So when are Australia scheduled to play tests against New Zealand next?
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Next year.
Is that in NZ?
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Nope here. Adelaide is apparently going to host the first day/night match.
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Sure, it's great that Craig took 10 wickets, but he also went for 4.21 runs an over. Jason Krejza-esque (took 12 wickets while going for 4.78 an over on debut against India back in 2008).
LukeParkerno1
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It isn't just 1 test series though- he doesn't get 4th innings wickets
After a couple of really disappointing performances against South Africa it will be interesting to see how the Kiwis shape up in the ODI's. Resting Southee and Boult so it will be a good chance for guys like McCleneghan, Henry and Milne (ran through the Irish in a warm up game yesterday) to prove their credentials. All three have done some impressive things so far, but as third wheel.
McCullum also rested. Not really sure how he'd fit into the World Cup squad, but I can't help but feel happy for Dean Brownlie and hope he at least puts his name up there.
McCullum also rested. Not really sure how he'd fit into the World Cup squad, but I can't help but feel happy for Dean Brownlie and hope he at least puts his name up there.
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His average in the 4th innings is actually lower than his overall average
LukeParkerno1
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Which is still average. Most spinners have a number of 5 fors in the 2nd innings
So why do you rate sodhi and craig then?
sodhi has no 5 wicket hauls in any innings of a test.
craig has just the one 5 for(last match) but that was in the first dig.
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Since Lyon made his debut in 2011, the only other spin bowlers in world cricket to take more wickets than him have been Herath and Saeed Ajmal
Not sure if thats what i'd call average
Sure he's no Shane Warne, but he's the best we have
Craig and Sodhi have averages of 41 and 50 respectivly
